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xthetenth posted:Good aftermarket card OC vs good aftermarket card OC, I'm not expecting the 1070 to win right now based on the 1080 OC numbers. The 1080 is going to need a decent boost when it gets adequate power for an overclock unless the 1070 scales better than it looks (ROP bottleneck or the like). Remember that it's the overclock that made the 980 Ti so good. The 1070 has the same number of ROPs as the 1080 so I don't expect it to bottleneck there. Maybe a bottleneck on memory bandwidth? I also expect that we won't be seeing any memory OCing worth a drat on the 1070 since the GDDR5 is pretty much going to be at it's limit with the stock 8GHz clock speed. I do expect there to be good core OCing since it's GP104 either way and we have already seen 2.1GHz on the 1080 there but who knows how much that core OC will matter if there is not enough memory bandwidth to feed the higher clocked core? Touchfuzzy posted:If I have a 290X, what card am I going to have to jump up to to see any real upgrade to 1080p? Or am I just up poo poo creek and stuck with this power-hungry monster, unless I jump up a resolution? You could jump to a 1070, it's going to be pretty low power and will be more than enough to run anything you want at 1080p, hell you could just turn on DSR and be technically running at 1440p. And of course there is whatever AMD ends up bringing out with Polaris but we don't know enough yet to say anything really useful there.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:The 1070 has the same number of ROPs as the 1080 so I don't expect it to bottleneck there. Maybe a bottleneck on memory bandwidth? I also expect that we won't be seeing any memory OCing worth a drat on the 1070 since the GDDR5 is pretty much going to be at it's limit with the stock 8GHz clock speed. I do expect there to be good core OCing since it's GP104 either way and we have already seen 2.1GHz on the 1080 there but who knows how much that core OC will matter if there is not enough memory bandwidth to feed the higher clocked core? What I meant is that a ROP bottleneck would likely be needed on the 1080 for the 1070 to scale well enough against it that it beats 980 Ti head to head. It's got 75% fewer cores, memory that likely won't overclock well and provides less bandwidth (on an architecture that responds well to memory overclocks), and it needs more than that to keep up. TPU has a 980 Ti Matrix OC equalling the 1080 stock in BF 3 (also holy hell does their stock 980 Ti overclock suck, they got 9.4% from their 980 Ti reference but the Matrix OC beat stock by a whopping 34%). Needing to make up 33% more cores and do it despite less memory bandwidth is going to be a huge hill to climb.
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My computer is starting to show its age, especially when I try to play modern games like Fallout 4 or GTA 5. It's also really really really loud, which is something I would like to change. Ideally, I want to run games at 1920x1080. Would this be possible with a budget of $500-700? Or should I save up some more? Which components do I need to replace? I'm willing to stick with the HD6870 for a few months if that would be the best way to go about things. I also have a 64GB SSD drive (for OS only), and 2 storage hard drives, which I don't see being an issue. Basically, what would be the best way to use my money? PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ SuperBiiz) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: MSI P67A-G43 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($37.88 @ OutletPC) Video Card: Diamond Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card Case: Antec SONATA III 500 ATX Mid Tower Case w/500W Power Supply Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply Total: $277.76 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-20 12:59 EDT-0400
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Muttonchips posted:My computer is starting to show its age, especially when I try to play modern games like Fallout 4 or GTA 5. It's also really really really loud, which is something I would like to change. Ideally, I want to run games at 1920x1080. Would this be possible with a budget of $500-700? Or should I save up some more? Which components do I need to replace? I'm willing to stick with the HD6870 for a few months if that would be the best way to go about things. Sure is! Overclock your CPU if you haven't already. Grab a 250 gig Samsung 850 EVO to replace that tiny 64 gig dive for $80. Grab a PSU from one of the above builds to replace yours. Wait a few months and pick up a 1070 for ~$400 or so and you're set. Total cost is somewhere $550 and $600 and you'll be good for another 4 years most likely.
