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Yaaaaaaaaaaas Queen posted:R-rust? yeah, it's one of the most sandbox games out there, it's server based so it might not technically be an 'mmo' but it's a real game unlike most of the things in this forum you can't be a wizard, though. also, the game is stupid, but video games are stupid.
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Pavlov posted:I've been beginning to think that the reason the genre hasn't come back is because of minecraft/dayz. Other genres have largely isolated the pieces of MMOs that worked best and implemented them. It's left mmos themselves with all their baggage and not much of an edge. You get your PvP and boss raids in Dark Souls, your crafting in survival games, large-scale combat in like battlefield or whatever. There's just less of a reason to subject yourself to an MMO these days. A mmo needs to be pretty engaging for me these days. That thing about minecraft and arma 3 (gently caress day z sa) is me to a t. I just dont have the time to spare these days for a sub standard mmo.
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Freakazoid_ posted:It's easier to engage in pvp when you can pick a server that doesn't have many people on it, or switch servers the moment you're pked. that has a lot to do with establishment and time and money
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Carol Pizzamom posted:yeah, it's one of the most sandbox games out there, it's server based so it might not technically be an 'mmo' but it's a real game unlike most of the things in this forum I'd have to agree old rust was awesome until the hackers started flooding in and ruining everything
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Freakazoid_ posted:It's easier to engage in pvp when you can pick a server that doesn't have many people on it, or switch servers the moment you're pked.
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Pryce posted:OH MAN. I worked on Jumpgate. Still have a sweet t-shirt and nothing else to show for it. I'm sorry. It was fun while it lasted.
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Tried to get on the test server during one of the allotted times, sat in a queue with 15 people waiting to hit a min threshold of 45... 10 minutes passed, nothing, logged off. I was happy to help.
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how can you still keep this up for over a year when the forums are dead because of this hugbox its insane  petty even the thread topic was "Guild Respect" and the OP was asking about "What guild do you guys like and respect in this Playtest" playtest its a farce and a charade for something that's designed as a competitive pvp sandbox just imagine if it goes live and people start melting down over items being stolen and Aunt Pann steps in and goes "cut it out, be nice." Lastgirl fucked around with this message at 05:14 on May 20, 2016 |
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People sure seem to give way too big a gently caress about lovely official forums for a non existent game. I don't get the problem. gently caress, I don't get why you'd want to use the forums anyways.
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Yaaaaaaaaaaas Queen posted:how can you still keep this up for over a year when the forums are dead because of this hugbox
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my honor is this big
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Blazing Zero posted:my honor is this big 
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malhavok posted:People sure seem to give way too big a gently caress about lovely official forums for a non existent game. From my understanding this actually exists in a form that is semi-playable. Plus ya'll mother fuckers here lack perspective. What needs to be done is in-game with rub them with our hot sticky PvPenis then they come crying to the forums calling us naughty names, and then Mommy Pann will swoop in and punish the naughty pubbies causing further tears and bed-wetting.
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They intentionally courted the forumbane crowd to get them to pledge and once they got them they censored it because, oops it turns out a bunch of psychotic assholes are bad marketing for people who never experienced that flavor of crazy. E: Also yeah, the game exists and is playable, but I'm not really sure how what they have now is going to turn into a video game that'll make for a compelling reason to log in for PvP on the regular. Orv fucked around with this message at 10:41 on May 21, 2016 |
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Well, let me let you in on a secret: It won't
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Never preorder, never pay for an unfinished game. Wait for reviews that you trust once the game is finished and released. These are the lessons I learned in the last few years.
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Rasmussen posted:Never preorder, never pay for an unfinished game. Wait for reviews that you trust once the game is finished and released. These are the lessons I learned in the last few years. If you have enough disposable income there is something to gain from having a say in what kinds of games get made. As long as you realize you are simply making a statement and not buying an actual game though.
