HORMELCHILI posted:

meth wagon

coupedeville posted:

hellfaucet posted:

Looks like a good time last night, sorry I missed it ya'll - it was my anniversary!

GOD IS BED posted:

e: just checked the OP, there's no info on which mumble server to use. Can someone post that info?

GOD IS BED posted:

I finally got my internet fixed, so I was able to get in on a little bit of goon fun. But because I wasn't on mumble, I got left with a bunch of hacking pubbies, which was fun in its own way. I'll be back on tonight if the wife doesn't wanna watch a movie or something.

e: just checked the OP, there's no info on which mumble server to use. Can someone post that info?

Zenzizenzizenzic posted:

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Zigmidge posted:

Go to Private Games Servers subforum and find the Camping The Stairs thread. It's not posted here for privacy.

Pound_Coin posted:

Between roughly 10pm - 4am GMT, jump on CTS mumble

Zigmidge posted:

uh

titties posted:

I can't tell if it is you or buckshot or me but in this scenario one of us is dumb as hell I think

titties posted:

I can't tell if it is you or buckshot or me but in this scenario one of us is dumb as hell I think

Zigmidge posted:

No need to pick. The three of us do still play this game, after all.

Golden Bee posted:

Do you think they're going to support GTA5 until GTA6 comes out?

Golden Bee posted:

Do you think they're going to support GTA5 until GTA6 comes out?

CascadeBeta posted:

Absolutely. GTA Online has become Rockstar's biggest money maker thanks to the microtransactions. They're going to probably provide free DLC until GTA6.

Forbes Magazine Opinion posted:

It Is Insane There Is No Story DLC For 65 Million Copies Of 'GTA 5'


Paul Tassi , CONTRIBUTOR

On an earnings call yesterday, Take-Two announced that sales numbers for Grand Theft Auto V continue to climb ever higher, as the game has now shipped 65 million copies since its original release in 2013. That’s up from 60 million by last count, and it is the fourth best-selling game of all time, just behind the (much cheaper) Minecraft’s 73 million sold.

The top two may never be caught, as one is Wii Sports which shipped with almost every Wii (hence 82.7 million copies “sold”) and #1 is Tetris, a game that’s been released for every electronic platform throughout history including mobile phones and graphing calculators, and has allegedly 495 million downloads/paid sales.

But in terms of major, full-priced AAA releases, nothing else is even close to GTA 5. That’s more than double even a megahit like Diablo 3. It’s more than the last three Call of Duty games combined. It’s a success story like no other in the industry.

So why does it feel like Rockstar is still leaving money on the table?

Despite 65 million units shipped across PC, Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS3 and PS4, there has been no story DLC released for GTA 5, nor does it look like there ever will be. Once upon a time, Rockstar was content to say “it’s coming,” but now, it seems unlikely it’s being worked on at all, because the developer has other priorities.

The main reason as to why there’s no story DLC is obvious to anyone following the trajectory of the game. Rockstar has solely devoted themselves to supply a never-ending stream of microtransactions to GTA Online, the MMO-ish portion of the game where players can create their own characters, and earn money from jobs to buy new houses and cars and clothes. But of course, there’s a shortcut that allows players to simply purchase virtual funds with real-life currency, and that’s where the money comes rolling in.

Ex-Rockstar executive Leslie Benzies is currently suing the developer, saying he was cut out of his share of the massive profits of GTA. In that lawsuit, he specifically says that GTA Online has brought in $500M in revenue from its microtransactions, which is an absolutely stunning figure. Compare that to say, Halo 5 bringing in $1.5M in revenue from selling its REQ packs of cosmetics and gear. It’s not even close.

I am not here to say that Rockstar should abandon what they’re doing with GTA Online. It’s a constant revenue stream, and clearly a very, very lucrative one. And yet with this game selling so many copies, it’s on an entirely different level from all other titles, and regardless of how well GTA Online is performing, Rockstar is leaving an exorbitant amount of money on the table by refusing to make single player story DLC for GTA 5.

The issue is that these are two different kinds of players. Yes, there is probably some overlap between those who play GTA Online and those who enjoyed the story campaign, hence why selling story DLC would probably hook the type of people who are still engaged with the game through Online, above and beyond what they’re spending on microtransactions. But there is also a group that has had zero interest in GTA Online, and they sunk ~30-80 hours into the story, and simply let the game go afterward.

That is why Rockstar should be making story DLC, to get those kinds of people back.

Fallout 4’s Far Harbor DLC comes out today, and costs $25. Knowing Rockstar’s history, they could make something three times as involved as Far Harbor and sell it for the same price. Obviously some percentage of the 65 million are going to buy that, and even if it’s, what 5-20 million? That’s anywhere from $125 million to $500 million in revenue, just from one piece of story DLC.

But that’s not all. New DLC could easily drive new purchases of the game itself. Remember, there are many, many people who bought the game when it was originally released for 360 and PS3, and since they’d already beaten it by the time the next-gen PS4, XB1 and PC version came out, they weren’t going to re-buy it just for a graphical bump and first person mode.