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The Iron Rose posted:Sure is! Overclock your CPU if you haven't already. Grab a 250 gig Samsung 850 EVO to replace that tiny 64 gig dive for $80. Grab a PSU from one of the above builds to replace yours. AVeryLargeRadish posted:Here is what I would do: What is bottlenecking my performance the most in this current set up? I used to be able to run games super smoothly, but everything seems laggier than usual.
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The original 212 was fine for overclocking the i7 920 back in 2009 and that was a 130W processor. The physics of heat transfer don't change so the updated model will surely be fine for the 2500K, which is a 95W chip at stock. I have a 212+ on my 2500K and it stays pretty frosty at 4.4GHz.
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After spending an entire day fighting a lossing battle between a z68 gd55 mobo and my Gtx 970 I have had absolutely enough of this. It's time to buy a 6600k and be done with it, only question it's which motherboard? I've seen quite a few concerns about the stability of the maximus gene. I don't care if it is too good for the 970 because I imagine that will get upgraded in a year or so as well.
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obi_ant posted:Any differences between a micro atx and a mini itx aside from the typical missing ram slot and less expansion slots? Generally worse overclocking and less fan headers and such.
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I'd like some feedback on my coming build, it is designed to play games 1080p or 1440p@120fps and virtualbox xubuntu (as a rationalization to go 16 instead of 8gb ram) My current computer is an aging nehalem (2010) era Intel system kept alive with Xeon/970 gtx upgrades, but I think it's time to retire it. I'll keep the 970 until the 1080 comes out then the entire old system will be sold. Buget: <$2500 for computer + monitor. Aiming to hit slightly beyond the sweet spot in the price/performance curve for higher quality. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Microcenter) CPU Cooler: MISSING Motherboard: MSI Z170A SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($132.98 @ Newegg) Video Card: 970 for now, 1080 when it is readily available Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($159.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ NCIX US) Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ NCIX US) Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ NCIX US) Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg) OS: Win 10 Pro (Free) Total: $942.91 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-20 19:40 EDT-0400 A few questions/thoughts: 1) I need assistance choosing the proper CPU cooler. I'd like to get a Corsair hydro series one but I'm unsure which one to get. I think I'd like to keep the top modular vents on the case closed for silence. 2) I decided against the Samsung 950 pro in favor of the 850 evo. It seems like the wise choice as I heard the gains in games are basically imaginary. 3) Choice of RAM was agonized over for longer than needed, I hope this was a decent choice. 4) The motherboard seems too good to be true for the price point. Goals are easy overclocking, good inbuilt quality audio, possible SLI/m.2 upgrade paths without too many unnecessary frills. NarDmw fucked around with this message at 01:02 on May 21, 2016 |
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NarDmw posted:I'd like some feedback on my coming build, it is designed to play games 1080p or 1440p@120fps and virtualbox xubuntu (as a rationalization to go 16 instead of 8gb ram) Here, I came up with a spec for you to look at: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99) CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($98.00 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI Z170A SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($132.88 @ OutletPC) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($159.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.98 @ OutletPC) Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ NCIX US) Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC) Monitor: Acer XB271HU bmiprz 165Hz 27.0" Monitor ($717.94 @ B&H) Video Card: GTX 1080 ($650.00) Total: $2379.64 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-20 20:34 EDT-0400 1) I went with the Corsair H100i v2 for the CPU cooler, it will allow you plenty of cooling for a high OC including voltage tweaking. You can mount it in the front of the R5 and move a HDD bay back a bit. One question, how many drives will you be putting in this computer? There might be better alternatives as far as cases/cooling go especially if you don't mind losing the internal DVD-RW drive or switching to an external one. 2) I changed the PSU for a EVGA GQ 750W, it's a very high quality PSU and is a bit cheaper than the G2 you had, it is semi-modular but the only thing permanently connected is the 24-pin mobo connector and that would always be needed anyway. 3) I added a nice 165Hz, 1440P, IPS Gsync monitor, it seems like just what you were looking for. 4) I alloted $650 for the GTX 1080 since you want to avoid the Founders Edition for an aftermarket one with decent cooling and power delivery instead. It's pretty clear from testing that the 1080 needs both to reach its full potential, if the good ones end up being expensive you have an extra $120 left in your budget to cover that. Anyway, I hope that helps out, good luck with your build. 
