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Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Matt Walsh has an answer to inner city communities

https://twitter.com/mattwalshblog/status/734799778375163904
https://twitter.com/mattwalshblog/status/734814180356837376
https://twitter.com/mattwalshblog/status/734831373714886656

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boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
people really fetishize marriage but it's not actually helpful as a way to reduce poverty in the US and instead is just trying to blame people for making the wrong life choices. it's "well you shouldn't have had kids" for the pro-life set

http://www.demos.org/blog/4/14/14/single-mother-child-poverty-myth

Xanderkish
Aug 10, 2011

Hello!
Truly, the one thing our society needs again is for people to enter into marriage because of social pressure rather than actual love and commitment. Truly Matt Walsh has his finger on the pulse of America's troubles.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer
what do you suppose the matt walsh sex scandal will be

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Bushiz posted:

what do you suppose the matt walsh sex scandal will be

It'll be either the most bland, he had missionary though a hole in a sheet with a hooker; or the most perverted, scat play while locked in a hobbler getting hosed at both ends.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
I got married after dating for almost 10 years and the big changes were my wife's last name and we got a PS4. Great party though.


Bushiz posted:

what do you suppose the matt walsh sex scandal will be



paid porn account followed by a ridiculous excuse involving hacking that doesn't make sense.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Bushiz posted:

what do you suppose the matt walsh sex scandal will be

that he ever had it

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

this man is loving idiot. yeah strong positive male and female figures are needed, but its not the sole reason why they are crap. its economic and systemic poo poo too. sure its retarded to burn down your own community. but when you give them no positive outlet and then gently caress them over again and again, its gonna happen because people are pissed and others will take the situation as an opportunity to be assholes.

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

White people are much better about getting married, that's why you never see them destroying their communities.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Dapper_Swindler posted:

this man is loving idiot. yeah strong positive male and female figures are needed, but its not the sole reason why they are crap. its economic and systemic poo poo too. sure its retarded to burn down your own community. but when you give them no positive outlet and then gently caress them over again and again, its gonna happen because people are pissed and others will take the situation as an opportunity to be assholes.

being unmarried doesn't preclude strong parental figures, these can come from extended family ex: grandma or grandpa and many single parents are actually unmarried but cohabitating, or the father doesn't live in the household but he's often around and positively engaged in the children's lives. it's actually somewhat rare for parents to be true Single Moms/Dads, which often happens because of some tragedy like death, mental illness, or incarceration

many people read 'single mothers' as people who purposely have kids while dodging marriage as a way of defrauding the system. while there is definite pressure to not get married because of the ludicrously low income caps for welfare assistance i remember reading some study indicating that poor mothers often defer marriage for personal reasons like finding the right person who, for whatever reason, is not the father of their children

really it's all just a bunch of coded ways to poo poo on the poor for daring to be poor, and social conservativism trying to reassert the unpopular idea that people need to get married young and then subsume their identities and personal growth so that they can remain in a stable partnership for the sole purpose of turning sex into a procreative measure

boner confessor fucked around with this message at 23:38 on May 23, 2016

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
The arrow of causality is reversed. Marriage doesn't make people prosperous, prosperous people are the ones who can afford to get married. That married people have higher standards doesn't mean marriage has magical powers to make people better off, it just means that well-off people are more likely to be married.

It's like in football, where dumb people think that the statistics show that you need to run the ball to win, when it's actually the opposite (teams with leads run the ball to wind down the clock). Running the ball doesn't win games, winning games means you're running the ball a lot.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug
What the right wants is a desperately poor, badly educated underclass with dismal prospects.

I'm pretty sure they're looking at North Korea and going "hey look at how tightly the government can control things there. Think we can do that here?"

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Popular Thug Drink posted:

people really fetishize marriage but it's not actually helpful as a way to reduce poverty in the US and instead is just trying to blame people for making the wrong life choices. it's "well you shouldn't have had kids" for the pro-life set

http://www.demos.org/blog/4/14/14/single-mother-child-poverty-myth

No look it's very clear, Jesus said so directly in Supplyside 14:88 - marriage alone cures poverty and nothing else is required and certainly divorce is not a heightened risk of poverty so don't even think of making that argument, buster

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

ToxicSlurpee posted:

What the right wants is a desperately poor, badly educated underclass with dismal prospects.