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SweetBro posted:Plus ya'll mother fuckers here lack perspective. What needs to be done is in-game with rub them with our hot sticky PvPenis then they come crying to the forums calling us naughty names, and then Mommy Pann will swoop in and punish the naughty pubbies causing further tears and bed-wetting. I like this fanfic so far  Kylra posted:*hugs u* bless you 
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Orv posted:They intentionally courted the forumbane crowd to get them to pledge and once they got them they censored it because, oops it turns out a bunch of psychotic assholes are bad marketing for people who never experienced that flavor of crazy. Thats exactly what happened And there were a few crazies, let me tell ya... I'm talking crazy on the level of naked muscular guy jacking off over mutilating your corpse continuously in a primal frenzy kind of pvp crazy Lastgirl fucked around with this message at 16:23 on May 21, 2016 |
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Lastgirl posted:
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Rasmussen posted:Never preorder, never pay for an unfinished game. Wait for reviews that you trust once the game is finished and released. These are the lessons I learned in the last few years. I'd rather take a gamble then let a bunch of venture capitalists or publishers with dollar signs in their eyes get involved. Every game I've crowdfunded, I've enjoyed. Hell, a couple of them were my GOTYs. That's more than I can say about literally any MMO that has released in the past 12 years since World of Warcraft became a thing. Sure, none of the MMOs I've funded have been released, but that's because the development cycle are pretty drat long but the builds I have access to are fun. 
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whats a really good crowdfunded game besides PoE?
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Flavahbeast posted:whats a really good crowdfunded game besides PoE? Had to look up a list but I've played these games and I enjoyed them. Wasteland 2 Torment 2 (early access build) Chivalry Medieval Warfare Divinity Original Sin Kingdom Come Deliverance (what I've played at least) Shadowrun Returns/Hong Kong Satellite Reign Grim Dawn Xenonauts Darkest Dungeon Shovel Knight Legend of Dungeon Guns of Icarus Online Gods Will Be Watching Among the Sleep (first person horror game from the perspective of a toddler) FTL Superhot Sunless Sea Octodad Dadliest Catch Sir You are Being Hunted Contagion Ravaged Hard West Lifeless Planet Organ Trail The Escapists Frontiers Insurgency (failed Kickstarter but got a build out in early access and funded development through that entirely) The Banner Saga Verdict is still out on Bard's Tale IV (backed it because they gave away Wasteland 2 with a cheap pledge) but I haven't really followed development. Shards Online seems alright so far and The Repopulation was cool until servers closed because the HeroEngine people couldn't guarantee them whether they'd be in business six months in the future so they're currently rebuilding on UE4. Alexander DeLarge fucked around with this message at 05:47 on May 22, 2016 |
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You forgot Untertale. And you know I kickstarted some of those too man. But even in the kickstarter thread people will laugh at you for kickstarting an MMO. That's just how prone to failure MMOs are. And full disclosure, I've even given money to help fund a PvP sandbox mmo (Das Tal, I'm testing it this weekend even). But even though I've had a dev member personally discuss with me pretty much everything I could reasonably want in an MMO and how to get there, I'm still bracing for failure. That's just how MMOs are. They can go bad for all the reasons a normal game can plus a dozen others. That's why people will laugh for giving money them and really expecting things to come from it.
