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Sanity from National Postquote:Justin Trudeau is not Jian Ghomeshi. After the initial wave of sensational and biased media it seems like most people are going "No way, that's silly" which is reassuring.
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What's less reassuring is that I think Ashton's reaction is a sincere response based on how elite members of the left have been trained to view the world over the last few decades. It's just an example of how the academic turn in the left has created a situation where leftist's lose touch with how everyone else see's the world.
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May 19, 2016 21:09
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Helsing posted:What's less reassuring is that I think Ashton's reaction is a sincere response based on how elite members of the left have been trained to view the world over the last few decades. It's just an example of how the academic turn in the left has created a situation where leftist's lose touch with how everyone else see's the world. Excellent point.
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May 19, 2016 21:39
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Brannock posted:Gendered violence is not and cannot be accidental. It’s intended purpose is to control or belittle women, to keep them in their “place.” He's taking away their equality by using his manly gifts to achieve his desired political outcomes in the house of commons. Even if he hadn't touched Ruth, he figured it was acceptable to muscle his way through smaller people and pull a dude over to accelerate some vote. A parliament where that mentality is acceptable isn't a parliament where women are equal.
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May 19, 2016 21:40
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Ikantski posted:He's taking away their equality by using his manly gifts to achieve his desired political outcomes in the house of commons. Even if he hadn't touched Ruth, he figured it was acceptable to muscle his way through smaller people and pull a dude over to accelerate some vote.
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May 19, 2016 21:42
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Oh for gently caress sake. His "manly gifts?" I don't think he was using a level of force beyond what the average woman could summon with little effort. If you think that women are all weak and pathologically unassertive, that's more a reflection on you than anything else.
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May 19, 2016 21:48
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Yeah, see this way of characterizing the incident:Ikantski posted:He's taking away their equality by using his manly gifts to achieve his desired political outcomes in the house of commons. Even if he hadn't touched Ruth, he figured it was acceptable to muscle his way through smaller people and pull a dude over to accelerate some vote. A parliament where that mentality is acceptable isn't a parliament where women are equal. Is a lot more accessible and comprehensible than talking about "gendered violence". Once again the use of academic sounding terminology rather than plain speech serves to obfuscate an issue that should be fairly clear cut.
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May 19, 2016 21:50
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People literally stood aside for JT, there was no "muscling" involved
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May 19, 2016 21:57
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JT alpha'd his way through a bunch of beta opposition mp's 
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May 19, 2016 22:01
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Remind me again why there is a SCC deadline? Like, what is the SCC going to do if this bill isn't passed in time?
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May 19, 2016 22:01
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It wont be criminalized and without "sound and reasoned judgement from the Liberal Party of Canada" who work diligently to creat the bill that Harper had left for him.
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May 19, 2016 22:03
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The National Energy Board (NEB) has recommended approval of the controversial Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain expansion project. NEB reports found the benefits of the Trans Mountain project is 'considerable'. Benefits include jobs and market diversification. 
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May 19, 2016 22:07
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THC posted:The National Energy Board (NEB) has recommended approval of the controversial Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain expansion project. NEB reports found the benefits of the Trans Mountain project is 'considerable'. Benefits include jobs and market diversification. Back to the mountain then
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May 19, 2016 22:13
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The international markets are just clamouring to buy our lovely dirty oil! Think of the jahbs!
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May 19, 2016 22:14
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Meat Recital posted:Remind me again why there is a SCC deadline? Like, what is the SCC going to do if this bill isn't passed in time? There will no longer be any law governing doctor assisted suicide, much like abortion: fire up the death panels and clear the ice floes. THC posted:The National Energy Board (NEB) has recommended approval of the controversial Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain expansion project. NEB reports found the benefits of the Trans Mountain project is 'considerable'. Benefits include jobs and market diversification. Aren't there like 150 conditions on that approval? I haven't read the report so they could be nothing, but that seems like an important thing to leave out.
