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Randy on VSL about to preview a new card; immediately says "whoops there's technical problems."
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Stream cuts to the PT Shadows Over Innistrad top 8.
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May 25, 2016 04:47
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He's restarting it again lol He's just going to tell us what the card is if it fails again lol
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May 25, 2016 04:50
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It's just Nevinyrral's Disk with art that doesn't' involve tentacles. Last seen in a Commander precon.
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May 25, 2016 04:52
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 Brand new disdainful looking Jace counterspell. But with superior no flavor text. 
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May 25, 2016 05:29
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 Also, this confirms Counterbalance as not in the set (but really, lol if you thought they'd put Counter-Top in limited)
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May 25, 2016 05:29
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:
Getting a two rare combo in limited with a much broader range of cmc seems fine actually. Counterbalance rarely sees play in cube and that format is friendlier to the combo than booster draft. E: especially since we now know fetches aren't in ema.
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May 25, 2016 05:38
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As someone who has no dog in the fight, Strix seems like an uncommon. A powerful uncommon, albeit, but it's a blocker + cantrip. That doesn't seem to be on the power level of Deluge, Top, Tutor, or Maze of Ith.
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May 25, 2016 05:56
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Strix is basically the best Elvish Visionary ever.Angry Grimace posted:
Cabal Therapy is great at uncommon. That's a $13 card right now. Also Counterspell is a common? If that and Mongoose are the power level of commons, I cant wait to draft this. Stick Swords To Plowshares at common, too.
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May 25, 2016 06:02
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mcmagic posted:What the hell was this card ever played in? It saw play a million years ago when the oath decks were ug and would beat down with treetop villages while you avoided playing creatures because you either did not have them in your deck or because it would get them Morphling. It was a different time.
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May 25, 2016 06:09
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Fish Of Doom posted:Strix is basically the best Elvish Visionary ever. I'm willing to bet Swords is still uncommon. Its been uncommon in literally every set its been in (not counting FTV).
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May 25, 2016 06:14
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:
 at high school pictures lazer background jace.
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May 25, 2016 06:31
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P-papa Nurgle? Are you feeling ok? You look... healthy   Elyv posted:Reid Duke played Praetor's Grasp in VSL and now Storm vs Landstill is a Monastery Mentor match. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzfkxAC-Bw8 So now we have Kaio-ken Jace to go with SSJace?
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May 25, 2016 06:33
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Lots of people demonstrating no idea of what's powerful and what's not in limited itt. Plus the real combo with counterbalance would be self milling and epitaph golem  But seriously baleful strix is an absurd rate outside of a cube format. Zoness fucked around with this message at 08:52 on May 25, 2016 |
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May 25, 2016 08:44
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May 25, 2016 09:38
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Completely unnecessary Nevvy's Disk reprint. Wish it had been O-Stone.
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May 25, 2016 10:25
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JerryLee posted:
This isn't really fair to Wizards. I don't think they ever intended to "deliberately engineer" the current situation with old Reserve List cards. You have to understand that when they made Chronicles, the set that led to the Reserve List, they were still reeling from Fallen Empires, a set which was a failure on every level, not to mention their first huge misstep. People were really starting to wonder if CCGs had legs or were just going to be the next 90s fad. The Reserve List was a promise made in order to keep the favor needed to keep selling cards. They had no idea 21 years later this game would still be going and that this would be the problem it is now. Now if you want to talk about Mythic rarities being deliberately engineered to inflate secondary prices I still think that's not deliberate, but rather a side effect of trying to sell more booster boxes. Edit: I really want to stress how bad Fallen Empires was for anyone not playing during that time. The cards were almost ALL total garbage in a time where most cards were not good. Also, they overprinted it to such an extent that for 2-3 years after release you could buy booster boxes for $20 because retailers would rather take the bath on it than continue having it take up space. Hail Mr. Satan! fucked around with this message at 10:46 on May 25, 2016 |
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May 25, 2016 10:43
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That doesn't explain why they later decided to double-down on the reserved list and also bar themselves from reprinting them as promotional cards.
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May 25, 2016 11:06
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Also their own self imposed ban on functional reprints
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May 25, 2016 11:22
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rabidsquid posted:Also their own self imposed ban on functional reprints Functional reprints were part of the original reserve list promise. I asked a page or two back and am still extremely curious. What happens in a tournament if your opponent claims you're using fake cards? Where does the judge's authority begin and end on the topic? With the different quality of official print runs, it seems like it'd be very hard to accurately identify with certainty good counterfeits. Hail Mr. Satan! fucked around with this message at 12:32 on May 25, 2016 |
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May 25, 2016 12:27
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A Fancy Bloke posted:This isn't really fair to Wizards. Fallen Empires happened because stores were used to not getting full orders, so they would order double what they wanted and get roughly the right amount. Wizards said alright we got this printing thing nailed down, just order what you want! And they still ordered double. And got all of it
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May 25, 2016 12:44
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Literally The Worst posted:Fallen Empires happened because stores were used to not getting full orders, so they would order double what they wanted and get roughly the right amount. Wizards said alright we got this printing thing nailed down, just order what you want! And they still ordered double. And got all of it Right, but that wouldn't have been a problem if it weren't a total garbage set.
