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Yes but you'll at least remember basic concepts like "oh poo poo this is admissible."
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Evidence wasn't required for us either, but I don't know anyone who actually went into practicing law that didn't take it.
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I took evidence with a really tough professor who made everyone in the back row (me) sit in the front row and cold called for answers. To the extent I'm worth a drat as an attorney, it's what I learned in that class.
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Evidence wasn't technically required for me but we were required to take a clinic and it was a pre-req for all the clinics except 1 or 2.
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May 21, 2016 01:01
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All the evidence I learned I learned in the courtroom after being hosed over by a rule. Anger keeps me going and sharp
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Evidence: judges let in whatever the gently caress they feel like
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mastershakeman posted:Evidence: judges let in whatever the gently caress they feel like The main thing I remember from my evidence class is my professor saying "your dream as a young lawyer is to stand up and say 'objection' and for the judge to say 'sustained' and for you to have absolutely no idea why"
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My evidence class opened with the prof says "evidence is really subjective, so we're having an objective final"
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gently caress admin law. gently caress SallyAnne Payton (no idea if that is really her name, but that's how I remember it). Evidence owns though, take evidence. Your professor will pronounce your classmate's name ("Regina") to rhyme with vagina. At least that's the case in my experience. E: also take Bloodfeuds. That poo poo owns. If your law school doesn't offer a class on dark ages Scandinavians resolving disputes by murdering each other, WAYSA? gvibes fucked around with this message at 04:09 on May 21, 2016 |
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Article about the attorney in Texas you guys were talking about is heartbreaking. His son was set to be married in a couple of weeks.  http://forward.com/news/national/340881/who-was-prominent-dallas-lawyer-ira-tobolowsky-and-did-jihad-man-want-him-d/
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I know one of the sons and they really don't come off as Jewish
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That's like my crim law prof that was iced in his driveway. It's a cold case now, iirc. Professional hit and no leads.
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I hope I'm murdered as a result of my career. It'll give my son something to avenge, other than high cholesterol and heart disease.
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Really, just take anything with William Ian Miller, the pride of Green Bay.
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I'm currently sitting in my graduation ceremony and I've decided to not pursue Law School thanks to this thread. The lady next to me is taking LSAT Prep Questions on her phone while we all wait for our names to be called.
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Shouldn't she have already taken? Law school right after college is the worst - employers care so much about prior professional work experience which you can't get in college. You could at least bum around abroad for a year and have interesting stories that would make you interview better than being a kjd.
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Mr. Nice! posted:That's like my crim law prof that was iced in his driveway. It's a cold case now, iirc. Professional hit and no leads. I'm still blown away by this. I had him for crim law as well and a couple of people I work with went to law school with him.
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mikeraskol posted:I'm still blown away by this. I had him for crim law as well and a couple of people I work with went to law school with him. It's nuts to me, too. For those that don't know what we're talking about http://www.people.com/article/one-year-later-question-remains-who-shot-florida-law-professor-dan-markel
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mikeraskol posted:I'm still blown away by this. I had him for crim law as well and a couple of people I work with went to law school with him. You're nyc biglaw and went to FSU? Is that a rarity?
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:You're nyc biglaw and went to FSU? Is that a rarity? I did my first year at FSU and then transferred to NYU. It's definitely a rarity to see anyone from FSU in NYC, the only other person I know also did the FSU to NYU thing in the same year as me. mikeraskol fucked around with this message at 01:22 on May 23, 2016 |
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Lol https://youtu.be/C7h7uevwxt8
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I've seen that. The comments are gold, even for youtube. Huuum: Same judge and attorney: http://www.local10.com/news/broward-county-judge-lashes-out-at-defense-attorney nm fucked around with this message at 02:33 on May 23, 2016 |
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Sov: "May I post bond Sir???" Dude laughing from the back: "Nooope".
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I get an intern today. I have a bunch of busy work for him, some of which is meaningful. Current students, what helps you the most - writing samples, discovery writing, going to court, just chilling?
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I get an intern today. I have a bunch of busy work for him, some of which is meaningful. Current students, what helps you the most - writing samples, discovery writing, going to court, just chilling? All of those have been helpful in one way or another. If I was to rank them I'd say discovery writing, court, just chilling, and writing sample. Writing sample is last because they already have something from class work they can use and while a work product is better they only need one. Just make sure it's kept around 5 pages, some places have limits.
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I get an intern today. I have a bunch of busy work for him, some of which is meaningful. Current students, what helps you the most - writing samples, discovery writing, going to court, just chilling? slowly ramping up the crushing feelings of despair and helplessness.