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May 19, 2016 22:15
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#Elbowgate is the most disappointing sequel to The Shawinigan Handshake I could possibly imagine.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:#Elbowgate is the most disappointing sequel to The Shawinigan Handshake I could possibly imagine. It wasn't a sequel to the Shawinigan Handshake. It was a dollar store knockoff of the Corey Lewandowski mess.
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Meat Recital posted:Remind me again why there is a SCC deadline? Like, what is the SCC going to do if this bill isn't passed in time? When the SCC strikes down laws they typically set deadlines for parliament to rewrite the law or write a new one that complies with their interpretation of the Constitution. Until that deadline, or until a new law is passed, the old law remains in force. If that deadline passes without a new law being written, then the old law is struck from the books completely and, without a replacement, whatever it enacted is no longer in force at all. For example, let's say the SCC found that the current Canadian law criminalizing prostitution was unconstitutional and gave Parliament a year to rewrite the legislation. During that year, the old law on prostitution remains in force and it remains criminalized. If six months later Parliament were to pass a new law on prostitution, the old one would be struck from the books and the new one would come into force immediately. If, however, during that year Parliament did not pass a new law governing prostitution, then at the expiry of the deadline the old law would be struck from the books and prostitution would become de facto legal, because there would no longer be a law criminalizing it. Note however that there would be nothing stopping Parliament from writing a new law six months after that recriminalizing prostitution, as long as that law complied with the specifics of the SCC's ruling on the original law. The only thing that would change is that for six months there would be no law criminalizing it.
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May 19, 2016 22:35
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Does anyone still give a poo poo about the euthanasia issue? Just me? 
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May 19, 2016 22:41
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THC posted:The National Energy Board (NEB) has recommended approval of the controversial Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain expansion project. NEB reports found the benefits of the Trans Mountain project is 'considerable'. Benefits include jobs and market diversification. Is there anyone ITT who doesn't think energy east is going to happen too?
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May 19, 2016 22:45
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Pixelante posted:Does anyone still give a poo poo about the euthanasia issue? Just me? We did one in december on our floor, shortly after it became legal, and a second patient is asking to have it done soon. I'm all for it
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May 19, 2016 23:30
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Pixelante posted:Does anyone still give a poo poo about the euthanasia issue? Just me? I still think it's unfair we blame the youth in Asia for ending the lives of the elderly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya_uJHdOtdc
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May 19, 2016 23:35
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Only if we can forcibly euthanize everyone in Vancouver
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May 19, 2016 23:37
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Candidate in the PQ leadership race wants less immigrants, because of course he does
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May 20, 2016 00:29
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Nine of Eight posted:We did one in december on our floor, shortly after it became legal, and a second patient is asking to have it done soon. I'm all for it There is something gauche about being all for it.
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May 20, 2016 00:36
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Nine of Eight posted:We did one in december on our floor, shortly after it became legal, and a second patient is asking to have it done soon. I'm all for it I'm in favour too, but also believe doctors should be allowed to refuse to administer for moral/religious reasons.
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:I'm in favour too, but also believe doctors should be allowed to refuse to administer for moral/religious reasons. They are, as are the treating nurse and pharmacist. Kafka Esq. posted:There is something gauche about being all for it. Ok, I'm mildly enthusiastic about the ability of those who are suffering to make a decision. 
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May 20, 2016 00:42
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Nine of Eight posted:They are, as are the treating nurse and pharmacist. As per the SCC guidelines that may end up as de facto law if the Libs can't get this legislation passed.
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quote:Ontario PC leader Brown bringing progressive stance to old party values Honestly this sounds really similar to what Horwath was trying to do. The relevant difference being that there's an actual precedent for the PC's being this kind of party under Bill Davis, whereas Horwath trying to drag a bunch of unionists and socialists into the centre came off as really incongruent and disingenuous. I can see why the Liberals are going all in for their environmental plan. Like ikantski was saying, they need to be able to keep striking a contrast between themselves and the PCs or half their justification for being in office will evaporate.
