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Law Cheetah posted:i dont think that the AfO/OfA conflict can sustain a 400+ chapter mainstay Jump behemoth. and shueisha is pinning its future on MHA. they want another big drat series. you can always introduce a stronger villain, and its gonna happen eventually imo Or Horikoshi will have the artistic integrity to not do that bullshit.
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If the series keeps going it will be about the continuing growth of Class 1-A (and 1-B and friends) as actual heroes and the stuff they have to do to protect the world
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May 20, 2016 01:31
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Genocyber posted:Or Horikoshi will have the artistic integrity to not do that bullshit. i dont think there's anything wrong with it, though. goku doesnt need to fight the red ribbon army his whole life
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May 20, 2016 01:39
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Genocyber posted:Or Horikoshi will have the artistic integrity to not do that bullshit.
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May 20, 2016 01:47
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I don't know why AFO has to be the be-all-end-all of villains 
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May 20, 2016 01:49
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If one person can't threaten Deku at his theoretical peak, then have a bunch of people fight him together.
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Aurora posted:I don't know why AFO has to be the be-all-end-all of villains The problem is that AFO seems uh, kinda insanely powerful so I dunno how you top him without getting Toriko levels of silly. I enjoy the cape comic influences but I'd hope this doesn't end with Midoriya punching the multiverse.
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Fabricated posted:I would like Midoriya to have his own badguys instead of just inheriting All Might's or having ones that're just mooks for AFO myself. He really deserves his owns rogues gallery. They're going to kill each other and we'll have dueling Deku/ Shigaraki screaming realizations.
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Fabricated posted:I would like Midoriya to have his own badguys instead of just inheriting All Might's or having ones that're just mooks for AFO myself. He really deserves his owns rogues gallery. Deku's main badguy is going to be Shigaraki. Soylentbits posted:They're going to kill each other and we'll have dueling Deku/ Shigaraki screaming realizations. It's going to rule hard.
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May 20, 2016 02:08
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Deku's main badguy is going to be Shigaraki. AFO is the combat big-bad though unless he can pass his own quirk down to Shigaraki- which could happen. Midoriya will beat AFO, but he'll "save" Shigaraki. I guarantee at least the latter.
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May 20, 2016 02:12
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There's gonna be a reason that AfO raises a successor (other than "but OfA is doing it too!" of course), and the reason will remove him from the playing field in the near future problem solved
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May 20, 2016 02:13
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Fabricated posted:Emotionally, mentally, yeah. I think Shigaraki's being set up far more clearly as Deku's enemy than AFO. AFO is like you said still an All Might foe and only someone that it seems Deku would fight due to OFA's history with him. But Shigaraki has so many parallels with Deku already, they're being set up almost as mirrors and I think them tussling would be more fitting than Deku against AFO. They're students of the biggest Hero and Villain in the world, they're the future. I honestly don't think this manga or these last few chapters are building to Deku v All For One, but Deku vs Shigaraki instead.
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May 20, 2016 02:22
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Yeah, Shigaraki's definitely going to be the "main" villain of this; All For One may return at the end if he doesn't bite it, but he's not Deku's "true" villain. Shigaraki's growing alongside Deku, and has already made pretty good progress towards succeeding his mentor. Far more than Deku has; we've seen him doing things like effectively leading the VA, and they seem to actually respect him now. Heck, in this very chapter, Toga (who in the past he, you know, tried to kill and all) begged him for help, and his reaction was to do the very un-Shigaraki thing of jumping between her and Gran Torino to defend her. He's clearly learning from AFO well; if AFO does die or get captured here, he could probably lead the VA personally now. Biggest issue for them would be the lack of new Noumus, since they need All For One to create those. Though, if AFO escapes and survives long enough to pass on his quirk(s)... Well, All For One did declare Shigaraki the new Symbol of Evil. Perhaps its time for his official debut. Edit: Actually, on that topic, I'm thinking that All Might may not die here yet, if only so Shigaraki can be the architect of his downfall, whether by killing him or not. After all, Shigaraki's goal is a world without All Might; while AFO could do that for him, it seems like he should be the one to achieve that. Though, AFO defeating All Might but dying could be the catalyst he needs; after moping and raging and whatnot, he collects himself and dedicates himself to a new goal (well, "new"; it'd really be more refocusing himself on the other part of his goal): The complete destruction of the "hero society". Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 02:45 on May 20, 2016 |
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May 20, 2016 02:35
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I think we're gonna get some flashback chapters and for once I'm hyped for it
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Genocyber posted:Or Horikoshi will have the artistic integrity to not do that bullshit. rear end Class was huge and ended on schedule after 4 years so who knows what will happen
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There's lots of ways the series could expand long stretches without just introducing an Even More Powerful Freeza than last time. For example, there could be an ark where they take a class trip to America (a la Eyeshield 21) and learn from the heroes/fight absurd American style villains. Deku could visit all 50 States & Some major cities to learn new SMASH moves.
