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On 3.5 playthroughs I don't think I've not gotten one from my first kill. I thought it was a guaranteed drop off the one that attacks after the Cathedral zombie graves area.
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Tallgeese posted:I wouldn't bother, it's probably full to the brim with hacker trolls and other bullshit. Not really. There was a Gatsu with a halberd/curved sword/etc but that was solved by never summoning him again. 
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May 21, 2016 21:04
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RyokoTK posted:Uchigatana from the Sword Master just wrecks pretty much everything, and has bleed to boot which is fun. Sellsword Twinblade and Warden Twinblade both dominate now that they were buffed, although the latter is really loving annoying to farm so unless you want to do dex/luck for bleed I would just not bother. The Carthus Curved Sword is also great/amazing, so is the corvian scythe. Strangely enough if you Sharp infuse a weapon with very good str scaling, it will turn into very good dex scaling. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 21:17 on May 21, 2016 |
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May 21, 2016 21:13
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I think it only leans dex but I don't see drang twin spears that much and I think I have more trouble fighting them in PVP than anything else.
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May 21, 2016 21:44
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Tokyo Sex Whale posted:I think it only leans dex but I don't see drang twin spears that much and I think I have more trouble fighting them in PVP than anything else. They get D/C to start, E/B with Sharp.
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May 21, 2016 22:13
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so it really seems like you can't get the skeletons to kill anri in a seeded world anymore i guess the host having less than every advantage possible is just too awful a thought to consider
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May 21, 2016 22:13
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Yes how terrible you can no longer ruin someone's questline for the rest of their playthrough. Horror of horrors.
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May 21, 2016 22:15
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I finally just did a summon on sl1 pontiff. He did die halfway through though but I finally got past it. I would use a crossbow on his first phase then a raw longsword with flame arc. The problem was I couldn't do enough damage to kill the clone when it spawned though I was close. If I did kill it I simply ran out of the stamina I needed to survive his 10 hit combo or whatever he does at the end.
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May 21, 2016 22:24
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Might as well use the souls to level up now that you cheated on your sl1 run imo
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May 21, 2016 22:25
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Melanion posted:Yes how terrible you can no longer ruin someone's questline for the rest of their playthrough. Horror of horrors. this is the dumbest thing you could have possibly said so gratz
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May 21, 2016 22:26
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GulagDolls posted:this is the dumbest thing you could have possibly said so gratz actually he's right, it's fun to gently caress with a host for one life but potentially ruining a long term goal just makes you an rear end in a top hat, not funny.
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May 21, 2016 22:34
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I'm having fun playing this. The pvp is alright but I feel a lot of people's issues with it would be fixed if red phantoms got something better than 500 ish souls for beating a phantom. I went faith build with double blessed infusion and sun princess ring and it's pretty fun for pve and rat pvp also went with dragon slayers Cresent axe. All in all I would give this game a 7 out of 10. It's better than 2 but I had more fun with 1 because nostalgia also it was the first one I played.
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May 21, 2016 22:35
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Why are people so bad at fighting Dragonslayer Armor. I dont get it.
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May 21, 2016 22:39
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Finally finished out all the covenants. Time to actually level and beat some bosses! I knocked out both wolfbro and aldrich over the course of last night and this morning. For others trying: Wolfbro had pretty constant summoning at 27 with +3 weapons. Aldrich had non-stop summoning (I would return to my world only to immediately be summoned again) at 34 and +4. I probably had a 80% success rate on invasions just using crossbow + Astora Straight Sword. For Estocs I kept a Caestus and beat them to death with it like another poster here was saying. Parry their spam and when they try to parry, just punch them in face.
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May 21, 2016 22:46
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I'm terrible at dodging the shield for some reason
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May 21, 2016 22:46
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GulagDolls posted:this is the dumbest thing you could have possibly said so gratz Are you actually surprised that someone objects to this because "I can't permanently gently caress over singleplayer games anymore without cheating"  has got to be the pinnacle of invader tears.
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May 21, 2016 22:55
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Just so we're clear, it's impossible to save Greirat from his Lothric expedition right? Because he just died in my game and I never bought the armor off of patches AND I informed patches of the destination. At this point I don't know what other elements could impact this.
