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JollyPubJerk
Nov 10, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Blacktoll posted:

Yeah Royce are to the Vale that Dayne is to Dorne. Cool but never going to be properly utilized in either the books or show.

half the point of the story is that cool doesn't automatically get to be awesome, but can be marginalized and killed quite forgetably

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marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Red posted:

Now, because he wed Lysa, and she's dead - should anything happen to Robyn, Littlefinger inherits The Vale.

No he doesn't. You don't inherit titles through marriage, only through blood. It doesn't work like inheriting your spouses house in the modern day. Play some Crusader Kings 2 people!

It goes to the Lord's children, then their siblings, etc, never to their spouses. Lysa and LF have no claim on the Vale, only their influence over Robyn. If Robyn dies it goes to some other member of the Arryn family, if any exist.

If LF inherits upon Robyn's death, why is Robyn still alive?

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

marktheando posted:

No he doesn't. You don't inherit titles through marriage, only through blood. It doesn't work like inheriting your spouses house in the modern day. Play some Crusader Kings 2 people!

It goes to the Lord's children, then their siblings, etc, never to their spouses. Lysa and LF have no claim on the Vale, only their influence over Robyn. If Robyn dies it goes to some other member of the Arryn family, if any exist.

If LF inherits upon Robyn's death, why is Robyn still alive?

As far as we know, there are no other Arryns. Who else would inherit it? That guy who escaped the Red Wedding by pissing outside?

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Red posted:

As far as we know, there are no other Arryns. Who else would inherit it? That guy who escaped the Red Wedding by pissing outside?

No, he was a Tully. No reason for him to inherit the Vale. It would go to some Arryn cousin or something.

LF's control of the Vale is entirely through his influence over Robyn. This was shown very clearly in the last episode. If Robyn died that old knight guy would probably have LF executed.

lllllllllllllllllll
Feb 28, 2010

Now the scene's lighting is perfect!
Not sure where else to post this. Wife and I just watched our very first GoT episode (1-1) and were a little (just a little) put off by all the nudity. Is this what we can expect for the remaining episodes as well? Sorry if this sounds prudish.

Xanderkish
Aug 10, 2011

Hello!

lllllllllllllllllll posted:

Not sure where else to post this. Wife and I just watched our very first GoT episode (1-1) and were a little (just a little) put off by all the nudity. Is this what we can expect for the remaining episodes as well? Sorry if this sounds prudish.

Yep. A key skill for any veteran GoT viewer is learning how to use the fast forward button to skip past the stupid parts.

lllllllllllllllllll
Feb 28, 2010

Now the scene's lighting is perfect!
Thanks! I expected political struggle, the occasional monster and sword fights and got unwanted "marriage" and incest in the first episode (if I understood relationships correctly). Personally I don't mind that too much, but my wife won't play along and I can understand her. Oh well. Thanks, Xanderkish.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

lllllllllllllllllll posted:

Not sure where else to post this. Wife and I just watched our very first GoT episode (1-1) and were a little (just a little) put off by all the nudity. Is this what we can expect for the remaining episodes as well? Sorry if this sounds prudish.

To be honest if you can look past the gore / violence but not the nudity I think your priorities are out of order. However in general I don't think you should give any show just a one-episode chance. I'd judge off of 2 or 3 at least.

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



The Dave posted:

To be honest if you can look past the gore / violence but not the nudity I think your priorities are out of order. However in general I don't think you should give any show just a one-episode chance. I'd judge off of 2 or 3 at least.

Welcome to America. But yeah I love when Americans whine about fanservice in anime but man I sure love seeing dudes get murdered horribly! It does nothing for me personally and can be annoying but it doesn't deter me.

Also last season had like 6 minutes of nudity, the first season has by far the most.

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Reminds me of my grandparents who would immediately turn off anything that featured nudity or swearing, yet Last of the Mohicans with someones heart being torn out of their chest in grisly detail, limbs being smashed with war clubs, all totally fine. One of their favourite movies.

