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i see what ur coming at since u live in the trees but in the urban environments thigns are closer
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Shaggar posted:what I'm saying is that if they can afford to live within realistic bicycle distance from their work they probably can afford other transportation. I'm saying theres not much overlap between poor and could possibly bike to work. then when you add in the unreliability of bike transport the overlap is eliminated. and you are wrong, because as usual, you have no idea of the demographic breakdown of actual cities turns out lots of poor people live in rooming houses and shared accommodations within the city core too, and they can and are served by improved transit options including accessible cycling infrastructure
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May 23, 2016 19:33
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maybe you guys are talking about going from the suburbs to the city. i mean if you actually live in the city. somewhere like boston is basically walkable to pretty much anywhere plus theres the subway. in maine our largest city you would just walk everywhere. its not that big. taking a bus around the city would honestly take more time than walking. i guess if you live in a southern city where things aren't as dense and the weather is pretty good all year round bikes might make more sense if you don't have good real transport.
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May 23, 2016 19:36
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your entire state has the population of the old city of toronto (pre-amalgamation with the surrounding boroughs), so yes, it's safe to say you have no concept of the scale of an actual city
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May 23, 2016 19:40
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also stop saying bikes are unreliable that's flat out wrong compared to cars trains or busses. both in transit and in maintenance like I previously said. as for bike distance, it increases your availability to two miles in an hour walking to at least 15 riding. that opens up your potential jobs significantly I'll concede riding in snow being not optimal but it's also super easy and very achievable
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May 23, 2016 19:54
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looking up the pop of maine is a big lol there are 41 cities in the US with a larger pop than the whole state, and those 41 cities represent 2/3rds of all americans
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May 23, 2016 20:05
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whole lot of shaggering going on its
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May 23, 2016 21:26
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if you stink like rear end from huffing to work in boston in july u arent gonna keep that job buddy
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May 23, 2016 22:22
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Jonny 290 posted:if you stink like rear end from huffing to work in boston in july u arent gonna keep that job buddy stinking like rear end and unemployed, sure sounds like everyone else in boston fuckin gotem
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May 23, 2016 22:40
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if your work isn't walking distance from your gym, where you can shower, you probably don't work anywhere that cares if you reek of sweat
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May 23, 2016 23:39
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bicycle commuting will save me _so much time_ over riding in a car! Suck it. *spends 45 minutes awkwardly showering in public* Squeaky. loving. Clean. Also, i'm an idle millenial piece of poo poo and have to pay somebody to make up manual labor chores for me so my muscles dont atrophy.
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May 23, 2016 23:41
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Jonny 290 posted:Also, i'm an idle millenial piece of poo poo and have to pay somebody to make up manual labor chores for me so my muscles dont atrophy. yes, we've all read your posts about the homestead
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May 23, 2016 23:47
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nice, wish i could return the favor 
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May 23, 2016 23:50
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i'm an incredibly lazy urbanite, surrounded by modern convenience. my exercise amounts to gardening and walking, if that helps
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May 23, 2016 23:56
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shagger left his boring rear end worthless state once or twice to visit boston and thinks he understands urban/public transportation planning
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May 24, 2016 03:11
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mishaq posted:shagger left his boring rear end worthless state once or twice to visit boston and thinks he understands urban/public transportation planning no wonder he thinks all transit is poo poo
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May 24, 2016 03:27
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Shaggar posted:then when you add in the unreliability of bike transport the overlap is eliminated. shaggar, poor people don't get to choose reliable forms of transit. they just make do with what they have, and when their bosses get sick of reliability issues, they get fired. yes, this means a lot of working people get fired annually or bi-annually. this is a thing. relying on a bus or bicycle is really loving painful in 99% of american situations. the answer isn't "oh well gently caress the poor" we should strive to make bus and bicycle commutes more practical
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May 24, 2016 04:17
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Progressive JPEG posted:no wonder he thinks all transit is poo poo well he's not wrong that most transit is poo poo most of the time i just don't understand how the gently caress you can start with "transit is poo poo" and draw the conclusion "oh that's ok then gently caress it"
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May 24, 2016 04:18
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good public transportation owns so hard shagger thinks the solution to getting drunk at the bar is using one of those services where someone drives you and your drunk rear end home in your own car lmao
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May 24, 2016 04:20
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:shaggar, poor people don't get to choose reliable forms of transit. they just make do with what they have, and when their bosses get sick of reliability issues, they get fired. yes, this means a lot of working people get fired annually or bi-annually. this is a thing. relying on a bus or bicycle is really loving painful in 99% of american situations. have they tried working within walk, bike, bus distance so its less painful to walk, bike, bus?
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May 24, 2016 04:22
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I make a deece six figgies and can barely afford to live within walk bike bus distance of work
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May 24, 2016 04:28
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when i was poverty distance was bike, bus, train, combo, or desk next to bed, depending on year. probably would have been non-poore quicker if i could afford car gas an insurance to increase jobs market. might have helped if i kept one profession too still dont have car cuz never had one and dunno what im missing. believe in ur american dreams and u too can walk to work. god bless america
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May 24, 2016 04:54
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:shaggar, poor people don't get to choose reliable forms of transit. they just make do with what they have, and when their bosses get sick of reliability issues, they get fired. yes, this means a lot of working people get fired annually or bi-annually. this is a thing. relying on a bus or bicycle is really loving painful in 99% of american situations. you cant make bus and bicycle commutes more practical. they're fundamentally garbage.