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I appreciate the input, judging from the lack of changes to my original list, it's good to know that I'm on the right track this generation of parts.
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Oh, to answer your question, I'm thinking of just one sdd (850 Pro 512gb) and one hdd (wd blue 1tb). I think the fractal r5 has ample space for those drives, so the case will be mostly empty inside.
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I'm rewarding myself for a new job and a good financial situation by indulging on a new gaming rig. It will be used for high end gaming, very likely VR, and otherwise for photo editing and web browsing. I sold my old gaming PC to a friend for $1,200 (Acer Gsync 1440p IPS 144hz monitor, Geforce 980, i7 2600k, 16gb DDR3, Corsair Carbide 240, SSD's, a bunch of other things). I'd say he got a decent deal. That money will be used to fund the new monitor for my new system. Here are the parts: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($173.00) CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($98.00 @ Amazon) Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($5.88 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($142.98 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($71.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($317.00 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Silverstone 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($94.99 @ Amazon) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) (Purchased For $0.00) Monitor: Acer Predator X34 100Hz 34.0" Monitor ($1228.96 @ Amazon) Mouse: Logitech G900 CHAOS SPECTRUM Wireless Optical Mouse ($139.99 @ Micro Center) Other: NCASE M1 (Purchased For $185.00) Other: SilverStone Technlogy Flat Flexible Short Cable Set ($29.99) Other: Geforce 1080 Founders ($700.00) Total: $3187.78 Feel free to pick it apart. Things missing: I already have a mechanical keyboard and speakers. It's a mITX build. I already ordered the NCASE M1 which is gonna take a while to get to me, so no rush in ordering the rest of the system. I'm also waiting for the Geforce 1080. No SLI on mITX, otherwise I'd go for two 1070's. I'm a little pissed that NVIDIA is charging $100 extra for the reference cooler, but I need a blower for the NCASE M1. i7 6700k will be bought through a friend who works at Intel, for about $20 more than the i5 6600k. This will be overclocked as far as it will go. Hence the Corsair H110i which is the largest closed loop water cooler that will fit the NCASE M1. Things missing: I already have a mechanical keyboard and speakers. Questions: Are the Samsung 950 m.2 SSD drives good and fast enough to justify the price over regular SATA SSD's? Or is it just ePeen? I have an extra Samsung 840 750GB SSD that I was thinking of using to dual boot a Hackintosh. But if the 950 is a waste of money, I could just use the Samsung 840 and something else, or partition it. The elephant in the room: THE MONITOR. Yes, it's expensive. I have the option of buying it refurbished for $999, but the last time I bought a refurbished monitor it has quite a few dead pixels. I am very attracted to the idea of ultra wide because I like the extra perspective and I hate gaming on multi-monitors because of the bezels. Also a friend uses an ultra wide monitor for photo editing and it seems like its great for it (plenty of room for menus without obstructing the images you are working on, original image and edited image side by side, etc.) I got spoiled by 144hz and G-Sync with my last monitor and I don't think I could go back to a 60hz panel. And TN panels are out of the question. The Geforce 1080 seems fast enough to drive 3440 x 1440 at 60FPS+ so no concerns there. It seems like IPS, 1440p G-Sync monitors are only a few hundred bucks cheaper, so might as well go balls to the wall. Is there anything else I should be looking at? Is 4K a better option? Anything coming up that I should wait for? Should I take this to the monitor thread? Thanks for the help! edit: fixed formatting. Animal fucked around with this message at 02:38 on May 21, 2016 |
