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So I've stuck with this show until now and have enjoyed it, but holy hell was this season finale terrible. I can't tell if it was terribly edited or if they tried (and failed) to evoke some kind of dreamy/nightmare "apocalypse now" feeling in the compound. It just felt choppy. Its like they were trying so hard to be meaningful but it came out like some some junior high kid's latest creative writing assignment. A zombie survival tv show can be about surviving zombies, it doesn't have to be some lovely critique on human nature. Yeah it helps if its done well, but it doesn't need to be done. When Travis suddenly couldn't walk I thought my DVR had skipped, why were his feet hosed up from walking a day? Were his boots filled with glass? Why did the Salvidad suddenly go completely insane within a day? Why did the junkie suddenly convert to a batshit religion within 3 short conversations and a bowl of soup? Why does anyone care what happens to Travis's dead eyed psychopathic son? How can a fire in a wine cellar burn down the entire compound within minutes? Why am I so mad about an episode I am posting on the internet?
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It feels like they cut out an episode because they were overcompensating for criticisms of The Walking Dead spending too long on the farm in Season 2. They've pulled the hallucinating plot three times in this show and The Walking Dead, because they don't know how else to put internal monologue on screen. With an intermittent episode, they could've focused more on Nick starting to act like Celia's henchman and had more scenes between El Salvidad and Ophelia. If Strand or El Salvidad warned the rest of the group were warned about Celia's poison, Madison could've told Nick about it and used that she kills people to try to bring him back to their side. Then, Madison would have had more reason to kill her. They could've shown Travis on the road hiding from a horde and cutting his foot while going off the road in a brief scene near the end of the between-episode.
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May 23, 2016 06:33
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This was the finale?
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May 23, 2016 06:45
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BigRoman posted:So I've stuck with this show until now and have enjoyed it, but holy hell was this season finale terrible. its because the writers are trying to tear apart the el salvidad-strand-nick trifecta Tenzarin posted:This was the finale? 1/2 season finale
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May 23, 2016 06:47
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e: doube post
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May 23, 2016 06:48
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BigRoman posted:So I've stuck with this show until now and have enjoyed it, but holy hell was this season finale terrible. I spent the whole time going what the gently caress. I had honestly believed that El Salivdad was poisoned by the woman because she recognized him as a war criminal, explaining his sudden "absolute loss of all his poo poo." Then I thoguht his 'wife' was actually an interrogator. No? I guess he just flipped out? Also the way the death (?) scene with the woman of the house went down.. and Chris's madness.. The whole thing felt like a lovely attempt at a head trip and it was dumb as hell. I don't even know who lived and who died because it was shot like such poo poo. For a season that had been pulling up, this was a nose dive. ED: Everyone watching tonight went "What the gently caress happened to his feet?" and nobody could figure it out. I still can't.
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May 23, 2016 08:56
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Strand should keep his shirt off for the entirety of the next half season.BigRoman posted:It just felt choppy. That's been the show since like day one.
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May 23, 2016 10:03
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Yeah, I've got no desire to watch this anymore.
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May 23, 2016 11:42
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That felt like they were trying to stuff in 4 or 5 more episodes of story developments into one hour. Holy poo poo was that a disjointed mess.
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May 23, 2016 12:41
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So why was NJD okay with painting himself with the blood and viscera of his newly found out "changed" people if he still thinks they're people/not zombies or whatever? Like, was he calling them by name while disemboweling them and smearing their guts all over himself? How long of a "mid-season break" do we get? Also goddamnit I seriously wanted Travis or Psychopath Son to die this episode, what the gently caress. Now we'll have three groups, two of which will probably be awful and hopefully one will be dope af(El Salvidad and NJD!) How is breaking off from the safety of numbers going to help the dumbass son? Like seriously you obviously were struggling with the kid pre-apocalypse, what makes you think now that he's literally murked zombies AND a living person(or two? I forget...) you can suddenly steer him on the right path? Especially leaving the only "trained" person who could deal with that, Bad Dumb Mom, even though she's been shown to be almost comically inept at handling the youth in the show.
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May 23, 2016 14:51
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If I'm being completely honest I'm not really responding to the popular characters like some are, and I'm not finding Madison particularly annoying either, they're all just... middling is the best word I can think of to describe their affect on me. The original series, for all it's lovely writing failures that are getting repeated here, at least has characters I really like and some I really don't but Fear doesn't have either.
