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Ramsay is the John Cena of Westeros
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May 21, 2016 15:31
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A lot of the achievements for the Boltons could be mostly due to Roose. He constantly showed a strong sense in both military and political matters. He hasn't been gone long enough for Ramsay to screw everything up.
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May 21, 2016 15:42
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I'm not sure how they would pull this off because for years now Dany has been bitching about wanting to take back her rightful throne, BUT I think it would be cool for Dany to finally come to Westeros with her invading army of dragons and Dothraki and, I dunno, saves the day from the White Walkers. At the end of it all, the people say "Yay Dany, you are our Queen!" and she just goes "uhh. Westeros sucks and I have work to do in Essos". Then Drogon melts down the Iron Throne, Dany declares the 7 kingdoms to be independent again and she fucks off to conquer the East. So she is basically a reverse-Aegon the Conquerer. I think this would match with her "Break the wheel" speech. I also want to see King's Landing destroyed because gently caress everyone who lives there.
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May 21, 2016 16:04
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Interesting tidbit regarding Ramsay's letter from the Bald Move podcast: When Littlefinger presents his gift to Robin, he says "Come and see what I've brought you!" Could just be coincidence, but I can definitely see Littlefinger provoking Jon into war with Ramsay as part of his schemes to put himself on the Iron Throne. More chaos = more opportunities to climb further up the ladder, after all.
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May 21, 2016 17:49
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he's gonna die to some random arrow and the drama will be all about the karstarks not really wanting to fight anyway
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May 21, 2016 18:35
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Asmodai_00 posted:Ramsay is the John Cena of Westeros Surely he's more akin to the family annihilator, Chris Benoit?
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May 21, 2016 18:43
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Mide posted:A lot of the achievements for the Boltons could be mostly due to Roose. He constantly showed a strong sense in both military and political matters. He hasn't been gone long enough for Ramsay to screw everything up. Basically this. I mean, Ramsay was an interesting character for me so long as he had other individuals with whom he had to interact and also factor into his wants and desires (as hosed up as they are). Roose was that character. I hoped Myranda and her jealousy would be too (in screwing things up for the Bolton's designs for Sansa), but nah - ultimately there she was just a good little psycho girl for enforcing his will until the end. Now with Roose gone...I seriously hope there'll be more of the Karstark lord and the Umber lord tugging in their own directions and making Ramsay have something to factor internally, because that to me is interesting (as to how a psychopath sadist has to show at least a bit of basic consideration and restraint, or everything just falls apart). But yea, if those two folks (as well as the Manderleys whom we still haven't seen) just go full out: "Yes, my liege! Whom shall we torture today mwahahahaha!" then yea...he's pretty much confirmed become full-out boring bad writing evil Gary Stu up until his end.
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May 21, 2016 18:48
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Roose was actually shown doing very little in the show, he collaborated with Tywin and Walder Frey in the Red Wedding but we're led to believe the whole thing was Tywin's plan, in the book Roose's treachery begins well before the Red Wedding but in the show he isn't shown doing much to compromise Robb's campaign until he turns his cloak, but still let's chalk it up to a good move on his part. Afterwards it's Ramsay who uses Theon to take Moat Cailin and practically drives the Iron Born away from the north, subsequently Ramsay also proves himself to be a military mastermind as he smashes Stannis' forces with both guile and ruthlessness while Roose was advocating a ridiculously cowardly strategy against a far inferior fighting force himself. Ramsay is a loving rock star, he's king midas, the only setback he's had in years was Sansa and Theon escaping from his clutches and that doesn't really seem to phase him either. He's a Golden God, Roose was a savage idiot by comparison.