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Rich Uncle Chet posted:There's lots of ways the series could expand long stretches without just introducing an Even More Powerful Freeza than last time. I never realized how loving badly I wanted this until now. 
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May 20, 2016 04:52
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Only if we get a cameo by the greatest superhero, Florida Man.
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May 20, 2016 08:29
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Nalin posted:Only if we get a cameo by the greatest superhero, Florida Man. https://youtu.be/jc-lA-S9qkA Not the hero we need, but the hero we deserve.
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Dr Subterfuge posted:https://youtu.be/jc-lA-S9qkA I'd watch it.
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Fabricated posted:Emotionally, mentally, yeah. Isn't that what the hands all over Shigaraki are doing? At least I thought that...I can't remember where I got that idea.
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May 20, 2016 21:20
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Space-Bird posted:Isn't that what the hands all over Shigaraki are doing? At least I thought that...I can't remember where I got that idea. That was never confirmed, it's just an idea a lot of people like. At present all we've seen them doing is being a source of comfort for him, and the one on his face is his father's.
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May 21, 2016 00:27
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Why would the guy whose quirk is transferring quirks need to use a bunch of severed hands? It isn't like he needs to perform a ritual or anything.
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Serious Frolicking posted:Why would the guy whose quirk is transferring quirks need to use a bunch of severed hands? It isn't like he needs to perform a ritual or anything. Maybe overstuffing someone with quirks kills them/warps their body? And the way to avoid this is using some proxy. Is AfO's jacked up body only a result of his previous fight with All Might, or is there something else going on there?
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May 21, 2016 00:47
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Serious Frolicking posted:Why would the guy whose quirk is transferring quirks need to use a bunch of severed hands? It isn't like he needs to perform a ritual or anything. Maybe shigaraki is just hosed up in the head a bit. And keeps severed hands of people he's killed for his costume.
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So I just saw X men Apocalypse and, huh, they've basically made Apocalypse One for All, at least as far as powers go.
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Guy A. Person posted:Maybe overstuffing someone with quirks kills them/warps their body? And the way to avoid this is using some proxy. Why would severed hands hold quirks? Like, there has been no indication that they are alive. He wears them around but he has never done anything with them. The heroes all wear costumes to assist their quirks, so why not the villains? Also, a41's head was smashed to pieces which is why All Might assumed he was dead. Why should there be another, unrelated reason for his head being all hosed up?
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May 21, 2016 00:59
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giving someone multiple quirks fucks them up which is why they end up as noumu's. its just speculation that its a way to transfer powers without loving someone up since all for one is raising his successor
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The first time a41 was mentioned it said that multiple quirks may gently caress someone up. If it never worked he would only ever use it to make noumus. Though, noumus are a recent invention as All Might didn't know what the one that came to ua was. If his only options back in the day were "steal quirks" and "turn people into useless drooling vegetables" I don't really see how a41 would ever have been able to take over a country. Then there is how we saw from the scene with Best Jeanist, a41 is carefully selecting quirks to give to Shigaraki. Meaning, he can't just stuff infinite amounts into the guy so he only wants the best. That is also why I doubt he is passing on his own quirk. If Shigaraki could steal them himself he could pick and choose when the time came. I guess a41 might bequeath some of his enormous quirk collection to other members of the villain alliance, too. Most of them are barely any better than largely untrained kids, and those kids are continually improving. The villains will need some kind of edge if they are going to be believable threats for the rest of the class.