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I got a couple hours of court tomorrow then am fuckin jettin off to play Warhammer and no one can stop me. yeahhhhh professional class
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Hi all! I apologize if this has been answered recently, I didnt see anything. My wife, a 12-year attorney, and I are moving to Washington from California, as soon as she can get a job. She is licensed to practice in both states. So far, I've been checking lawcrossing and legaljobs, but the positions available seem scant, especially considering she has years of experience in 4 or 5 fields. Any advice to help me hone this search would be appreciated. My wife says that, in the past, she's used a service to find her a job. However, her most recent use of such a service was over a decade ago. Is this still a thing? Would you recommend it, and which ones are good? Hey, thanks a bunch for any information you could provide. We've been looking for two months, and it still feels like we're on square 1. We are quite flexible when it comes to clocation, just as long as its in Western WA Drunk Nerds fucked around with this message at 18:50 on May 23, 2016 |
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Network network network. Have her join the local bar association, get on all the ad litem/criminal/whatever she does appointment lists, go to all the bar functions, invite local attorneys to lunch, the fuckung works. Send letters to small firms, introducing herself and explaining her move. Maybe hang out a shingle to get started and buy her a $19 domain name, and just rent office space on an hourly basis for consults or client meetings, and meet clients at the Courthouse and stuff. 12 years is too long to be volunteering to intern anywhere I think, but as a last ditch resort, maybe.
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Drunk Nerds posted:Hi all! I'd look into legal recruiters. What's her actual experience? Solo, at a firm, or what? Lawcrossing and legaljobs strike me as pretty bottom-tier stuff and that any good jobs won't show up there.
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terrorist ambulance posted:the guys in the back are the real stars of this video nm posted:I've seen that. The comments are gold, even for youtube. So there are always a bunch of "wake up sheeple" comments claiming that sovcit poo poo works and YouTube is just keeping those videos down, but they never post links. Do they have anything besides videos of cops who let obviously sober idiots go through checkpoints without showing ID, or is that the extent of flesh and blood traveler victories? Does anyone have a courtroom video of a sovcit winning anything? Is there something besides crackpot blogs that shows them prevailing on anything substantive?
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Phil Moscowitz posted:So there are always a bunch of "wake up sheeple" comments claiming that sovcit poo poo works and YouTube is just keeping those videos down, but they never post links. Do they have anything besides videos of cops who let obviously sober idiots go through checkpoints without showing ID, or is that the extent of flesh and blood traveler victories? Does anyone have a courtroom video of a sovcit winning anything? Is there something besides crackpot blogs that shows them prevailing on anything substantive? Sovereign citizens have won cases, but never because they are sovereign citizens. Being sovereign citizens they don't understand the distinction.
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Yeah there's probably a couple cases where the prosecution has just withdrawn its case rather than proceed because the case is lovely anyways where someone is running sov cit bullshit. One stay like that could be enough for them to figure they've got the system beat no matter what contradictory evidence is presented to them (up to and including being thrown in jail, as that video shows)
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Whenever a sovereign citizens plan / utterance of magic words fails and ends up crushing in on them and making the situation worse, a true believer at that point just thinks they must have uttered the wrong words in the wrong sequence and will endlessly replay that instead of learning anything. Its also so shameful to admit one has been deeply misled into stupidity that they will create a cocoon where they disregard all evidence for a while, even if they later accept the truth and usually are meek/never heard of again.
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blarzgh posted:Network network network. Have her join the local bar association, get on all the ad litem/criminal/whatever she does appointment lists, go to all the bar functions, invite local attorneys to lunch, the fuckung works. As a law student one approach I had to networking also was to just message attorneys on linkedin for a phone call or coffee
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evilweasel posted:I'd look into legal recruiters. What's her actual experience? Solo, at a firm, or what? Lawcrossing and legaljobs strike me as pretty bottom-tier stuff and that any good jobs won't show up there. Great questions, thanks! She's been at firms her whole career, usually fairly large ones, always defense. She currently does premises liability for a nationwide chain, habitability/landlord tenant, Construction defect, some professional liability. What are some good legal recruiter services? blarzgh posted:Network network network. Have her join the local bar association, get on all the ad litem/criminal/whatever she does appointment lists, go to all the bar functions, invite local attorneys to lunch, the fuckung works. This seems like sound advice, thanks, but I'm not sure how to apply it to our specific situation. We live in Southern California, and she's looking for a job in Washington state, so bar functions and local attorney and all that seems... unfeasible? We aren't moving until she has a job. A letter blast to small firms sounds good, how would we obtain contact information and for what should we search? Drunk Nerds fucked around with this message at 03:40 on May 24, 2016 |
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Drunk Nerds posted:Great questions, thanks! She's been at firms her whole career, usually fairly large ones, always defense. She currently does premises liability for a nationwide chain, habitability/landlord tenant, Construction defect, some professional liability. Amazon has about a billion compliance / general counsel jobs open right now. I think they're in Seattle? A lawgoon just got a job there, I think, and one of my law school friends got a job there about a year ago. https://www.amazon.jobs/en/job_categories/legal HiddenReplaced fucked around with this message at 04:14 on May 24, 2016 |
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