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May 24, 2016 04:58
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Shaggar posted:you cant make bus and bicycle commutes more practical. they're fundamentally garbage. don't sign your posts
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May 24, 2016 05:04
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Shaggar posted:you cant make bus and bicycle commutes more practical. they're fundamentally garbage. my bicycle commute in shenzhen is extremely easy and practical because they have a separated bike lane from my apartment to my office and the buses in singapore are amazingly good & on time always so it seems like it is possible?
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May 24, 2016 05:22
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fart simpson posted:my bicycle commute in shenzhen is extremely easy and practical because they have a separated bike lane from my apartment to my office and the buses in singapore are amazingly good & on time always so it seems like it is possible? how are they in the rural and suburban areas because for that to work for 160 million americans thats important iow shaggar was right
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May 24, 2016 05:27
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LastInLine posted:how are they in the rural and suburban areas because for that to work for 160 million americans thats important 3/4s of americans live in metros larger than the biggest city in maine. shaggs was shaggin also im not hand wringing over the horrible shitbirds in rural areas so much
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May 24, 2016 05:46
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Cygni posted:3/4s of americans live in metros larger than the biggest city in maine. shaggs was shaggin metro areas include suburbs which for a city like atlanta is a difference of five million people. there are just under half a million in atlanta proper and five million people in your statistic but not in the city. this is not an unusual situation in the us and it needs to be pointed out that for the most part the wealth is not located in the city but rather the exurbs and suburbs who actively oppose any kind of public transit busing and cycling is something that can work in some places but its ridiculously elitist and really stupid to think it could work in any but a handful of us cities that were built exclusively around the twins ideas of the ubiquity of personal transportation and gently caress the poors
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May 24, 2016 06:59
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i live in the bay area (redwood city) and i ride my bicycle to work every day. i happen to also work in redwood city, and i ride just over a mile, so i could walk, i'm just lazy. but i could reasonably commute by bike south to palo alto or north to san mateo. there are more tech jobs between rwc and either of these locations than exist in the entire state of maine. combined with caltrain (free gopass from employer ofc) i could go anywhere on the peninsula where a job might be, without any need for a car
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May 24, 2016 08:05
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JewKiller 3000 posted:i live in the bay area (redwood city) and i ride my bicycle to work every day. i happen to also work in redwood city, and i ride just over a mile, so i could walk, i'm just lazy. but i could reasonably commute by bike south to palo alto or north to san mateo. there are more tech jobs between rwc and either of these locations than exist in the entire state of maine. combined with caltrain (free gopass from employer ofc) i could go anywhere on the peninsula where a job might be, without any need for a car its almost like some places are densely packed and others arent for every place where buses and bikes work there are twenty where they dont and the attitude of well idc about any place where they dont work is no more valid an opinion than shaggars (correct) opinion that bikes and buses are lovely
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May 24, 2016 08:29
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LastInLine posted:metro areas include suburbs which for a city like atlanta is a difference of five million people. there are just under half a million in atlanta proper and five million people in your statistic but not in the city. this is not an unusual situation in the us and it needs to be pointed out that for the most part the wealth is not located in the city but rather the exurbs and suburbs who actively oppose any kind of public transit a start would be allowing other sorts of places to be built. American cities aren't suburban hell holes just because everyone has a car, it's also because any other sort of environment is banned, cf that article about requiring two parking spaces per unit in a new build next to a train station
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May 24, 2016 08:55
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i like my suburban hell hole all the benefits of being near a city without any of the drawbacks plus ill never have to know what the inside of a bus smells like and i sure af wont have to own a bicycle lol
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May 24, 2016 09:49
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pointsofdata posted:a start would be allowing other sorts of places to be built. American cities aren't suburban hell holes just because everyone has a car, it's also because any other sort of environment is banned, cf that article about requiring two parking spaces per unit in a new build next to a train station we built the bridges too low for buses to pass under, gently caress the poors
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May 24, 2016 10:34
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LastInLine posted:i like my suburban hell hole except, you know, being able to walk to get groceries or anything that isn't a gas stop 7-11 within a 10 minute drive let's hope gas never gets expensive
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May 24, 2016 10:40
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infernal machines posted:we built the bridges too low for buses to pass under, gently caress the poors in la loads of lots are zoned for only one property, but there are special allowances so that you can still have a separate house for servants as long as it has no kitchen and is 20feet away from the main building
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May 24, 2016 11:27
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you can't rent or sell it to a poor person though! servants only!
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May 24, 2016 11:27
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1 bedroom apartments require 1.5 (covered!) parking spaces per apartment
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May 24, 2016 11:31
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bike lanes improve commute times for carhavers too imagine that
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May 24, 2016 12:21
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Actually I think you'll find that bike lanes increase pollution!!!!! http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/environment/packed_hampstead_meeting_hears_call_for_cycling_superhighway_to_be_scrapped_1_4460007
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These people are utterly mental http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/hampstead_meeting_called_as_boris_cycle_superhighway_row_gains_momentum_1_4451282 quote:She said: “If TfL have their way, Hampstead will become a ghetto. Regent’s Park, one of the jewels of English Heritage and parks will become a velodrome.”
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