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If you want tracked vehicles that support infantry by blowing up other infantry, that's self-propelled artillery.
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1337JiveTurkey posted:If you want tracked vehicles that support infantry by blowing up other infantry, that's self-propelled artillery. Except that self-propelled artillery had very poor armor, while assault guns are heavily armored.
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May 25, 2016 23:00
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Hoi 4 is a very moddable game. You can easily add assault guns.
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May 25, 2016 23:02
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ArchangeI posted:Except that self-propelled artillery had very poor armor, while assault guns are heavily armored. So an SPG variant with added armor.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Hoi 4 is a very moddable game. You can easily add assault guns. Or just put armor points on self propelled artillery
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May 25, 2016 23:05
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You're adorable little cannons on wheels will be useless in the face of Maxter Gundam punching Berlin to death.
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May 25, 2016 23:11
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ArchangeI posted:Except that self-propelled artillery had very poor armor, while assault guns are heavily armored. That shouldn't be a problem if you can increase its armor with combat experience.
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A_Raving_Loon posted:So an SPG variant with added armor. +50% armor from 1 base armor is not quite as much as +50% armor from 10 base armor. Proper assault guns would have tank-like base armor.
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May 25, 2016 23:18
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Personally, I hope that the Submarines for the US Navy accurately model the flavors of ice cream the on-board ice cream machines can prepare, as well as their notorious habit of breaking down and leaking. I mean, why even bother making a game if it isn't going to have flawless historical detail? Paradox is the real Hitler here.
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May 25, 2016 23:49
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On an unrelated note: I really hope that they add in something where you can turn certain theaters over to the AI, with a set of goals. I do not want to micro the pacific
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May 26, 2016 00:11
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Zaodai posted:Personally, I hope that the Submarines for the US Navy accurately model the flavors of ice cream the on-board ice cream machines can prepare, as well as their notorious habit of breaking down and leaking. I mean, why even bother making a game if it isn't going to have flawless historical detail? the US gets a national spirit "BuOrd" that prevents all torpedoes from working for 3 years.
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TeenageArchipelago posted:On an unrelated note: I really hope that they add in something where you can turn certain theaters over to the AI, with a set of goals. I do not want to micro the pacific read the dev diaries doofus
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May 26, 2016 00:32
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Game does not have a bazillion exponential gun types and specific tank ammo. Pre-order cancelled.
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May 26, 2016 00:33
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Just so you guys know you can make multiple variants and have them all in service. poo poo you could theoretically have some of every vehicle in the game in active service at the same time with the really cool looking production system
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TeenageArchipelago posted:On an unrelated note: I really hope that they add in something where you can turn certain theaters over to the AI, with a set of goals. I do not want to micro the pacific Yeah, there should be some way to plan your battles. Something like...a battleplaner. Maybe something for a DLC. Phi230 posted:Just so you guys know you can make multiple variants and have them all in service. Looking forward to the system breaking down if you have two TD variants in production at the same time and assigning Great War tanks as the highest priority replacements instead.
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May 26, 2016 00:42
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Stairmaster posted:read the dev diaries doofus No
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If I zoom into the map enough will it load a CoH match for me?
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Zaodai posted:Paradox is the real Hitler here. Unless you live in Germany, then they are only Hitler's shadow.
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May 26, 2016 01:20
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Hammerstein posted:Unless you live in Germany, then they are only Hitler's shadow. Shadow Hitler: the new horror movie from M. Night Shyamalan.
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If people are flipping their poo poo that Paradox removed some racist mod I can't imagine the fuckfest thats going to occur once HoI 4 mods hit the workshop.
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apparently and i say apparently with the flattest tone ever conceived by man but apparently they took it down because it lead to a dude's nazi channel except the channel wasn't pro-nazi at all it just kinda looked that way from the titles and people got all frowny because of that apparently the mod itself is bad tho
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Pop and Loch Nessy posted:If people are flipping their poo poo that Paradox removed some racist mod I can't imagine the fuckfest thats going to occur once HoI 4 mods hit the workshop. quote:What do you mean my mod letting players comit genocide is getting taken down? This is a history game, right?
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Gamerofthegame posted:apparently http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...n&ct=clnk&gl=br It was to this vid, about how liberalism will fade away but the Aryan race is eternal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gc1qF-25O0
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May 26, 2016 01:47
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Something less expensive than a tank with tank armour and a tank gun is pretty obviously distinct from either expensive thinly armoured indirect fire weapon systems, or dedicated tank destroyers.