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Animal posted:I'm rewarding myself for a new job and a good financial situation by indulging on a new gaming rig. It will be used for high end gaming, very likely VR, and otherwise for photo editing and web browsing. I sold my old gaming PC to a friend for $1,200 (Acer Gsync 1440p IPS 144hz monitor, Geforce 980, i7 2600k, 16gb DDR3, Corsair Carbide 240, SSD's, a bunch of other things). I'd say he got a decent deal. That money will be used to fund the new monitor for my new system. Here are the parts: One change I would make is the PSU, Corsair makes a couple very good SFX PSUs with flat cables for close to the same price with far longer warranties. The 950 Pro is also overkill, better to get a larger SSD if possible or spend the money elsewhere. BTW, you should use the [bb] button above your list to link the build, your link is to the list in your account and cannot be edited by anyone else. AVeryLargeRadish fucked around with this message at 02:38 on May 21, 2016 |
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Animal posted:I'm rewarding myself for a new job and a good financial situation by indulging on a new gaming rig. It will be used for high end gaming, very likely VR, and otherwise for photo editing and web browsing. I sold my old gaming PC to a friend for $1,200 (Acer Gsync 1440p IPS 144hz monitor, Geforce 980, i7 2600k, 16gb DDR3, Corsair Carbide 240, SSD's, a bunch of other things). I'd say he got a decent deal. That money will be used to fund the new monitor for my new system. Here are the parts: I can tell you that from my research it seems that the samsung 950 pro doesn't have anything really to offer over the samsung 850 evo for boot and game load times. It was a hard choice for me to make as well to say no to new tech, but it earned some savings by dropping to a regular 2.5" ssd.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:One change I would make is the PSU, Corsair makes a couple very good SFX PSUs with flat cables for close to the same price with far longer warranties. The 950 Pro is also overkill, better to get a larger SSD if possible or spend the money elsewhere. Thanks, fixed. I chose the Silverstone because it's recommended by NCASE for the M1 case, and they have a kit with short flexible cables for small cases. Normally I am a HUGE Seasonic fanboy and don't even look elsewhere, so I don't know if Silverstone is not a good brand. I'll look into the Corsairs. NarDmw posted:I can tell you that from my research it seems that the samsung 950 pro doesn't have anything really to offer over the samsung 850 evo for boot and game load times. It was a hard choice for me to make as well to say no to new tech, but it earned some savings by dropping to a regular 2.5" ssd. Good to know. Same feeling here, saying no to new tech (in a sweet new socket!) is very hard. But while I can afford to splurge on a high budget, I'm not gonna waste money for the sake of it. Dropping the m.2 drive will bring the total to under $3,000 which makes me feel less like a pathetic neckbeard.
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Animal posted:Thanks, fixed. The Silverstones are great and were more or less the only decent SFX PSUs in the game for a few years, however, the Corsairs just came out and have been getting stellar reviews.
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VulgarandStupid posted:The Silverstones are great and were more or less the only decent SFX PSUs in the game for a few years, however, the Corsairs just came out and have been getting stellar reviews. Awesome, thanks. Here is the new part list: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($173.00 from my uncle at Nintendo) CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($98.00 @ Amazon) Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($5.88 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($142.98 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($71.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 750GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Previously owned) Power Supply: Corsair SF 600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Amazon) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) (Previously owned) Monitor: Acer Predator X34 100Hz 34.0" Monitor ($1228.96 @ Amazon) Mouse: Logitech G900 CHAOS SPECTRUM Wireless Optical Mouse ($139.99 @ Micro Center) Speakers: M-Audio Studiophile AV40 40W 2ch Speakers (Previously owned) Other: NCASE M1 (Purchased For $185.00) Other: CODE Mechanical Keyboard (Purchased) Other: NVIDIA Geforce 1080 Founders Edition ($700.00) Total: $2865.79 Animal fucked around with this message at 03:02 on May 21, 2016 |
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Animal posted:Awesome, thanks. Here is the new part list: Looks good to me, also good choice on the speakers, I have the same ones.