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May 21, 2016 22:58
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Stokes posted:Why are people so bad at fighting Dragonslayer Armor. I dont get it. His weapon arc's much bigger than you'd think.I've seen a lot of people caught off-guard by that massive bastard two-hand attack he does, and the sneaky shield slam after getting knocked down.
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May 21, 2016 23:00
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RabidWeasel posted:Why are claws so incredibly slow and weak, look how cool they are In DS2 I ran a dual-Claw build with bleed (or maybe poison) infusion and full Dragon Covenant loadout - it was basically Shredder. Every single thing about it either doesn't exist in DS3 or is hilariously worse - it's like I had the perfect build of stuff-that-will-never-work-again. Sivlan posted:Finally finished out all the covenants. Time to actually level and beat some bosses! How old is your steam account, just for reference?
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May 21, 2016 23:01
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Digirat posted:Are you actually surprised that someone objects to this because "I can't permanently gently caress over singleplayer games anymore without cheating" It's not a singleplayer game if he can invade, you dolt.
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May 21, 2016 23:08
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Genocyber posted:It's not a singleplayer game if he can invade, you dolt. It still doesn't mean an invader is supposed to be able to screw over questlines. They're supposed to be able kill the host and take his ember. That's literally the extent of "what invading is for".
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May 21, 2016 23:09
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Chard posted:actually he's right, it's fun to gently caress with a host for one life but potentially ruining a long term goal just makes you an rear end in a top hat, not funny. 1. it actually is funny when someone's strat backfires. 2 lol being an rear end in a top hat is entirely part of invasion and always has been. as if standing at the bonfire with a gank squad and seeding your world isn't an rear end in a top hat move somehow? killing npcs of other worlds is a time-honored tradition Digirat posted:Are you actually surprised that someone objects to this because "I can't permanently gently caress over singleplayer games anymore without cheating" ummmmm yes there should be some percentage of risk to using the item that nukes the one advantage invaders have, instead of, 0 percent. people have thrown around the idea of using the seed making it possible for white/gold/hosts to hit each other. that would be good too. as of now the only thing you can do is lead an ineffectual mmo train back to the host but that's actually impossible in the catacombs and probably other areas. GulagDolls fucked around with this message at 23:12 on May 21, 2016 |
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May 21, 2016 23:09
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Tokyo Sex Whale posted:Might as well use the souls to level up now that you cheated on your sl1 run imo How is that cheating? That makes no sense. The point is to finish the game without leveling, that's it. I tried my best, but after five hours or whatever I didn't really give a poo poo anymore. On the other hand, why is that boss so hard but Aldrich so easy? 3rd try - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15OpdMJG4Qs
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May 21, 2016 23:12
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I am generally in favor of invading and thing that hosts have too many advantages in DS3 but even I think "I can't break someone else's rather fragile/obscure questline in a way they can't fix anymore " is a loving stupid thing to complain about holy poo poo. It should be harder for hosts to chump invaders with phantoms and constant running away but come the gently caress on, people.
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May 21, 2016 23:12
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DatonKallandor posted:In DS2 I ran a dual-Claw build with bleed (or maybe poison) infusion and full Dragon Covenant loadout - it was basically Shredder. My steam account? I dunno, ancient. But I'm playing this on PS4.
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May 21, 2016 23:12
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Harrow posted:I am generally in favor of invading and thing that hosts have too many advantages in DS3 but even I think "I can't break someone else's rather fragile/obscure questline in a way they can't fix anymore Having the ability to do that would be worth the trade of having things heavily stacked against the invader imo. If you really don't want to risk that then just play offline.
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May 21, 2016 23:17
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actionjackson posted:How is that cheating? That makes no sense. The point is to finish the game without leveling, that's it. I tried my best, but after five hours or whatever I didn't really give a poo poo anymore. Because you used someone else leveling up. If you're going to loophole your way through it, why bother in the first place.
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May 21, 2016 23:17
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Sloppy Milkshake posted:Because you used someone else leveling up. If you're going to loophole your way through it, why bother in the first place. because it's possible. E-honor is for posers. Do what is fun for you shall be the whole of the law.