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Ughhhhhhhhhh.
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May 26, 2016 04:21
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When will Paradox do a dev diary on the COBRA Unit mechanics and how the Boss being pregnant at D-Day only made the Nazis die faster.
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Frosted Flake posted:Something less expensive than a tank with tank armour and a tank gun is pretty obviously distinct from either expensive thinly armoured indirect fire weapon systems, or dedicated tank destroyers. Seems to me the addition of assault guns wouldn't really fill a niche so they're better off split between TDs and SPART
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If it has tank armor and a tank gun, why is it less expensive and not a tank? Is it all wrapped around a covered wagon? [EDIT] Oh, it's an Esquilax. The horse born with the head of a rabbit, and the body... of a rabbit! Zaodai fucked around with this message at 04:40 on May 26, 2016 |
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This thread has made me glad this isn't a grognard game, just a paradox game. I'd rather have a game set during WW2 than a simulation of WW2.
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May 26, 2016 05:06
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I'd rather a game set during the second weltkrieg, but the political focuses of the majors will be good enough for now.
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Zaodai posted:If it has tank armor and a tank gun, why is it less expensive and not a tank? Is it all wrapped around a covered wagon? Historically, the custom-built fully armoured assault guns usually mounted the gun or howitzer in a fully enclosed casemate on a tank chassis. The use of a casemate instead of a turret limited these weapons' field of fire, but allowed a larger gun to be fitted relative to the chassis, more armour to be fitted for the same weight, and provided a cheaper construction.
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PleasingFungus posted:Historically, the custom-built fully armoured assault guns usually mounted the gun or howitzer in a fully enclosed casemate on a tank chassis. The use of a casemate instead of a turret limited these weapons' field of fire, but allowed a larger gun to be fitted relative to the chassis, more armour to be fitted for the same weight, and provided a cheaper construction. I appreciate the serious answer, I was mostly just being an rear end about it. It's just weird to read both this thread and the wargame thread. In the wargame thread they joke about the grogs on various official forums for the "real" grog games because they're pedantic autistic lunatics, and then in here there's the same kind of bitching because HoI4 too casual or not realistic enough. The variant system seems to let people make an approximation of what they want, even if they don't get hyper-realistic OOBs and little decorative nameplates for which of the 34 real life variants of whatever tank it was. If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, and it goes good with soy sauce, it's probably close enough to a duck you can tweak a variant to your liking for dinner.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I'd rather a game set during the second weltkrieg, but the political focuses of the majors will be good enough for now. Speaking of that, what's the word on Kaiserreich for hoi4? Is it going to be developed?
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sudo rm -rf posted:Speaking of that, what's the word on Kaiserreich for hoi4? Is it going to be developed? I think it will be. There was a general enthusiasm for most of the systems involved in HoI4 allowing more alt-history scenarios, which could play well into Kaiserreich with National Focus trees for the majors.
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Enjoy posted:Seems to me the addition of assault guns wouldn't really fill a niche so they're better off split between TDs and SPART You don't think a high armor, high soft attack vehicle would fill a different niche from a high armor, high hard attack vehicle and a low armor, high soft attack vehicle?
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ArchangeI posted:You don't think a high armor, high soft attack vehicle would fill a different niche from a high armor, high hard attack vehicle and a low armor, high soft attack vehicle? Look at the niche it is filling SPART: when you're facing mostly infantry TD: when you're facing tanks Tanks: when you're facing a mix What would assault guns be for?
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Enjoy posted:Look at the niche it is filling Assault guns would be cheaper than tanks, would have a huge bonus defensively against tanks but a malus offensively against tanks while at the same time hardening an infantry division against other infantry divisions.
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GaussianCopula posted:Assault guns would be cheaper than tanks, would have a huge bonus defensively against tanks but a malus offensively against tanks while at the same time hardening an infantry division against other infantry divisions. I don't think there have been any announcements about units having different abilities against different enemy types, has there? There'd be no way of making them worse against tanks offensively, only worse offensively in general Without that element, you are just left with "like tanks but cheaper", which isn't such a big niche really
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Enjoy posted:Look at the niche it is filling For facing infantry with good At weapons, which would destroy SPART in short order?
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Enjoy posted:I don't think there have been any announcements about units having different abilities against different enemy types, has there? There'd be no way of making them worse against tanks offensively, only worse offensively in general There's two different types of damage, soft damage for anti-infantry, and unarmoured vehicles and hard damage for armoured targets.
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