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May 25, 2016 12:46
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A Fancy Bloke posted:Functional reprints were part of the original reserve list promise. They can't compel you to let them unsleeve and fondle your cards, but they can certainly remove you from the event. If you aren't allowed to play a sanctioned event with fake cards, and you refuse to let a judge investigate a claim, he or she would really have no choice but to drop you from the event.
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May 25, 2016 13:11
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May 25, 2016 13:41
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It looks like you have unexpectedly absent from looking at the last few pages of spoilers.
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May 25, 2016 13:43
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Samael posted:It looks like you have unexpectedly absent from looking at the last few pages of spoilers. Really? where was it posted ITT?
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May 25, 2016 14:00
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jassi007 posted:They can't compel you to let them unsleeve and fondle your cards, but they can certainly remove you from the event. If you aren't allowed to play a sanctioned event with fake cards, and you refuse to let a judge investigate a claim, he or she would really have no choice but to drop you from the event.
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May 25, 2016 14:11
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It looks like all the good cards are spoiled and now we are just getting the chaff.
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May 25, 2016 14:12
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jassi007 posted:They can't compel you to let them unsleeve and fondle your cards, but they can certainly remove you from the event. If you aren't allowed to play a sanctioned event with fake cards, and you refuse to let a judge investigate a claim, he or she would really have no choice but to drop you from the event. Okay, but let's say you let them unsleeve and look at them. They aren't experts at counterfeit cards. If they are good fakes, with the inconsistencies of official print runs being what they are, should a judge even be expected or empowered to rule on it? Note I am only talking about good fakes, not easily spottable ones.
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May 25, 2016 14:16
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Ugh this was SUCH a good card in Commander (where it was originally printed) until stupid Sheldon and the RC removed the tuck rule.
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May 25, 2016 14:17
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A Fancy Bloke posted:Ugh this was SUCH a good card in Commander (where it was originally printed) until stupid Sheldon and the RC removed the tuck rule. tuck can gently caress itself
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May 25, 2016 14:18
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I guess this is fine to draft but another feel bad rare to open...
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May 25, 2016 14:21
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Literally The Worst posted:tuck can gently caress itself Tuck was a really good check on a few extremely abusive commanders
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May 25, 2016 14:21
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A Fancy Bloke posted:Tuck was a really good check on a few extremely abusive commanders and the rest of the time it was fuckin awful
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May 25, 2016 14:21
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A Fancy Bloke posted:Okay, but let's say you let them unsleeve and look at them. They aren't experts at counterfeit cards. If they are good fakes, with the inconsistencies of official print runs being what they are, should a judge even be expected or empowered to rule on it? So really you're asking "what if they say a real card is a fake" I don't know. Depends on the event, if it was a GP for example I'd appeal to the HJ, I'd also ask if we could have some vendors check it out. I'd trust Ben Bleweiss at SCG more than any random L2 to determine a fake when it comes down to it. If it is a pptq type event and there really isn't anyone to appeal to I'd probably make sure to get the judges name and let them know I'd appeal to the DCI and file a report with the regional coordinator. I don't know what would happen from there, but sometimes bad judge calls happen at an event and at some point you have to accept that right now there is no recourse. I think truth be told judges knowing they aren't experts are more likely to err on the side of caution and not call a card fake unless someone can offer pretty solid evidence.
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May 25, 2016 14:26
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jassi007 posted:So really you're asking "what if they say a real card is a fake" Not really so much as asking just what happens if it's not an easily identifiable fake. quote:I don't know. Depends on the event, if it was a GP for example I'd appeal to the HJ, I'd also ask if we could have some vendors check it out. I'd trust Ben Bleweiss at SCG more than any random L2 to determine a fake when it comes down to it. If it is a pptq type event and there really isn't anyone to appeal to I'd probably make sure to get the judges name and let them know I'd appeal to the DCI and file a report with the regional coordinator. I don't know what would happen from there, but sometimes bad judge calls happen at an event and at some point you have to accept that right now there is no recourse. I think truth be told judges knowing they aren't experts are more likely to err on the side of caution and not call a card fake unless someone can offer pretty solid evidence. That's more what I was looking for. The steps of going to vendors seems super time consuming.
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May 25, 2016 14:52
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 The pit fighter legends used to be so drat cool and now they're so drat bad 
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May 25, 2016 15:11
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That is some really bad art.
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May 25, 2016 15:12
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Snacksmaniac posted:That is some really bad art. It's a really bad card too.
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May 25, 2016 15:15
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Snacksmaniac posted:That is some really bad art. Especially since it doesn't resemble old Rorix that much. Which is a shame when Bladewing the Risen and Tarox Bladewing kept the whole spindly neck thing going. Rorix is now just "a dragon." Perhaps with a longer neck than usual but not distinctly.
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