I'm pretty sure they're looking at North Korea and going "hey look at how tightly the government can control things there. Think we can do that here?"

Yeah. They want someone to always be beneath them so they can shine by comparison and give condescending morality lectures while they suffer. If these groups ever start to make headway, right wingers try everything they can to knock them down of claim that they aren't legitimate somehow. If someone isn't worse off than they are, then they have to face their own problems and they will never do that by choice.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Beck hates Hershey Park

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJTpZYrCPpU&ebc=ANyPxKqwajaw8CD2L8hXCU6F1d4Y5_tPyNQV9sqYPCbixT9tTs3CoUNgbBTic2Hue5BBBhY6ZoEd

quote:

“If you don’t stand up now,” Beck declared, “I guarantee you the next thing that will be mainstreamed” will be pedophilia.

The push for transgender equality is “not normal,” Beck insisted, unlike the fight for gay marriage, which was something he claimed that the American public would have accepted within the next few years on its own.

“Transgender bathrooms have come out of nowhere,” he stated, “and are being jammed down our throat. I guarantee you, I guarantee you the next stop on this train is pedophilia. I guarantee it. They will normalize pedophilia.”

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Is there literally anyone out there going, "but think of the pedophiles"?

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

And so ends Beck's brief flirtation with rationality.

I still don't get the insistence on transgender people in bathrooms automatically leading to pedophile rape gangs. Disregarding the blatant assertion that all transpeople are just waiting to prey on your daughter, what prevents cisgender pedophiles getting kids right now? By sheer demographics they would be a much more common threat than any transgender ones, but we don't hear the "think of the children" crap for them. Wonder why?

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer

Chilichimp posted:

Is there literally anyone out there going, "but think of the pedophiles"?

The 4chan/reddit trump crowd who really desperately wants to be validated for masturbating to vacation pictures of their friends younger siblings.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Bushiz posted:

what do you suppose the matt walsh sex scandal will be

That someone actually decided to have sex with him because I'm pretty sure that guy is a never-nude.

Chilichimp posted:

Is there literally anyone out there going, "but think of the pedophiles"?

Sure, all of those ex-GOP lawmakers who submitted letters to the judge at Denny Hastert's sentencing hearing talking about what a swell guy he actually was.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Zeroisanumber posted:

Sure, all of those ex-GOP lawmakers who submitted letters to the judge at Denny Hastert's sentencing hearing talking about what a swell guy he actually was.

Don't forget the incest pedo of the Duggars. Huckleberry a GOP nom hopeful defended incest pedo. He also said "man if I knew I could look at jailbait legally I would hehehehehe" when talking about the bathrooms debate.

The only good thing Huckleberry did was troll Zodiac Killer when that Kentucky clerk refused to issue marriage licenses and he cockblocked Cruz from getting a good photo ops.

fake edit: Never eat grits and gravy at his place.

Hermetic
Sep 7, 2007

by exmarx

Chilichimp posted:

Is there literally anyone out there going, "but think of the pedophiles"?

Matt Walsh, when he was raging about liberals daring to feel disgusted at Josh "I raped my own sisters" Duggar.

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe

Chilichimp posted:

Is there literally anyone out there going, "but think of the pedophiles"?

You know the answer is yes, and that disingenuous actors would have little trouble finding them to "prove" their point.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
If Matt Walsh's wife divorced him, what's the over/under on him being the deadbeatest of deadbeat dads?

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Phone posted:

If Matt Walsh's wife divorced him, what's the over/under on him being the deadbeatest of deadbeat dads?

I see him going the murder/suicide route

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Glassdoor doesn't have anything about the median salaries for professional truth sayers.

But in this scenario, I guess I'd be better off doing research on Cementfloor.