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NarDmw posted:Oh, to answer your question, I'm thinking of just one sdd (850 Pro 512gb) and one hdd (wd blue 1tb). I think the fractal r5 has ample space for those drives, so the case will be mostly empty inside. If that's the case, why not go mATX and save yourself some space? There's really no reason not to. Also I have a quick question. My desktop speakers - the volume is quite low, and I've turned up all the settings I can. Is there a small (and preferably cheap) amplifier that'd work well? The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 03:14 on May 21, 2016 |
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The Iron Rose posted:If that's the case, why not go mATX and save yourself some space? There's really no reason not to. Probably because he wants both a 240mm AIO in front and an optical drive, I'm not sure there are all that many sound dampened mATX cases that would fit that set of requirements.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Probably because he wants both a 240mm AIO in front and an optical drive, I'm not sure there are all that many sound dampened mATX cases that would fit that set of requirements. Doh  Also I have a quick question. My desktop speakers - the volume is quite low, and I've turned up all the settings I can. Is there a small (and preferably cheap) amplifier that'd work well?
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The Iron Rose posted:Doh Sorry, no idea on that, the built in amp in my speakers is more than enough so I have never had to look at one.
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Ageofbob posted:PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant Here is a better build: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($255.75 @ shopRBC) Motherboard: ASRock H170M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($119.75 @ Vuugo) Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($37.59 @ DirectCanada) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($107.98 @ DirectCanada) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Canada Computers) Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB AMP! Omega Core Edition Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg Canada) Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($52.35 @ Vuugo) Power Supply: Thermaltake 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.88 @ Canada Computers) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($105.98 @ Newegg Canada) Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($44.99 @ Canada Computers) Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($173.35 @ Vuugo) Keyboard: Cooler Master Devastator II Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($38.99 @ Newegg Canada) Total: $1466.59 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-20 22:32 EDT-0400 I'm assuming you are doing this as a gaming PC, yes? If so the CPU in the build you posted is overkill for you, the one here ought to be plenty and costs a lot less. I also changed the motherboard and RAM to match. I changed pretty much everything else to be cheaper, better or both. You might want to hold off for a bit if you can, both Nvidia and AMD have new cards coming out in the next few weeks which are going to greatly lower the cost of the older cards.
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quote:I'm assuming you are doing this as a gaming PC, yes? If so the CPU in the build you posted is overkill for you, the one here ought to be plenty and costs a lot less. I also changed the motherboard and RAM to match. I changed pretty much everything else to be cheaper, better or both. yesgamessorryWowzers, 200 bucks gone and a better build, thank you very much! I would hold off but I know I don't have the mental fortitude to stop myself from spending my tax return on dumb poo poo.
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May 21, 2016 03:56
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Probably because he wants both a 240mm AIO in front and an optical drive, I'm not sure there are all that many sound dampened mATX cases that would fit that set of requirements. Yeah, I'd like an AIO (size doesn't matter)/sound dampening/1x optical drive. A micro ATX case would be lighter, smaller, and better, but I don't think that exists. I'm open to suggestions though. Also the board is ATX form factor, and I can't find another z170 board that'd fit my requirements of good audio codec, with m.2/sli upgrade paths at that price point.
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May 21, 2016 03:57
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Looks good to me, also good choice on the speakers, I have the same ones. I *LOVE* those M-Audio! Got them off a recommendation on this thread back in 2012. Very well worth it. I ordered the monitor because I found a good deal tax free, and I can at least use it with my laptop. I'll order the rest of the parts once I get the case and CPU. Thank you so much for your help, you helped me save money on SSD, choosing a better PSU, and a better motherboard.
