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The are plenty of Russia-excusing dipshits that don't believe half of Europe has rights and ought to be good little slaves to Russia for in publications as obscure as NY Times.
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fishmech posted:Sorry you were apparently blind and deaf when the war actually happened?
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The NYT has literally run editorials by Vladimir Putin before. Bashar al-Assad appeared in an interview on American public television.
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Loga Mira- I hope you understand that not all Americans think that way. There's a lot of people in the West who don't have a colonial and imperialist mentality towards other countries. It's not the fault of the regular working American. Think about it from our perspective- you have a wide array of different media sources all claiming to be objective and unbiased pushing the same narrative and the same agenda. Unless you have really good critical thinking skills, it's almost inevitable that you'll be sucked into the disinformation and distortion. Most people are too busy with their work and their family to spend time doing research and figuring out what the gently caress is actually happening in the rest of the world. Bloodshit fucked around with this message at 18:57 on May 18, 2016 |
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May 18, 2016 18:52
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Bloodshit posted:Loga Mira- I hope you understand that not all Americans think that way. There's a lot of people in the West who don't have a colonial and imperialist mentality towards other countries. Can you rewrite this in non-"Frankenstein Gangster Computer God" syntax? Thanks.
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How insecure are the people of the Great Mother Russia if they consider free expression of their country's faults an act of imperialism (while invading countries is not, apparently)
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fishmech posted:Can you rewrite this in non-"Frankenstein Gangster Computer God" syntax? Thanks. Is that a Chomsky joke?
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OddObserver posted:Is that a Chomsky joke?
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I think I've just gained a little insight as to how seemingly-ordinary dudes get mad and go join ISIS. Please banned guy do not go join ISIS.
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If anything, he'll stalk Ukraine and shoot imaginary Nazis.
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Flesh Forge posted:I think I've just gained a little insight as to how seemingly-ordinary dudes get mad and go join ISIS. Please banned guy do not go join ISIS. Don't listen to this guy, embrace your destiny and become the Eastern European Caro.
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I literally keep a list of each Negro the US has lynched in my bookmarks bar oh gently caress someone already made that joke arghhh!
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Flesh Forge posted:I think I've just gained a little insight as to how seemingly-ordinary dudes get mad and go join ISIS. Please banned guy do not go join ISIS. Does the Assad regime take foreign recruits?
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StandardVC10 posted:Does the Assad regime take foreign recruits? Does the Assad regime have anyone non-foreign fighting for them these days?
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OddObserver posted:Does the Assad regime have anyone non-foreign fighting for them these days? loga mira posted:hey now
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Bloodshit posted:Think about it from our perspective- you have a wide array of different media sources all claiming to be objective and unbiased pushing the same narrative and the same agenda. Unless you have really good critical thinking skills, it's almost inevitable that you'll be sucked into the disinformation and distortion. Most people are too busy with their work and their family to spend time doing research and figuring out what the gently caress is actually happening in the rest of the world. The average person in an English-speaking country has it pretty freaken good wrt multiple competing information sources, it's not like a lot of places where a pensioner without internet access might only get news from state-owned TV broadcasts. Also, there's a whole lot more English-language internet media out there compared to other languages I don't know if you're arguing in good faith or not but America's media landscape is extremely diverse compared to most of the world. It's true that a lot of Americans choose to get their news from lovely sources but that's true anyplace where you have a big media marketplace
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A Polish former MP for the Self Defense party and founder of the pro-Russian political party "Change" has been arrested for spying for Russia. He is a proponent of panslavism is and was one of the "independent" international observers of the Crimea referendum. This guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mateusz_Piskorski edit: also a Russian bus carrying military officers plunged off a cliff in South Ossetia killing six and injuring at least sixteen others. A Pale Horse fucked around with this message at 14:53 on May 19, 2016 |
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May 19, 2016 14:49
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I am honestly skeptical about anybody being arrested for espionage under the current paranoid government.
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Bashar al-Assad has got to have the highest kill count of any optometrist in history. And that's counting 18th century doctors!
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Palpek posted:I am honestly skeptical about anybody being arrested for espionage under the current paranoid government. I'm also skeptical that those Russian soldiers really died in a bus accident.
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I dont know if anyone has posted this yet, but the Navy has released more footage of the Russian SU-24s flying over the USS Cook from last month. https://theaviationist.com/2016/05/...the-baltic-sea/ Apparently the Russians flew a helicopter insanely close to the ship as well. Man I dont know how those sailors felt about it but I think if the US was buzzing a russian ship our planes would have definitely got shot down.
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Young Freud posted:I'm also skeptical that those Russian soldiers really died in a bus accident. Tbh it's kind of realistic if you know what those roads in Caucasus Mountains look like.
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Isn't South Ossetia pretty safe/friendly too? I would be skeptical of any "bus accidents" in Syria, but don't see a reason to get all  over this.