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i thought he didn't want to give him best jeanists quirk mostly because it requires a huge amount of training to be good with rather than not being powerful enough i'm not saying the hands are how he's passing on quirks though
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Jose posted:i thought he didn't want to give him best jeanists quirk mostly because it requires a huge amount of training to be good with rather than not being powerful enough If he isn't giving Shigaraki every powerful quirk he comes across, then obviously Shigaraki can't handle all those quirks. Or I guess maybe a41 has a limit on how many he can transfer in his current condition? I think the former is more likely, though of course we still have no details on how a41 even works.
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My guess was that he can only give maybe one extra quirk to someone normally. Or in the past, maybe he recruited quirkless people in order to tempt them with a promise of power. The only times we've heard of him giving quirks to someone who already has a quirk has been noumus and One for All. Which, if remember right, resulted in the quirks merging, so it could even be that noumus are the only way to gift multiple quirks and keep them separate, and quirk merging is too much of a crapshoot to risk. Still lots of info to learn here.
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Noumus are a recent invention. Going off of that one exposition chapter, originally people who couldn't handle multiple quirks ended up broken and useless. They don't naturally turn into exposed brain monsters when quirks are inserted into them. Instead, they are remodeled so that they can be somewhat functional soldiers. I dunno if a41 does that part personally or what, but it doesn't really matter. The dude is on his way out, and I don't think his quirk is getting passed down. Though, I suppose it is possible for him to make a grand reappearance after Shigaraki "Midboss" Tomura goes down, but it is way too early to predict that sort of thing.
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AFO's also got that doctor who some people think looks a lot like Deku's childhood doctor; I think he might be involved in the Noumu creation process too, if he's not there just to keep AFO alive.
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Roland Jones posted:AFO's also got that doctor who some people think looks a lot like Deku's childhood doctor; I think he might be involved in the Noumu creation process too, if he's not there just to keep AFO alive. Now that is the start of a fanfiction story. AFO and Deku meet in the hospital lobby and villainy ensues
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considering an unhealth all might destroyed an unhealthy all for one deku is going to be unstoppable if he gets full power and i look forward to the spin off where his successor decides to take over the world
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Serious Frolicking posted:Noumus are a recent invention. Going off of that one exposition chapter, originally people who couldn't handle multiple quirks ended up broken and useless. They don't naturally turn into exposed brain monsters when quirks are inserted into them. Instead, they are remodeled so that they can be somewhat functional soldiers. I dunno if a41 does that part personally or what, but it doesn't really matter. The dude is on his way out, and I don't think his quirk is getting passed down. You don't think Shigaraki is going to walk a parallel path to Deku, and take up AfO's mantle like Deku is taking up All Might's? The narrative clues seem to be pointing strongly towards that, but it'll be neat to see what happens, regardless.
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Rohan Kishibe posted:My guess was that he can only give maybe one extra quirk to someone normally. Or in the past, maybe he recruited quirkless people in order to tempt them with a promise of power. The only times we've heard of him giving quirks to someone who already has a quirk has been noumus and One for All. Which, if remember right, resulted in the quirks merging, so it could even be that noumus are the only way to gift multiple quirks and keep them separate, and quirk merging is too much of a crapshoot to risk. Still lots of info to learn here. He wouldn't even need to recruit quirkless people. Just find someone with a lovely quirk, take away their lovely quirk, and give them a new good quirk. And hell, if he's using some sort of connection to the medical profession, as looks maybe possible, to steal good quirks from the young he could just throw away the lovely quirks he keeps accumulating into the kids he takes good quirks away from. It'd end up just looking like the quality of quirks is going down over time and would functionally preemptively weaken his (possible) foes and victims while strengthening himself and his allies.
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But then you get into the weirdness that is the quirks v traits thing, or something like Midoriya's situation: the quirk just does not suit his body - yet.
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Space-Bird posted:You don't think Shigaraki is going to walk a parallel path to Deku, and take up AfO's mantle like Deku is taking up All Might's? The narrative clues seem to be pointing strongly towards that, but it'll be neat to see what happens, regardless. Oh, that is totally where the story is going. But if it gets continued past that point, there is a new(ish) and more dangerous villain than Shigaraki waiting in the wings. A41 needs to stay the gently caress out of dodge while Deku develops, and killing him off would be the easiest way to do so. But once Shigaraki is taken care of, a41 could end up back on the table. I don't really think that is likely, but it is a possibility albeit one that is years away. We'll see how much Horikoshi likes having a successful series after all those failures, I guess.
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