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at the date posted:Marxism is itself historical fiction so #ShotsFired #rekt #wow
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at the date posted:Marxism is itself historical fiction so So bourgie
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Is't kool-aid man "drinking the kool aid" kind of cannibalistic? but so is capitalist society, so it's appropiate?
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unao posted:Is't kool-aid man "drinking the kool aid" kind of cannibalistic? mind... BLOWN!!!!
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unao is a cool and good addition to this cool and good thread
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Hiii! question time! Amerikkkans, What are your most wanted contemporary poets? (Within a loose definition of contemporary, maybe eighties and onwards)
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Bob Dylan and Alanis Morissette
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Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:Bob Dylan and Alanis Morissette  ok, fine PAPER poets
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unao posted:Hiii! question time! Amerikkkans, What are your most wanted contemporary poets? (Within a loose definition of contemporary, maybe eighties and onwards) Um, Louise Gluck, James Tate, and Kim Addonizio are all great. I like Sherman Alexie's poetry, though he's maybe better known for his prose. Maybe Sarah Gridley and Joshua Poteat for some younger folks.
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unao posted:Hiii! question time! Amerikkkans, What are your most wanted contemporary poets? (Within a loose definition of contemporary, maybe eighties and onwards) Natasha Trethaway and Claudia Rankine come to mind. Honestly, if poetry isn't dead in the US it at least sits on a hospital bed surrounded by crying loved ones. P.S. sorry havent responded to your pm yet, been busy. Will soon.
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Dana Gioia is pretty darn good, although he uses his position as a nationally recognized poet to publish wordy insipid opinions on things like Beauty.
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May 20, 2016 21:56
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Can't really talk about contemporary American poetry without mentioning John Ashbery. He is not for everyone, and some people hate him, but he's super prolific, very influential, and has won basically every single poetry award in the world. Definitely one of the best living American poets, though he probably won't be around much longer. But mostly this: quote:Honestly, if poetry isn't dead in the US it at least sits on a hospital bed surrounded by crying loved ones. It's sad to pick up a poetry collection and see that 99 out of 100 people published in it are sexagenarian poetry professors, most of whom know each other on a personal basis. edit: -v 
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Ok, thanks for those answers! I will look them more in-depht later, but right now i'm wrestling an old fart i like to call John Ashbery. I bought breezeway on amazon and what the gently caress. It looks like the kind of postmodern verse i love, but even more so. the usual cultural garbage re-porpoused, the non poetic language, and the disjointment of each sentence with the next are here, but somehow more disorienting than usual. It's "poemas y antipoemas" extended forever, it's what may have happened if rodrigo lira didn't kill himself at thirty two, and instead keep doing the same things he did forever, more alienated (and not more distant, but more close) with each iteration. I may not be sure of what i'm reading, but (and here may be some hyperbole on it's quality) it flashes it's own kind of brillance so often that i think it is brilliant, in the way a movie is not a moving image, but a non-stop sucession of stills. In definitive, i may be disoriented and confused about what any of this geezers writing is, but it's like a tootsie pop. I may not know how many readings it takes, but i know eventually you get tootsie roll. Also reading it aloud is so nice.
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May 20, 2016 23:37
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Just bite the darn thing like Mr. Owl
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Mover posted:Um, Louise Gluck, James Tate, and Kim Addonizio are all great. I like Sherman Alexie's poetry, though he's maybe better known for his prose. James Tate is cool and funny, his old stuff is nutso but I like his semi-recent things best. His latest one is just okay though, too bad.
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Edit: I just read what i wrote and it made no goddamn sense. Goddamn john ashbery has me thinking queer I dislike low content posts, so i think the least i can do is sharing this: http://hyperallergic.com/259942/two-poems-by-emily-skillings/ I write sometimes and feel that if i wrote good it would be like that. So i like it. Similar artistic inclinations and stuff unao fucked around with this message at 06:57 on May 21, 2016 |
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my fav Latvian poet has a collection out in English, so check him out, i guess? https://books.google.es/books?id=3x7WSxhKlA0C&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3. There'll also be a collectino out in Spanish this year or next.