Octatonic
Sep 7, 2010



Like, here's the thing that really infuriates me about this: trans people were already using bathrooms, had been for decades. Trans inclusive bathrooms are the status quo. No one is forcing trans anything on anyone. The reason trans bathrooms "came out of nowhere" is entirely because conservative dickheads like Beck have made them an issue. Some people watched Orange is the New Black or something, realized that trans people exist, said "bawgahd that won't do at all" and started ramming lovely bills through state legislatures.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Octatonic posted:

Like, here's the thing that really infuriates me about this: trans people were already using bathrooms, had been for decades. Trans inclusive bathrooms are the status quo. No one is forcing trans anything on anyone. The reason trans bathrooms "came out of nowhere" is entirely because conservative dickheads like Beck have made them an issue. Some people watched Orange is the New Black or something, realized that trans people exist, said "bawgahd that won't do at all" and started ramming lovely bills through state legislatures.

That and the right needed a new boogeyman.

Octatonic
Sep 7, 2010

ToxicSlurpee posted:

That and the right needed a new boogeyman.

Yeah, the tail is wagging the gently caress out of this dog and it makes me feel like a crazy person.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

ToxicSlurpee posted:

That and the right needed a new boogeyman.

depends who wins in the GOP game of thrones. I doubt trump cares that much about LGBT. sure he will probaly turn against them and he wont stop the southern states from loving them over, but they wont be a main focus.it will probably be muslims/peope who look muslim and south americans. if he loses and the christian right survives somehow, it will be LGBT still.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

ToxicSlurpee posted:

That and the right needed a new boogeyman.

It's really just this. They can't openly rage against minorities or gay people without some response (far less of one than normal, these days, but still), so transgenders are just the right mix of rare, unsettling to outdated societal roles, and have the good old "they could be anyone" quality to be the next target. At least for a while.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Geostomp posted:

It's really just this. They can't openly rage against minorities or gay people without some response (far less of one than normal, these days, but still), so transgenders are just the right mix of rare, unsettling to outdated societal roles, and have the good old "they could be anyone" quality to be the next target. At least for a while.

It isn't getting much traction outside of the ever shrinking right wing hate sphere. They just can't generate enough anger and after so much time crying wolf a poo poo load of people are going "meh, whatever."

Even the righties I know that usually post typical right wing bullshit on the Facebox are mostly going "yeah you know what? This is loving stupid."

ManlyGrunting
May 29, 2014
I can't help but wonder if they actually sped up transgender rights by thrusting it into the spotlight; a lot of people accuse the LGBT community of throwing transgendered people under the bus for political gains and (while this is purely anecdotal) most people I've talked to seemed to be under the impression that trans acceptance wouldn't hit the same level gays have for another decade or so. But now all of a sudden you've got a ferocious backlash against them from a shrinking group attacking from a seriously weak angle who have had a really bad track record against pretty much every other minority you can name, and I can't help but wonder if this might result in a pushback that makes transgendered people more of a spotlight issue and therefore make it easier for them to push the same "hey we are literally just people and we aren't sick, and refuse to be ashamed of how we were born" tactic that worked so well for the LBG community.

At least I really hope so, it seems like a likely best-case-scenario of this whole clusterfuck :unsmith:

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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ManlyGrunting posted:

I can't help but wonder if they actually sped up transgender rights by thrusting it into the spotlight; a lot of people accuse the LGBT community of throwing transgendered people under the bus for political gains and (while this is purely anecdotal) most people I've talked to seemed to be under the impression that trans acceptance wouldn't hit the same level gays have for another decade or so. But now all of a sudden you've got a ferocious backlash against them from a shrinking group attacking from a seriously weak angle who have had a really bad track record against pretty much every other minority you can name, and I can't help but wonder if this might result in a pushback that makes transgendered people more of a spotlight issue and therefore make it easier for them to push the same "hey we are literally just people and we aren't sick, and refuse to be ashamed of how we were born" tactic that worked so well for the LBG community.