However, start selling a $60 remastered version of the game that includes that $25 DLC, and suddenly you’re giving them a big reason to play the game again, and the desire to re-buy it. I certainly would. With that tactic, I would not be surprised if the game could push itself past Minecraft and have it creep into Wii Sports territory, depending on how appealing the DLC was.

I understand that creating new cars and clothes and such to sell on GTA Online is a more attractive prospect. New story DLC requires a lot more work from mission design to voicework and would be more expensive and timely to develop. But with that said, Rockstar is in an entirely unique position with this many copies of the game sold. If this was a game where story DLC didn’t make sense, or Rockstar had a poor history developing DLC, I would understand, but the exact opposite is the case. GTA 5 is a story that could easily span several more chapters and Rockstar has developed some of the best, most-beloved DLC in history for this franchise specifically.

Rockstar is in the rare situation where it can have its cake and eat it too. It can keep raking in revenue from the microtransactions GTA Online, but it can also make a ton of money and drive more sales of the base game through story DLC. It doesn’t have to, sure, as the publisher has already made more money than God with this game, but why would Take Two’s shareholders not want it to take every opportunity it has to further maximize GTA 5‘s potential? The opportunity to make new story DLC is so blindingly obvious that it’s absolutely insane it hasn’t happened already. But with so many copies of the game out in the wild, and a sequel still an eternity away, the moment has not passed, and Rockstar can still make this happen, if only it would try.

Zigmidge posted:

What made everyone come out to play last night? Aside from a few new voices most cycle in and out for a few weeks every few weeks. It was super rad having most everyone together at once.

Was it just a serendipitous evening destined to show us how 16 seat vehicles are broken?

Zigmidge posted:

e: I will post a banme before I participate in this stupid topic again. Instead, have a cathartic article expressing our thoughts and emotions about story DLC. Emphasis mine.


I'm sort of ambivalent about story DLC in terms of utility. On one hand, I really don't want to have anything to do with launch week gamers (you know what I mean) but on the other hand it would be more effective than anything we've all done to round up fun chill goons. On the third hand (my penis) who the gently caress doesn't want more story DLC I mean come on Rockstarrrrrrrrrrrrrr

titties posted:

I felt so stupid.

Kaizoku posted:

On PS4, most of the time I see goons they're playing in private lobbies and playlists. Is there something fundamentally different about how PC is structured or PC crew plays where that's more of a concern?

Zigmidge posted:

Back around christmas time we all started groaning and pooping on people that wanted to move to a private mumble channel to go do a heist. We found it much more sociable to just hang together. GTA heists require a bare minimum of communication to begin with so, hey, lets shoot the poo poo instead. I guess you can call it a culture of not wanting to break up the band. It's nice when those locked into a 30min to 1hr heist can still hang and know whats' up with the rest of the crew so that it's easy to link back up. 4 4-man crews don't maintain the momentum like 1 16-man crew can.

The games themselves are basically identical across platforms.

Zigmidge posted:

Back around christmas time we all started groaning and pooping on people that wanted to move to a private mumble channel to go do a heist. We found it much more sociable to just hang together. GTA heists require a bare minimum of communication to begin with so, hey, lets shoot the poo poo instead. I guess you can call it a culture of not wanting to break up the band. It's nice when those locked into a 30min to 1hr heist can still hang and know whats' up with the rest of the crew so that it's easy to link back up. 4 4-man crews don't maintain the momentum like 1 16-man crew can.

The games themselves are basically identical across platforms.

Kaizoku posted:

On PS4, most of the time I see goons they're playing in private lobbies and playlists. Is there something fundamentally different about how PC is structured or PC crew plays where that's more of a concern?

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Anyway, PS4 Friday night fun times?

titties posted:

doing dumb poo poo like stacking buses or doing gnarly BMX jumps

titties posted:

Mostly we're friends / crew / invite because it can save a bit of loading time heisting from an invite-only session or because we're doing dumb poo poo like stacking buses or doing gnarly BMX jumps and pubbies just gently caress it up.

We can do something Friday night if you want. If you have any suggestions please let me know.

Kaizoku posted:

I don't think the purpose of my question was worded properly there; one of the issues mentioned with New Story Content was the influx of players and I was curious if PC wasn't organized in a way that would render that into having a real effect on the PC crew.

Psion posted:

I think the biggest difference between PC and PS4 crew is mumble; it's a lot easier to drop in and out and group up and stuff with mumble as opposed to PS4 friends list/poo poo like that. I mean we all have to fight with Rockstar Social's garbage UI (and the game's garbage UI) but being able to just pop in a known, pre-determined mumble channel and say "hey whats up invite me?" is easier on PC

I'm not sure if that answers your question either but that's the biggest difference to me - the very minimal barrier for someone new to pop in the channel and get in the game. so we're all used to big groups though 22 or whatever last night was insane. I was busy playing other poo poo, but well done PC crew.

Psion posted:

I mean we all have to fight with Rockstar Social's garbage UI (and the game's garbage UI)

Kaizoku posted:

I'm not against more story DLC, because I'm not against things that don't really affect me. I also think that rockstar have their heads so far up their asses they think that only people with 100% would care to have new SP content.

Anyway, PS4 Friday night fun times?