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May 23, 2016 16:19
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Johnny Truant posted:How long of a "mid-season break" do we get? 2-3 months. It starts back up sometime in August.
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May 23, 2016 16:35
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and thusly did they not go out with a bang, but with a wet baby jizz rope, hanging loosely against the side of the tub as it slowly rolls to it's final resting place.
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May 23, 2016 18:36
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So was Celia in the zombie house still when salvidad roasted it with fuel of a thousand suns? And did he actually get out?
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May 23, 2016 18:39
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moist turtleneck posted:So was Celia in the zombie house still when salvidad roasted it with fuel of a thousand suns? And did he actually get out? they both 100% lived, did you see a body?
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May 23, 2016 18:40
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True that
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May 23, 2016 18:41
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How was that house evil again?
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May 23, 2016 19:16
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Tenzarin posted:How was that house evil again? a loving caring mother kept something that no one understood yet in a safe and thoughtful manner and wasn't hurting anyone along with welcoming people to her home and feeding them.
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May 23, 2016 19:18
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Salvidad should have just helped Strand plant the body somewhere else, or offer to burn it
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May 23, 2016 19:57
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Tenzarin posted:How was that house evil again? They did go ahead and kill that church full of people and were starting some bizarre cult based around Dia de Los Muertos.
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May 23, 2016 20:17
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Grinning Goblin posted:They did go ahead and kill that church full of people and were starting some bizarre cult based around Dia de Los Muertos. Yeah, what the hell was that about anyway? Why would Celia have killed a bunch of people in the church? She was portrayed as tough in the house hold but certainly not genocidal. Maybe because they refused to believe whatever weird thing she was starting up, but even then, were that the case why did she kill people she presumably knew, and let the main cast survive? Wouldn't she have poisoned them too during the first dinner?
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May 23, 2016 20:36
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Johnny Truant posted:So why was NJD okay with painting himself with the blood and viscera of his newly found out "changed" people if he still thinks they're people/not zombies or whatever? Like, was he calling them by name while disemboweling them and smearing their guts all over himself? I was wondering this too. "They're not dead! You are a good boy!" "I wiped your son's stomach over my face, we cool?" Dr. Tim Whatley posted:a loving caring mother kept something that no one understood yet in a safe and thoughtful manner and wasn't hurting anyone along with welcoming people to her home and feeding them. El Salivdad knew they were feeding zombies puppies. Random puppy will be avenged! ED: Great mark of a clusterfuck - I don't know if the woman is dead (or simply ghosted out of them like Nicholas) or if El Salivdad is dead because they jump cut from the fire starting to "raging inferno." This episode made no Goddamn sense. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 21:16 on May 23, 2016 |
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May 23, 2016 21:13
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Can someone make the assumption that salvidad is dead so we can have an angry discourse until the next half season is out
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May 23, 2016 21:15
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moist turtleneck posted:Can someone make the assumption that salvidad is dead so we can have an angry discourse until the next half season is out The woman of the house is another one. We never saw her die, and while locked in a cage full of zombies, she seems to understand Nick's "get them to ignore you" stuff and the way it was shot, I honestly have no loving idea if she was supposed to die or not. In fact the whole episode felt like the kind of fever dream you'd get after eating some bad Taco Bell.
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May 23, 2016 21:17
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JossiRossi posted:Yeah, what the hell was that about anyway? Why would Celia have killed a bunch of people in the church? She was portrayed as tough in the house hold but certainly not genocidal. Maybe because they refused to believe whatever weird thing she was starting up, but even then, were that the case why did she kill people she presumably knew, and let the main cast survive? Wouldn't she have poisoned them too during the first dinner? Because in her broken logic, she didn't kill them, she transformed them so they wouldn't hurt more people. Why she wanted Strand to take the poison, so her son and him could "live together" in the cell, "alive." ..... yes, her motivations are the same as a mentally ill 12 year old on TWD proper who held similar beliefs. moist turtleneck posted:Can someone make the assumption that salvidad is dead so we can have an angry discourse until the next half season is out Fortunately he found a handy dumpster just outside of the jail, and the fires burned around him safely. ED: In all seriousness I think they wanted to imply the fire set off the alcohol in the cellar, and that's where the was a tiny ADR "Boom" in the background after cutting away; couldn't afford to show an explosion. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 21:22 on May 23, 2016 |
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May 23, 2016 21:19
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That place went up quicker than a Dothraki Khalhut! Also Chris and Ophelia look the same in low light.