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May 21, 2016 07:19
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Thanks to whoever in this thread recommended David Vann. I just finished Goat Mountain and it was really good, though also exceptionally horrifying and exhausting.
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Vann Clan grows stronger
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All Quiet on the Western Front is really good, funny how reading this after having experienced much anti-war culture, movies and books and such, makes all the things after it seem like they are merely rewritting this book.
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Apropos of nothing, but I have a new favourite bit of marginalia. In a book on Anglo-Saxons, in a section discussing language, the author makes a passing reference to the Scots and the Picts:
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End Of Worlds posted:Apropos of nothing, but I have a new favourite bit of marginalia. In a book on Anglo-Saxons, in a section discussing language, the author makes a passing reference to the Scots and the Picts: It's like a small forum, made of paper. 
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Not sure who's wrong there, engaging with the Germanic raiders is probably what they did with lots of miming, pointing, shouting loudly in their own language and violent stabbing. Pictish is a completely lost language, possibly because they spoke like the Gaelic equivalent of Irish travellers. We do know they couldn't write themselves, and that nobody else could understand what the gently caress they were saying, even if it was a version of Gaelic, so didn't write anything they said down other than a few phonetic versions of place names. Which isn't actually that different to people trying to understand the Orcadian accent today.
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I just finished Dictionary of the Khazars. I can't say I enjoyed reading it but by the end I liked the book. I'm reading Borges Ficciones in Spanish - another slog given my Spanish but rewarding so far.
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End Of Worlds posted:Apropos of nothing, but I have a new favourite bit of marginalia. In a book on Anglo-Saxons, in a section discussing language, the author makes a passing reference to the Scots and the Picts: I love this, and want to call someone a Pictish idiot. I just started The North Water. I really like it so far, but there's no way McGuire didn't pitch the drat thing as "Blood Meridian on a boat."
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What's the good Chinese poetry I'm also willing to accept prose suggestions even tho it's objectively inferior as an art form thank you
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read some misty poets, then rummage through http://www.asymptotejournal.com/ archive, maybe buy Empty Chairs, and you'll be ready to pose as an expert
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unao posted:Hiii! question time! Amerikkkans, What are your most wanted contemporary poets? (Within a loose definition of contemporary, maybe eighties and onwards) Denis Johnson's The Incognito Lounge and Joshua Beckman's Shake are two of my favorite collections but I don't know poetry from a hole in the ground.
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I read a cool collection of Bengali short stories and because I like to proceed vaguely thematically through my bookshelfs and the only in-any-real-way-related thing I had was Monica Ali's Brick Lane I picked that up and I assume it's bad but is it as bad as I assume? I mean it was written in English so I can only be positively surprised
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Burning Rain posted:read some misty poets, then rummage through http://www.asymptotejournal.com/ archive, maybe buy Empty Chairs, and you'll be ready to pose as an expert I should have mentioned I literally live in China atm so nothing too dissident pls these look cool tho
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CestMoi posted:I should have mentioned I literally live in China atm so nothing too dissident pls these look cool tho lol
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CestMoi posted:What's the good Chinese poetry I'm also willing to accept prose suggestions even tho it's objectively inferior as an art form thank you Is Mao's poetry any good?
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CestMoi posted:I should have mentioned I literally live in China atm so nothing too dissident pls these look cool tho How's the weather up there?
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I just finished Blindness so thank you thread for the recommendation
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Remember Me Like This is a good book that is all
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A human heart posted:Is Mao's poetry any good? I'll buy some and get back to you Mr. Squishy posted:How's the weather up there? It's very warm here Mr. Squishy. Bordering on uncomfortably so, imho
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Great week for books coming up We got Homegoing, Grief is a Thing with Feathers, and The Good Lieutenant
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Great week for books coming up http://www.amazon.com/Grief-Thing-Feathers/dp/0571323766 The cover makes Grief look like a book from the 50s.
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