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May 21, 2016 19:17
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C-SPAN Caller posted:I didn't even want Clegane Bowl that much but now I want it so bad now same
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May 21, 2016 21:22
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Disgusting Coward posted:Ramsay, by contrast, is the indestructible, totally unconcerned superbaddy, nothing bad ever happens to him and when kinda-bad stuff happens he doesn't give a gently caress anyway and he never really interacts with anyone and he's killing and maiming for no particular reason and his house seems to be truckin' along quite nice with no problems, they win every battle and are super ninjas who can infiltrate anything and it's just kinda tedious and is Bad Writing. The only reason Ramsay appeared indestructible was because his brashness and over-the-top sadism were kept in check by Roose. Now that Roose is gone, though... Slow News Day fucked around with this message at 21:30 on May 21, 2016 |
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May 21, 2016 21:26
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Roose was actually shown doing very little in the show, he collaborated with Tywin and Walder Frey in the Red Wedding but we're led to believe the whole thing was Tywin's plan, in the book Roose's treachery begins well before the Red Wedding but in the show he isn't shown doing much to compromise Robb's campaign until he turns his cloak, but still let's chalk it up to a good move on his part. Afterwards it's Ramsay who uses Theon to take Moat Cailin and practically drives the Iron Born away from the north, subsequently Ramsay also proves himself to be a military mastermind as he smashes Stannis' forces with both guile and ruthlessness while Roose was advocating a ridiculously cowardly strategy against a far inferior fighting force himself. Nah, pretty sure it was Roose who shot down the idea of outlasting Stannis in a siege by saying they would lose the North if they just cowered in Winterfell and waited for Stannis's army to die.
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May 21, 2016 21:26
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As a side note, I really enjoy Bran's visions of the past. I really hope they show the scene where Jaime kills the Mad King.
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May 21, 2016 21:30
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enraged_camel posted:I really hope they show the scene where Jaime kills the Mad King. One of the trailers before the season had something which looked a lot like that, so Im hopeful too.
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May 21, 2016 21:33
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Roose was actually shown doing very little in the show, he collaborated with Tywin and Walder Frey in the Red Wedding but we're led to believe the whole thing was Tywin's plan, in the book Roose's treachery begins well before the Red Wedding but in the show he isn't shown doing much to compromise Robb's campaign until he turns his cloak, but still let's chalk it up to a good move on his part. Afterwards it's Ramsay who uses Theon to take Moat Cailin and practically drives the Iron Born away from the north, subsequently Ramsay also proves himself to be a military mastermind as he smashes Stannis' forces with both guile and ruthlessness while Roose was advocating a ridiculously cowardly strategy against a far inferior fighting force himself. Which is kind of why I was excited during the stabbing scene. At first I thought Roose was offing Ramsay. I always like Roose more as a villian. Cold and Calculating is far more terrifying than crazy unhinged gently caress.
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May 21, 2016 21:33
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vyelkin posted:Nah, pretty sure it was Roose who shot down the idea of outlasting Stannis in a siege by saying they would lose the North if they just cowered in Winterfell and waited for Stannis's army to die. Roose says it's foolish to leave a good defensive position iirc, either way, it's Ramsay who resolves the dilemma with his brilliant application of guerrilla tactics which allows him to later ride out and destroy Stannis in the field with impunity. Ramsay clowned Stannis so hard the dude's wife killed herself and then he went on to finish his timid and cowardly father, good for him. emanresu tnuocca fucked around with this message at 21:36 on May 21, 2016 |
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May 21, 2016 21:34
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hiddenmovement posted:Ramsay has to get eaten by John's direwolf. I'd like to see Ramsay get brained by Tormund using some sort of mace. I have enjoyed the hell out of Iwan Rheon's portrayal of him though. He killed it.
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May 21, 2016 21:43
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hiddenmovement posted:Ramsay has to get eaten by John's direwolf. Jon's direwolf will clown Ramsey's dogs, then Jon will clown Ramsay.
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May 21, 2016 21:52
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enraged_camel posted:Jon's direwolf will clown Ramsey's dogs, then Jon will clown Ramsay. It would actually be pretty hilarious if Jon chased him down to the kennels where Ramsay smugly thought he could use his Mr. Burns secret weapon of "release the hounds!" only for Jon to bring a giant loving Dire Wolf into the picture.