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May 23, 2016 21:41
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By the way am I the only one to have thought El Salivdad was poisoned or drugged? He literally was never insane before and she immediately told him he was dying, so... uh.. slow acting poison maybe was it? I have no idea in hell.
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May 23, 2016 22:36
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moist turtleneck posted:Can someone make the assumption that salvidad is dead so we can have an angry discourse until the next half season is out Tenzarin posted:So is El Savidad dead now? Done and done. Riot.
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May 23, 2016 22:38
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Blazing Ownager posted:I spent the whole time going what the gently caress. Like a dumbass Travis never put shoes on before running off into the night after his son. He was only wearing socks and the ground has lots of sharp rocks and broken glass and stuff.
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May 23, 2016 23:51
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hollylolly posted:Like a dumbass Travis never put shoes on before running off into the night after his son. He was only wearing socks and the ground has lots of sharp rocks and broken glass and stuff. Wow that is so stupid I can't comprehend it for a few reasons. Aside from the fact they picked socks that look a ton like shoes. Mostly because, I don't know, if I was running around in the wild in socks to the point my feet were turning bloodsoaked I think I'd try to cushion them a bit more or solve the problem or something. I mean for gently caress's sake.
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May 24, 2016 00:18
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Blazing Ownager posted:Wow that is so stupid I can't comprehend it for a few reasons. Aside from the fact they picked socks that look a ton like shoes. It's even more baffling from a writing decision standpoint because the episode would have lost nothing at all if his sore feet hadn't even been a thing that happened.
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May 24, 2016 00:23
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I had assumed there was a really good reason why he wasn't wearing shoes that I must have not seen other than he's just a loving idiot. It's amazing the blanks you let mind fill in for the writers when you want a show to be good.
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May 24, 2016 00:51
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The bloody feet were meant to distract us from talking about the real problem with the plot on that episode. Everything
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May 24, 2016 00:59
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JossiRossi posted:Yeah, what the hell was that about anyway? Why would Celia have killed a bunch of people in the church? She was portrayed as tough in the house hold but certainly not genocidal. Maybe because they refused to believe whatever weird thing she was starting up, but even then, were that the case why did she kill people she presumably knew, and let the main cast survive? Wouldn't she have poisoned them too during the first dinner? They knew about what she was doing and the priest was ginning them up to go up to the Abigail vineyard with torches and pitchforks to put a stop to her zombie hording ways. She found out, and arraigned the poison. Thomas discoverd this, and even though by that point he was a prisoner in his own home and no longer in charge of the estate, escaped in his truck to warn them. But it was too late.
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May 24, 2016 05:34
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Maybe we all have it wrong. The characters did not all intentionally go insane that episode. Maybe this was an experiment of writing a script on an LSD+Mescaline+Cocaine trip and the writer thought every single thing they did was rational.
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May 24, 2016 08:10
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JossiRossi posted:Yeah, what the hell was that about anyway? Why would Celia have killed a bunch of people in the church? She was portrayed as tough in the house hold but certainly not genocidal. Maybe because they refused to believe whatever weird thing she was starting up, but even then, were that the case why did she kill people she presumably knew, and let the main cast survive? Wouldn't she have poisoned them too during the first dinner? For anyone who is watching the show to enjoy it, here's the first couple of paragraphs of an interesitng review of the episode: quote:Fear the Walking Dead Explores the Positive Side of the Zombie Apocalypse
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May 24, 2016 12:06
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That review managed to be more ignorant and poorly written than the episode, so congrats?
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May 24, 2016 13:13
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hahaha wow Gizmodo is trash What if this show did something, something that another show with almost the same did a couple seasons ago? How awe inspiring
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May 24, 2016 14:08
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Wow can't imagine why they would instantly and violently reject that view when the undead keep eating family members and will relentlessly pursue the living. Two sides to every story guess the truth is in the middle equal time for opposing views.
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May 24, 2016 14:56
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I must be one of the few FWD lovers on here and praise it constantly. But what the gently caress happened in that last episode? IT. MADE. NO. loving. SENSE. AT. ALL. Every single one of the main characters personality and motivations changed completely. What a bizarre episode.
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