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

lllllllllllllllllll posted:

Not sure where else to post this. Wife and I just watched our very first GoT episode (1-1) and were a little (just a little) put off by all the nudity. Is this what we can expect for the remaining episodes as well? Sorry if this sounds prudish.

You know, I think the first season has some nudity in there to grab viewers, but I feel like you see less as time goes on.

Nudity is far outweighed by graphic violence as the show progresses.

Plus, I don't think the nudity is senseless - it usually fits the scene.

Xanderkish
Aug 10, 2011

Hello!

Red posted:

You know, I think the first season has some nudity in there to grab viewers, but I feel like you see less as time goes on.

Nudity is far outweighed by graphic violence as the show progresses.

Plus, I don't think the nudity is senseless - it usually fits the scene.

Sure, you can make nudity fit the scene, but there's a suspicious amount of scenes in Game of Thrones that take place in whorehouses.

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

Xanderkish posted:

Sure, you can make nudity fit the scene, but there's a suspicious amount of scenes in Game of Thrones that take place in whorehouses.

The proprietor, Littlefinger, made his fortune this way by accommodating the immoral tastes of the rich. He also uses it as a spy network.

As the show progresses, prostitution is actually a significant point of contention for a few storylines.

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

They do like their sexy exposition scenes, that's for sure.

Though nothing in Thrones is quite as silly as the Italian Pope explaining the political geography of Italy to his Italian mistress while pleasuring her in The Borgias.

some bust on that guy
Jan 21, 2006

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

lllllllllllllllllll posted:

Not sure where else to post this. Wife and I just watched our very first GoT episode (1-1) and were a little (just a little) put off by all the nudity. Is this what we can expect for the remaining episodes as well? Sorry if this sounds prudish.

Yes, definitely, episode 1 is incredibly tame for what's to come. If you keep watching, you'll get used to it. You'll have to.

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer
Skip ahead to S5.E10 - Mother's Mercy, then go back to the beginning, and you'll be all set.

Manic X
Jul 1, 2015

:britain:
Only just realised on a second viewing that the running theme of this week's episode was the three sets of siblings who reunited. Nice little touch.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Binary Logic posted:

People were all caught up in sword fighting but -
I have to put the blame for Robyn's poor archery skills directly on Royce. Terrible teacher/coach if Robyn can't even hit a target by now. He's holding the arrow wrong, he's aiming wrong, he's moving during the release....he's doing so many things wrong it's hard to watch.
Really hope the Vale troops are better trained or they'll go down in battle like a Dorne king's bodyguard. :stonk:

Uh, that's not a problem at all. That's exactly what they're supposed to be depicting.

The knights of the vale are badass and Royce knows what he's doing; but he's not really trying. We see that as soon as Littlefinger drops off Robyn the first time, Royce pretty much just laughs and gives up on him ever really improving, and Littlefinger is just kinda like "yeah well, do your best."

Royce can't push Robyn or discipline him or punish him in any way, so he's stuck just going "hey buddy, take a shot! you did it! good job!" even though Robyn sucks.

lllllllllllllllllll posted:

Not sure where else to post this. Wife and I just watched our very first GoT episode (1-1) and were a little (just a little) put off by all the nudity. Is this what we can expect for the remaining episodes as well? Sorry if this sounds prudish.

Its not TV, its HBO. (Its not TV, its porn)

Yeah there's tons of boobies in Game of Thrones, as well as most high-budget period productions, so... yeah. Guess not for you.

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos

blarzgh posted:

Skip ahead to S5.E10 - Mother's Mercy, then go back to the beginning, and you'll be all set.