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Pavlov posted:You forgot Untertale. Undertale was crowdfunded? poo poo. That's one hell of a success story.... And yeah, Kickstarted MMOs are extremely risky so I generally only do $50 at most. Elyria/Shards/The Repopulation are the only exceptions where I've paid over $100. Generally I find that I've had a way better success rate with Kickstarted MMOs than the poo poo to come out since WoW I did the $100 layaway for Crowfall but the pledge expires after release so I'll be able to watch and see whether I want to put more in, and I can receive my $26 down payment back at any time and just put it towards merch or a basic package. Alexander DeLarge fucked around with this message at 07:57 on May 22, 2016 |
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See though, $50 is the pricier end of what most people would spend on a game that already exists and they can hear people say was a good game. I mean maybe you just bleed money or something, in which case congrats, but can you see why we might think you look silly for being such an ardent defender of throwing money at the wind? I spent 35 bux, testing on and off for a year and a half, and you're still free to chuckle at me. Edit: On second thought, if you're in the wind-throwing business, toss some at Das Tal too it's probably up your alley. Pavlov fucked around with this message at 09:07 on May 22, 2016 |
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Alexander DeLarge posted:I'd rather take a gamble then let a bunch of venture capitalists or publishers with dollar signs in their eyes get involved. Every game I've crowdfunded, I've enjoyed. Hell, a couple of them were my GOTYs. That's more than I can say about literally any MMO that has released in the past 12 years since World of Warcraft became a thing. Sure, none of the MMOs I've funded have been released, but that's because the development cycle are pretty drat long but the builds I have access to are fun. I'm incredibly drunk right now, but remind me tomorrow to explain why everything you love is wrong.
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SweetBro posted:I'm incredibly drunk right now, but remind me tomorrow to explain why everything you love is wrong. Hey, FTL is good.
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The people who continually post never to pre-order and then contribute nothing else are infinitely worse than any bad game I've ever pre-ordered or Kickstarted. That said, Kickstarting MMOs is analogous to burning money only in that the money no-longer exists. It's more like throwing your money into a black hole, doomed to an eternity of meaningless existence.
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I see that the thread has restarted the cycle and we are back to complaining about kickstarters and forum mods. It's the Circle of Shitposting, and it moves us all (into the dumpster). I suppose the next step is for me to make a big effortpost about something but I've been too busy with other games lately to pay much attention to Crowfall, so welp.
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Pavlov posted:See though, $50 is the pricier end of what most people would spend on a game that already exists and they can hear people say was a good game. I mean maybe you just bleed money or something, in which case congrats, but can you see why we might think you look silly for being such an ardent defender of throwing money at the wind? But you are not spending money on a game. You are spending money on having a say on what kinds of games get made. I backed this and camelot unchained (which looks a lot worse than this at this point) because I want someone to at least be trying to get games like that made.
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Yeah it's here. Pretty dead though. I'm probably making a new one when it hits beta. Edit: But to answer your question, slow but steady. It's an actual game now, just on a much smaller scale than a complete mmo. Pavlov fucked around with this message at 22:10 on May 22, 2016 |
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To keep my promise. Alexander DeLarge posted:Sure, none of the MMOs I've funded have been released, but that's because the development cycle are pretty drat long but the builds I have access to are fun. Alexander DeLarge posted:I'd rather take a gamble then let a bunch of venture capitalists or publishers with dollar signs in their eyes get involved. I think you misunderstand something. The reason why these games don't have publishers or VCs isn't because the developers chose to reject them, it's because no VC/Publisher would be loving retarded enough to invest so much money/effort into something that's historically been proven to fall flat on it's face. The moment something begins to show itself as being commercially viable I guarantee you at least one of them will get involved regardless of your desires. Ignoring the fact that this is a year old. Half of these studios were working multiple projects at a time. And the massive difference in development efficiency between small vs large teams. Star Citizen still lacks in anything resembling a minimal viable product for the amount of time invested. Also ESO has an insane amount of content (which no one actually cares about because the game is dull as gently caress to play). That being said, I'm actually excited for Crowfall because the developers seem to actually comprehend the challenges of scale and have answered the issue of a design level (the little sharded campaign poo poo which the name of escapes me right now) rather than making overblown impossible to fulfill "one big world" promises like every other Kickstarter mmo.
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SweetBro posted:That being said, I'm actually excited for Crowfall because the developers seem to actually comprehend the challenges of scale and have answered the issue of a design level (the little sharded campaign poo poo which the name of escapes me right now) rather than making overblown impossible to fulfill "one big world" promises like every other Kickstarter mmo. i was with you until this section. the cf devs still want massive worlds but they will be sharded. unless they recently scaled back from the 200+ per shard
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