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May 21, 2016 04:45
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I suppose this is a pc part building question. For some dumb reason I decided to go the X99 route with a 5820k. I'll spare you too many details, but three mobos, two ram changes, and 2 cpu's later, I have a somewhat functioning system. This has been such a nightmare, that I am willing to take a loss and straight up go for a Skylake platform. Would I see any benefit at all going from a 5820k to a 6700k? I'm currently using 16gb DDR4 in quad channel, I play games, I do programming, I do sound editing, and that's about it. I figure I could sell the processor, motherboard, extra ram I have, and a liquid cooler that wouldn't fit my case, and have enough to make up for the loss and go with a 6700k. My main reason for wanting to do this is I am of the assumption that quality control for the X99 platform is utter poo poo, this is the only PC building experience that has been nothing but a flat-out nightmare, and it's been too long for Newegg to let me refund or rma the majority of these parts. I also like the fact that the 6700k consumes less energy. Thoughts?
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May 21, 2016 04:57
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The 6700K is probably going to have a small lead in single-threaded performance depending on the clocks you're running at, and a lot of the Z170 motherboards have some brand new features like slots for PCIe M.2 SSDs or Thunderbolt 3 or whatever that are less common in X99. The power consumption is not realistically going to be that different except maybe under load though.
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May 21, 2016 05:02
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Eletriarnation posted:The 6700K is probably going to have a small lead in single-threaded performance depending on the clocks you're running at, and a lot of the Z170 motherboards have some brand new features like slots for PCIe M.2 SSDs or Thunderbolt 3 or whatever that are less common in X99. The power consumption is not realistically going to be that different except maybe under load though. I have support for M2, etc. but single-threaded performance matters a lot to me as I program for a mostly single-threaded game. Basically I'm figuring that I have a 5820k cpu, Crosair H100i, 4x 4gb DDR4 3000, 3x 8gb DDR4 3000 (1 stick was bad), MSI Carbon Godlike gaming mobo, and even a functioning MSI X99A SLI PLUS mobo, all of which I could sell and come out ahead buying a 6700k, compatible RAM, and an ASROCK mobo. Basically I'm ready to throw up over the amount of money I've spent on this pc, so I figure I might come out ahead getting a 6700k and selling my current stuff, with very little performance difference I hope.
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May 21, 2016 05:25
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Don't you stop running in dual channel mode with three sticks?
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May 21, 2016 06:12
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Finally put together enough cash to do this. The goal here is a quiet and relatively small gaming box that will help me catch up on the last 10 years of games. I'll also be playing WoW, and probably FFXIV at some point. What country are you in? USA. What are you using the system for? Gaming exclusively. What's your budget? $1,000 total. Not buying a GPU at this time -- waiting to see what happens with the new AMD cards. I've budgeted ~$300 for the GPU. If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? 1920 x 1080. Here's what I've put together: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz) CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler Motherboard: MSI H170I Pro AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($118.99 @ SuperBiiz) Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($159.99 @ Newegg) Case: Fractal Design Define Nano S Mini ITX Desktop Case ($64.99 @ NCIX US) Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($61.00 @ Newegg) Case Fan: Fractal Design GP14-WT 68.4 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ NCIX US) Total: $671.94 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-21 01:21 EDT-0400 Some things to note: I picked the MSI board over the ASRock board because of the M.2 slot, even though I'm not using it. I would like to have it as a future option. I also like how the board looks. Same with the RAM - it was something like $6.00 extra for better looking RAM. I know the windowed case isn't as quiet as the non-windowed, but I am a literal manchild who wants to light up his case with LED strips. I know it's stupid, but I love it anyway. I already have a Windows 10 key ready. I'm aware of the need for a 3-way fan splitter. Any thoughts? I've been watching this thread pretty closely, and I think my choices are on the mark, but I'd like to verify it before I hit the buy button.
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TheMadMilkman posted:Finally put together enough cash to do this. The goal here is a quiet and relatively small gaming box that will help me catch up on the last 10 years of games. I'll also be playing WoW, and probably FFXIV at some point. Looks fine to me, and just so you know the windowed panel makes almost no difference as far as sound deadening goes, and that is according to Fractal themselves from their testing, it's because sound does not propagate well through the plexi used in most case windows.
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