"...But you need the bad pussy"
*record scratch*
"-Woah what the hell was that all about? Hey I'm Bronn and I bet you were asking yourself that very same question. how the hell did a guy like me find himself on a pier in Dorne with Jaime fooking Lannister and this crazy broad and her family? well, it's kind of a long story so maybe we should start at the beginning..."
*5 years earlier*

emanresu tnuocca fucked around with this message at 15:45 on May 20, 2016

Xanderkish
Aug 10, 2011

Hello!

emanresu tnuocca posted:

"...But you need the bad pussy"
*record scratch*
"-Woah what the hell was that all about? Hey I'm Bronn and I bet you were asking yourself that very same question. how the hell did a guy like me find himself on a pier in Dorne with Jaime fooking Lannister and this crazy broad and her family, well, it's kind of a long story so maybe we should start at the beginning..."
*5 years earlier*

I would watch this poo poo out of this version of Game of Thrones, provided Bronn continues to offer commentary and other members of Game of Thrones come in and offer their own snarky commentary and bicker with one another as the story progresses.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

emanresu tnuocca posted:

"...But you need the bad pussy"
*record scratch*
"-Woah what the hell was that all about? Hey I'm Bronn and I bet you were asking yourself that very same question. how the hell did a guy like me find himself on a pier in Dorne with Jaime fooking Lannister and this crazy broad and her family? well, it's kind of a long story so maybe we should start at the beginning..."
*5 years earlier*

The trailer for this version of Game of Thrones most definitely includes the song "Walking on Sunshine."

Filthy Casual
Aug 13, 2014

emanresu tnuocca posted:

"...But you need the bad pussy"
*record scratch*
"-Woah what the hell was that all about? Hey I'm Bronn and I bet you were asking yourself that very same question. how the hell did a guy like me find himself on a pier in Dorne with Jaime fooking Lannister and this crazy broad and her family? well, it's kind of a long story so maybe we should start at the beginning..."
*5 years earlier*

The series was never more enjoyable for me than when it was Bronn/Tyrion's Excellent Adventures, with a side of Podrick.

Particularly season 3, episodes 3-4, where it seems like Pod and Jon Snow simultaneously discover cunnilingus. No one else in GoT was able to have a hooker give the money back, so I can't imagine what else Podrick did. It was so shocking even Varys needed to take notes.

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Where the hell is Bronn anyway?

Has he even been in an episode this season?

I hope he didn't wind up on that rowboat with Gendry and Blackfish.

turtlecrunch
May 14, 2013

Hesitation is defeat.

Ghost of LSV posted:

I have a bad feeling about Jon Snow's eyes based on Ramsay's threat in the message, and the season 6 promo poster...


Luckily we already had Arya go blind then get fixed so that fills our "blind storyline" quota.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

THA TITTY THRILLER posted:

The trailer for this version of Game of Thrones most definitely includes the song "Walking on Sunshine."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fPgIIB67bw Its Queen, but close enough

freckle posted:

Where the hell is Bronn anyway?

Has he even been in an episode this season?

I hope he didn't wind up on that rowboat with Gendry and Blackfish.

He disappeared on the boat trip to KL :iiam:

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Bronn is definitely still in, and will supposedly feature when Jamie and/or Brienne goes to the Riverlands as seen in the trailer. Someone claimed he was the one grabbing Podrick in one of the trailers.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

I assume he's just hanging out in his new lordly home.

Maarak
May 23, 2007

"Go for it!"
Bronn is plotting the Dornish invasion of KL.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan
Where the gently caress is Blackfish by the way? He was conspicuously introduced so well, and with such scenery chewing that I even remembered his name. He's nowhere to be seen for YEARS.

Sand Monster
Apr 13, 2008

Remulak posted:

Where the gently caress is Blackfish by the way? He was conspicuously introduced so well, and with such scenery chewing that I even remembered his name. He's nowhere to be seen for YEARS.

We need an updated version:



Also there was an AMA on reddit with the director of a few recent episodes, including "Oathbreaker":

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4k5htd/i_am_daniel_sackheim_im_a_television_director_and/

:siren: He discusses dual wielding swords at the Tower of Joy! :siren:

Sand Monster fucked around with this message at 16:51 on May 20, 2016

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Remulak posted:

Where the gently caress is Blackfish by the way?
Still taking a piss.