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May 21, 2016 22:53
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I'm hoping they set up for a climactic fight but then actually Wun Wun just steps on Ramsay and that's the end of him.
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May 21, 2016 22:55
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Ramsay's best possible death is choking on Theon's zombie penis
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May 22, 2016 00:14
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Asmodai_00 posted:Ramsay is the John Cena of Westeros People hate John Cena???
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May 22, 2016 00:48
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vyelkin posted:I'm hoping they set up for a climactic fight but then actually Wun Wun just steps on Ramsay and that's the end of him. I hope they use the monty python food crush sound effect
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May 22, 2016 00:49
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etalian posted:I hope they use the monty python food crush sound effect immediately cut to AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT and it's Tyrion just getting drunk by himself for 15 minutes
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May 22, 2016 04:15
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"After the Thrones" is not gonna make it past this "season" is it? Do you know anyone who watches it? It's so bad. I don't know anyone that watched more than the first episode (other than me, I hate myself,) and I know some big rear end nerds.
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May 22, 2016 04:28
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I like Andy Greenwald well enough, but... reading Andy Greenwald.
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May 22, 2016 04:49
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Just gonna leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl9cSk5nxJE
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May 22, 2016 05:54
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When did Billy Mays get resurrected..?
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May 22, 2016 09:09
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May 22, 2016 13:01
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Please only post leaked images in the spoiler thread, thanks.
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May 22, 2016 13:03
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All this talk about how Sansa will kill Ramsey and nobody thinks she'll flay him? c'mon people!
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May 22, 2016 13:37
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I quite liked when Ramsay killed Roose because it really felt like a loving tragic moment in their lives. Roose was legit surprised Ramsay did it, because he really did love Ramsay in his hosed up way, and actually meant everything he told him... But Ramsay is too fundamentally broken to even believe in that, despite the years of evidence, so he felt he had to act But gently caress these Northern lords Catsplosion posted:All this talk about how Sansa will kill Ramsey and nobody thinks she'll flay him? Sansa isn't Arya and even Arya wouldn't flay anyone Like, he might get fed to some dogs (but really they'll have to burn everyone because Jon Snow does know one thing) but why would Sansa do a thing almost anyone would find extremely vile?
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May 22, 2016 14:14
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Bobo the Red posted:Sansa isn't Arya and even Arya wouldn't flay anyone. But only because it would be rude of a girl to give an unwrapped gift to the many faced god.
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May 22, 2016 15:16
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Has the episode leaked early or something? Can see links to it online.
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May 22, 2016 16:12
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Doakes posted:Has the episode leaked early or something? Can see links to it online. Yes.
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May 22, 2016 16:12
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Oh I was going to post the preview and ask for some hype/stuff people thought would happen tonight but... 
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May 22, 2016 16:23
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Asmodai_00 posted:Ramsay is the John Cena of Westeros Close... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FVMEb32ODk
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May 22, 2016 17:07
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Wait so Bran drove Hodor insane for most of his life specifically so that Hodor could sacrifice himself to save Bran? Kind of a dick move. e: Also, zombie Hodor? Infinite Monkeys fucked around with this message at 17:31 on May 22, 2016 |
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May 22, 2016 17:14
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There's a spoiler thread if you want to talk about that stuff.
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May 22, 2016 17:40
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Infinite Monkeys posted:Wait so SPOILERs people itt might not be too appreciative of you talking about the leaked episode here, quoth the thread rules: quote:This thread is SPOILER-FREE. To the best of your abilities DON'T TALK ABOUT BOOKS OR LEAKS IN THIS THREAD (ha ha ha ha ha ha). There's little book material left but still, nobody loving cares that your favorite character from the books is a total chump in the show, or something happened differently than you imagined it in your head from repeatedly reading the same book for a decade. If you can't help yourself, then go to the: I mean, personally I don't care, just giving you a heads up.
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May 22, 2016 17:41
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Hot.
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