At least I really hope so, it seems like a likely best-case-scenario of this whole clusterfuck :unsmith:

I'm pretty sure it's already happening. They basically found a boogeyman and shoved it in front of the spotlight...and being confused because the nation is calling the conservative asshats monsters and not the transgender people. It doesn't help that they keep getting caught creeping on people to make sure they have the right genitals, or outright assaulting people who aren't feminine or masculine enough for their ideal mental image of a girl/guy.

CortezFantastic
Aug 10, 2003

I SEE DEMONS
Matt Walsh is waxing poetic about what makes a man in 2016. Apparently it is everything he does and says!!

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/734917306988396545

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Alkydere posted:

I'm pretty sure it's already happening. They basically found a boogeyman and shoved it in front of the spotlight...and being confused because the nation is calling the conservative asshats monsters and not the transgender people. It doesn't help that they keep getting caught creeping on people to make sure they have the right genitals, or outright assaulting people who aren't feminine or masculine enough for their ideal mental image of a girl/guy.

Another big issue is that the right is losing the support of the middle and the moderates. They've gone full on hate boner sociopath at this point and telling people that aren't super duper hateful that they aren't real Republicans. You really see this in the whole Trump thing; the super right wing hate machine was like "gently caress yeah! He hates brown people and the poors! He's our guy!" while everybody else is like "uuuuuuhhh what." While a lot of them are going to hold their noses and vote R anyway it's actually a huge issue for the right at the moment. They've become so angry and hateful that a lot of people are saying "yeah you know what? Back it off guys we went too far."

In the case of LGBT issues when being gay became more tolerable socially and more and more people came out pretty much everybody realized that they had a gay friend or relative but didn't know it yet. When aunt Sally comes out of the closet and introduces you to her girlfriend of 15 years it can be hard to keep the hate strong. It isn't a big leap from there to "you know trans people are alright too."

ToxicSlurpee fucked around with this message at 04:28 on May 24, 2016

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Ohhhh sure, they nominate an 80s cartoon villian for president and all of a sudden now spideys a menace again? Someone get Umberto in here.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

CortezFantastic posted:

Matt Walsh is waxing poetic about what makes a man in 2016. Apparently it is everything he does and says!!

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/734917306988396545

I am just happy episode 7 was great. :)



ToxicSlurpee posted:

Another big issue is that the right is losing the support of the middle and the moderates. They've gone full on hate boner sociopath at this point and telling people that aren't super duper hateful that they aren't real Republicans. You really see this in the whole Trump thing; the super right wing hate machine was like "gently caress yeah! He hates brown people and the poors! He's our guy!" while everybody else is like "uuuuuuhhh what." While a lot of them are going to hold their noses and vote R anyway it's actually a huge issue for the right at the moment. They've become so angry and hateful that a lot of people are saying "yeah you know what? Back it off guys we went too far."

In the case of LGBT issues when being gay became more tolerable socially and more and more people came out pretty much everybody realized that they had a gay friend or relative but didn't know it yet. When aunt Sally comes out of the closet and introduces you to her girlfriend of 15 years it can be hard to keep the hate strong. It isn't a big leap from there to "you know trans people are alright too."

honestly. trans acceptance is happening faster then i expected it too. which is nice. My guess is the right/or at least the trumpist will turn to muslims as the new boogeyman. as well as South Americans, especially if and when Venezuela collapses(it will soon) and their is a massive refugee crisis because of it.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



CortezFantastic posted:

Matt Walsh is waxing poetic about what makes a man in 2016. Apparently it is everything he does and says!!

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/734917306988396545

Guarantee the last book he read was some young adult garbage

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum

CortezFantastic posted:

Matt Walsh is waxing poetic about what makes a man in 2016. Apparently it is everything he does and says!!

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/734917306988396545

He does realize children grow into adults right? And things that people liked as children could be liked and liked much more in adulthood, otherwise those comics wouldn't have survived the Golden Age of Comics. Otherwise how do you explain all the Libertarians that still read Rand?

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Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Epic High Five posted:

Guarantee the last book he read was some young adult garbage

I have a really hard time imagining Walsh reading or doing anything that gives him pleasure. The last thing he read was probably just a huge pamphlet of aborted fetus pictures with bible quote captions so he can get enraged on his time off from the outrage factory

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