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May 21, 2016 23:20
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Genocyber posted:Having the ability to do that would be worth the trade of having things heavily stacked against the invader imo. If you really don't want to risk that then just play offline. I also agree that new players should be vulnerable to having their questlines ruined because they weren't prescient enough to know which areas to play offline.
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May 21, 2016 23:21
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Genocyber posted:Having the ability to do that would be worth the trade of having things heavily stacked against the invader imo. If you really don't want to risk that then just play offline. No, gently caress that. If a player ruins a questline in an unfixable way, it should be due to something the player did, not because they dared to play online in an area where invaders who are more knowledgeable can grief them. I'm all for invaders loving with players in fixable ways--y'know, like killing them, or closing a shortcut they opened (can you still interact with levers and stuff?), that kind of thing. Invaders are definitely supposed to be funny dicks and in DS3 the deck is definitely stacked too much in the host's favor, but "lock someone out of an ending because they were unlucky enough to get invaded in this zone" is just bullshit. I want mechanics that encourage people to play online and be invaded, not discourage it.
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May 21, 2016 23:24
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Sloppy Milkshake posted:Because you used someone else leveling up. If you're going to loophole your way through it, why bother in the first place. *commits seppuku*
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Mzbundifund posted:I also agree that new players should be vulnerable to having their questlines ruined because they weren't prescient enough to know which areas to play offline. There's a reason ng+ is a thing and you get 10 save slots.
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May 21, 2016 23:27
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Genocyber posted:There's a reason ng+ is a thing and you get 10 save slots. Not everyone wants to play through the game more than once This is a very silly thing to complain about I seriously can't believe the idea that invaders shouldn't be able to permanently gently caress you over in some way beyond killing you is at all controversial. Regy Rusty fucked around with this message at 23:32 on May 21, 2016 |
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May 21, 2016 23:28
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Harrow posted:No, gently caress that. If a player ruins a questline in an unfixable way, it should be due to something the player did they did do something, they used the item that makes enemies aggro on the invader. you couldn't get anri killed as an invader unless the host did that. also who tf cares about questlines in a souls game. game has three endings Harrow posted:
ok but i seriously doubt they're going to do anything about that, so as of now this is just, further stacking the deck in the host's favor. i dont have a desire to """""""""""ruin"""""""" other peoples games but, it's just annoying that the one thing you could do to punish seeding in this one specific area no longer exists, partially because any enemies you kite will get killed by the boulder, and also because it would seem to be an indicator of from's view on invasions now (the deck is stacked..just...right)
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May 21, 2016 23:33
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Regy Rusty posted:
haha say hello to the scraping spear
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May 21, 2016 23:33
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Regy Rusty posted:Not everyone wants to play through the game more than once You don't have to. But neither are you entitled to all of the game's content if you make that choice. I know gamers are supposed to be entitled babies but c'mon.
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May 21, 2016 23:33
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Yep, it's the hosts idea to use the giant seed and they get to reap the consequences. Honestly giant seeds gently caress over hosts more than help them, because you can train mobs into the bonfire. Too bad there aren't other ways to use it against them.
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May 21, 2016 23:35
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Genocyber posted:You don't have to. But neither are you entitled to all of the game's content if you make that choice. I don't think it's "entitled" to not want to be griefed in a game that's already pretty tough with quests that are already easy enough to gently caress up. GulagDolls posted:haha say hello to the scraping spear You can repair broken equipment in Demon's Souls, can't you? It just takes souls. There's nothing permanent about that. Scraping Spear was great. That's the kind of poo poo I like. It doesn't permanently gently caress you unless you choose to play through again, it's just really annoying and hilarious for the invader.
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May 21, 2016 23:37
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Genocyber posted:You don't have to. But neither are you entitled to all of the game's content if you make that choice. lol if you think you're not on the entitled baby side in this argument.
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GulagDolls posted:so it really seems like you can't get the skeletons to kill anri in a seeded world anymore host advantages are excessive but lol if you think "you can't break the other person's entire playthrough" is part of the problem
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