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So remember how PiS cut off funding to an organization helping women victims of domestic violence, well now they've also decided to cut off funding to an NGO called Nobody's Children (Dzieci Niczyje) which has been helping children victims of abuse and domestic violence for the past 21 years. Their justification is that it doesn't provide comprehensive services to all victims of crime (only children) which was also their justification for cutting off aid to the women's abuse charity. They're getting into mustache twirling levels of evil and its frankly gross. How do you call yourself a Catholic and cut off funding for abused children? edit: haha, I read a little more about it and turns out the NGO was attacked last year by right wing media for promoting sexual education and interfering with families. Now it makes sense. 
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Charliegrs posted:I dont know if anyone has posted this yet, but the Navy has released more footage of the Russian SU-24s flying over the USS Cook from last month. Well, I'd assume keeping your calm would be one of the chief objectives of the Navy training, given the past decades of experience with Iran in the Gulf. Also I'm sure no Russian commander ever would OK a shooting down of an American plane, no matter the situation. Remember that even the USSR allowed a puny Western civilian light aircraft to fly in the middle of Russia and land in Moscow (according to many historians this anecdote did more to bring down Communism in Russia than all Reagan's policies combined) steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 22:36 on May 19, 2016 |
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A Pale Horse posted:So remember how PiS cut off funding to an organization helping women victims of domestic violence, well now they've also decided to cut off funding to an NGO called Nobody's Children (Dzieci Niczyje) which has been helping children victims of abuse and domestic violence for the past 21 years. Their justification is that it doesn't provide comprehensive services to all victims of crime (only children) which was also their justification for cutting off aid to the women's abuse charity. They're getting into mustache twirling levels of evil and its frankly gross. How do you call yourself a Catholic and cut off funding for abused children? Evil. Just plain evil.
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Are there at least signs of resistance, or is the whole country broken?
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steinrokkan posted:Also I'm sure no Russian commander ever would OK a shooting down of an American plane, no matter the situation. Werent they under the impression that the Korean airliner that was downed was an American spy plane?
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They used to shoot down American planes all the time when they got the chance. Generally they actually were spy flights though.
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steinrokkan posted:Also I'm sure no Russian commander ever would OK a shooting down of an American plane, no matter the situation. Remember that even the USSR allowed a puny Western civilian light aircraft to fly in the middle of Russia and land in Moscow (according to many historians this anecdote did more to bring down Communism in Russia than all Reagan's policies combined) Eh, the Soviet Union shot down over a dozen NATO and civilian planes in and around their airspace and got into tons of near engagement situations but they did calm down significantly after Cuba.
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Russia already made an example of Turkey for shooting down its bomber by banning cheap vacations in Turkey and cheap Turkish fruit. The most recent blow, prohibition of Turkish lettuce should have also driven the point home. Be afraid.
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woodenchicken posted:Russia already made an example of Turkey for shooting down its bomber by banning cheap vacations in Turkey and cheap Turkish fruit. The most recent blow, prohibition of Turkish lettuce should have also driven the point home. That'll help with the sanctions
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A Pale Horse posted:So remember how PiS cut off funding to an organization helping women victims of domestic violence, well now they've also decided to cut off funding to an NGO called Nobody's Children (Dzieci Niczyje) which has been helping children victims of abuse and domestic violence for the past 21 years. Their justification is that it doesn't provide comprehensive services to all victims of crime (only children) which was also their justification for cutting off aid to the women's abuse charity. They're getting into mustache twirling levels of evil and its frankly gross. How do you call yourself a Catholic and cut off funding for abused children? The exchange of favors between the government and the Church is so apparent and disgusting at this point. The Church is telling the population how to vote in exchange for funding, eliminating 'problematic' organizations, retaining the right to buy and sell land when everybody else is forbidden to, changing the law on various social issues etc. I'm becoming convinced that the plan is for Poland to head into the direction of a radical Catholic state complete with a Polish version of the burqa. My only hope is that the Church is losing more people than it's gaining with this crap and when the dust settles it will be another step to desecularization. steinrokkan posted:Are there at least signs of resistance, or is the whole country broken? Palpek fucked around with this message at 08:29 on May 20, 2016 |
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Soon there will be The Catholic State videos with Poles blowing up EU officials cars with gregorian chanting playing on the background Ave Maria!
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Palpek posted:You have to fund those new cathedrals somehow. quote:desecularization Theocracy ftw.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Palpek posted:My only hope is that the Church is losing more people than it's gaining with this crap and when the dust settles it will be another step to desecularization. You probably want the opposite of that word.
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Trogdos! posted:Soon there will be The Catholic State videos with Poles blowing up EU officials cars with gregorian chanting playing on the background Deus vult! I hope at some point the Pope gets involved and the more conservative Polish priests go full schismatic and proclaim him the Antichrist.
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