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Nine of Eight posted:We did one in december on our floor, shortly after it became legal, and a second patient is asking to have it done soon. I'm all for it I'm cautiously for it. If I get Alzheimers like my father, I'm tapping out as soon as possible. Gun, pillow, tranqs: whatever gets the job done. However, it's a problem when disability and mental health are considered. The option of euthanasia is predicated on the notion that alternative solutions to unlivable suffering were available. Unfortunately, for a lot of people they aren't. The Vulnerable Persons Standard does a pretty good job covering it. Essentially, unless we're prepared to fix a lot of expensive problems with the health care system, euthanasia really ought to be limited to end-of-life. Right now, the wording allows for disability as a justifiable reason. Consider what happened in the Netherlands, who formally legalised euthanasia in 2001: “…the Netherlands has moved from euthanasia of people who are terminally ill, to euthanasia of those who are chronically ill; from euthanasia for physical illness, to euthanasia for mental illness; from euthanasia for mental illness, to euthanasia for psychological distress or mental suffering—and now to euthanasia simply if a person is over the age of 70 and ‘tired of living.’ Dutch euthanasia protocols have also moved from conscious patients providing explicit consent, to unconscious patients unable to provide consent. Denying euthanasia or PAS [physician-assisted suicide] in the Netherlands is now considered a form of discrimination against people with chronic illness, whether the illness be physical or psychological, because those people will be forced to ‘suffer’ longer than those who are terminally ill. Non-voluntary euthanasia is now being justified by appealing to the social duty of citizens and the ethical pillar of beneficence.” (pulled from a 2011 article in Current Oncology) v Thing of beauty, eh? v Pixelante fucked around with this message at 01:07 on May 20, 2016 |
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May 20, 2016 00:56
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Lgbt Tories What in gently caress
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May 20, 2016 01:04
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They're gay men who got their marriage rights (thanks activists!) and feel it's time to move onto more important things: supply-side economics, fiscal conservatism and the gospel of personal responsibility!
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May 20, 2016 01:10
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Cultural Imperial posted:Lgbt Tories Rich LGBT people who vote the way other rich people do, for the same reasons
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May 20, 2016 01:14
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Kafka Esq. posted:There is something gauche about being all for it. I watched my grandma slowly deteriorate mentally for 6 years, that's a grenade I'm willing to jump on
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May 20, 2016 01:24
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Filmed through a gendered lens, a Brosseau on Trudeau sex-tape would be pretty rad.
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Cultural Imperial posted:time for a roll call I did, but if it helps, when I got home tonight I phoned the NDP and left a message telling them I'm "resigning" my membership and don't want to get their emails anymore, then I sent them an email as well (explaining that I thought the theatrics and behavior over #Elbowgate was the final straw, which I couldn't do on the phone because I'm a limp wristed etc etc)
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Heavy neutrino posted:Rich LGBT people who vote the way other rich people do, for the same reasons They're mostly GB though, let's be honest
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Through a lense, genderedly
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May 20, 2016 01:33
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Dallan Invictus posted:https://twitter.com/curryb/status/733321309178974208 Can someone elaborate on this for me because CBC has nothing on it
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Kafka Esq. posted:There is something gauche about being all for it. There was also probably something gauche about being all for quick organ transplants, ect, but its a literally life-changing issue for a lot of people, and I'm not surprised euthanasia it's coming up now that the baby-boomer's are starting a steadily growing migration to the pearly gates. Having worked in a dementia clinic, where half the patients spent their time with utterly defeated faces and unable to speak, smile or I assume comprehend and remember anything going on around them I've become a bit more "all for it." My grandmother totally would have wanted to be euthanized, she signed a form asking doctors not to do anything in case of heart-attack, ect. Her body was super resilient but her mind went quickly and my mother spend three years of her life visiting and feeding her every second day, really shifted the family dynamic and priorities. My grandmother really didn't want that, but its near impossible to abandon someone you love to years of solitary confinement even if they literally don't seem to have a mind. I can only imagine its worse for struggling families and again think its important in this time in history when we seem to have the medical technology to keep all the vital organs functional for years and years after the brain is gone. It's tricky ethically but really important to face.
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