His actor has been cast for season 6, so we'll find out.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon

Xanderkish posted:

I would watch this poo poo out of this version of Game of Thrones, provided Bronn continues to offer commentary and other members of Game of Thrones come in and offer their own snarky commentary and bicker with one another as the story progresses.

So a GoT Rifftrax done by the GoT cast?

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Sand Monster posted:

We need an updated version:



Also there was an AMA on reddit with the director of a few recent episodes, including "Oathbreaker":

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4k5htd/i_am_daniel_sackheim_im_a_television_director_and/

:siren: He discusses dual wielding swords at the Tower of Joy! :siren:

All he says is "I got really excited about a video of Bruce Lee with nunchucks and showed it to everybody and that's why we went with 2 swords"

Yup, loving stupid. I'm sorry but that's really dumb. Nunchucks aren't a proper weapon you'd ever want to use in a fight. They're used for training speed (they look flashy but accomplish very little, much like fighting with two swords!) and if they were ever even used in a fight, it was by farmers as improvised weapons because they didn't have spears or swords.

loving swordchucks. The guy directing the fight scenes is the fighter from 8-bit theater, god help us.

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 17:41 on May 20, 2016

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

The best thing about that thread is the people asking if a mobile phone commercial featuring a guy who died in the early 70s is CGI or not.

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




Xanderkish posted:

I dunno, what do people here think of the Walking Dead?

It's poo poo like most zombie media.

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

GoT is technically zombie media too, just the zombies have been on a smoke break for six years.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Zaphod42 posted:

All he says is "I got really excited about a video of Bruce Lee with nunchucks and showed it to everybody and that's why we went with 2 swords"

Yup, loving stupid. I'm sorry but that's really dumb. Nunchucks aren't a proper weapon you'd ever want to use in a fight. They're used for training speed (they look flashy but accomplish very little, much like fighting with two swords!) and if they were ever even used in a fight, it was by farmers as improvised weapons because they didn't have spears or swords.

loving swordchucks. The guy directing the fight scenes is the fighter from 8-bit theater, god help us.

Huh? This is what he responded with when asked why they went with two swords instead of a greatsword:

"We were looking for something that Arthur Dayne could do that would exhibit almost superhuman prowess. While we tried, we could not achieve that using one sword."

Makes sense.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

enraged_camel posted:

Huh? This is what he responded with when asked why they went with two swords instead of a greatsword:

"We were looking for something that Arthur Dayne could do that would exhibit almost superhuman prowess. While we tried, we could not achieve that using one sword."

Makes sense.

He's talking about this one:

"It took about three months. It went through numerous iterations as we searched for something dynamic and different from other sword fights the show had done. I don't now if there was one person we just kept throwing around ideas. I showed the producers and stunt coordinator a Bruce Lee video (not sure of it's authenticity) with him playing to men at ping pong, and Lee using a pair nunchucks. It was jaw dropping and that kind of led to the idea of two swords."

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Next up Jon Snow is gonna shoot arrows while surfing a shield down some stairs while dragons shoot fireballs at him while through fire and flames plays in the background because the possibly retarded fight choreographer thpught that was cool

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Na'at
May 5, 2003

You need chaos in your soul to give birth to a dancing star
Lipstick Apathy

Zaphod42 posted:

All he says is "I got really excited about a video of Bruce Lee with nunchucks and showed it to everybody and that's why we went with 2 swords"

Yup, loving stupid. I'm sorry but that's really dumb. Nunchucks aren't a proper weapon you'd ever want to use in a fight. They're used for training speed (they look flashy but accomplish very little, much like fighting with two swords!) and if they were ever even used in a fight, it was by farmers as improvised weapons because they didn't have spears or swords.

loving swordchucks. The guy directing the fight scenes is the fighter from 8-bit theater, god help us.

Counterpoint: Shut up

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