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Could I ask for a game review? https://online-go.com/game/5241383 I won this game, but just barely (by 5.5 points). The reason I'm asking for a review is that I thought black had a really bad opening (he played in a really over-concentrated way), so I felt like I should have had a much bigger lead. I didn't lose any big groups, but somehow, we ended up having roughly equally sized territories. So either: 1) I'm completely wrong about black's opening being bad -or- 2) Black's opening was actually bad, but I made strategic decisions during the game that didn't take advantage of black's opening Either way I feel like I could learn a lot from this game so I would really appreciate a review!
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sunaurus posted:Could I ask for a game review? https://online-go.com/game/5241383 Generally you did fine, and black's opening was really bad. He put all of his territory in one basically uninvadable spot and banked on being able to make 2-point territories inside yours. When someone does that, the key is to find opportunities to reduce his territory while growing your own. That generally means being more ambitious about reducing the edges of his territories than you were. There were a number of times you could have A few key points: 20: Why block in this direction? If you block the other way, you make a bigger territory, and white is already strong int he lower right, so any thickness you build here isn't that effective. 24: Another chance to switch direction by playing at around S5 since black didn't play S5. Black's already low on the bottom, so switching to S5 would both keep black low on the bottom and get you more of the right side. 26: P1 is small endgame. Don't play moves like this, as it asks him to fix a weakness while keeping sente. 34ff: All of these do expand your middle and reduce his some, but they also strengthen his middle so you can't go in a little deeper later. If you're going to go here, what would he do if you played L8 or L9? By being more ambitious, he either has to risk a fight that would destroy his entire middle territory or cede more reduction to you. 58: I would have played C18 - C13 limits how far black can go on the left side, and if he crawls out that way, he reduces his own lower left. 62: Again, don't do this. Locally, if you just play F17, black has to either give you sente or leave a weakness behind. Your move here asks black to completely fix his weaknesses and keep sente. 68ff: You need to decide on an approach here. Are you trying to make his area smaller, your larger, or what? You're basically securing a small middle area of your own while solidifying a large area of his. I'd at least go farther into E11. 76: I'd play H11 - you're threatening more damage to his big area than he's threatening to yours. 104: This is really small, especially compared to A11 or M1 or even S4. What do you do if B ignores it? 110: Gote, compared to wither A11 or M1.
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Borachon posted:-review- Thanks so much! Borachon posted:20: Why block in this direction? If you block the other way, you make a bigger territory, and white is already strong int he lower right, so any thickness you build here isn't that effective. I didn't really know how to think about which side I should block on before I read this, but now I have a much better idea! Definitely makes sense now to block the other way. Overall, I should have thought more about sente, played less small endgame moves and been a bit more ambitious when reducing his territory. This all makes a lot of sense, I'll try to use it to improve in my next games.
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I'm beginning to suspect nobody with admin rights to the OGS group is posting in this thread right now. Also, that I am bad at go.
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May 15, 2016 21:33
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Invite sent.
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Oh thanks! I actually wasn't trying to be passive aggressive, in my defense These two folks may or may not have been missed too: Tigern posted:Can I get an invite to the OGS group? @tigernbutts Iceatollah posted:I decided to pick up my old go set recently, last time I played I was around 20K on KGS, probably a lot worse than that now. I want to make a concerted effort to improve my game, so I'm looking forwards to getting murdered by ya'll.
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I have admin access but I don't use OGS much so I normally only respond to KGS invite requests. Happy to be of help though. Thanks for quoting those two, I invited them too.
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I was looking for the price of go sets and I found this: http://pt.aliexpress.com/item/Free-...2664760293.html
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Can I also get an invite to the SA room on OGS? Username is sunaurus - https://online-go.com/user/view/303450
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May 16, 2016 07:43
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invite sent~
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i guess i should get in ogs too, send me an invite if thats ok booyah- https://online-go.com/user/view/324208
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May 16, 2016 08:48
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I'd like one as well. Mytea: https://online-go.com/user/view/324481
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May 16, 2016 14:37
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who's your favorite woman pro???
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I'm watching a go video right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-td9ah-cM2k In the beginning of the video, Nick Sibicky shows two positions: A)  B)  He says that A is better than B, because it leaves less room on the top for black to extend (it makes the top smaller). However, I have this knowledge from somewhere that an extension in front of an enclosure is always a big move. If white plays A and later gets the enclosure, it seems to me that the black stone in the top right corner would allow black to easily extend in front of the enclosure to neutralize some of white's influence. Until now, I would have always preferred B just because I didn't want to waste the influence of my enclosure, but I don't really know what to believe anymore. What do you guys think? sunaurus fucked around with this message at 19:29 on May 17, 2016 |
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May 17, 2016 19:24
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OGS or KGS?
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always be closing posted:OGS or KGS? I used to play on KGS, now I like OGS more. You don't need to download and install anything to play on OGS, it can send you notifications when your games start or when it's your turn in a game, the ranks seem to be closer to the EGF (which matters to me a bit because I live in Europe). From what I understand, it used to be difficult to find live games on OGS, I don't think that's the case anymore. Whenever I create a game, I get an opponent in <3 minutes.
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May 17, 2016 19:47
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sunaurus posted:
Giving black a nice approach move to work with his 4-4 stone is a lot worse than potentially not getting a good extension off of your enclosure. You're just helping black because you don't want a slightly meh result otherwise.
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AdorableStar posted:Giving black a nice approach move to work with his 4-4 stone is a lot worse than potentially not getting a good extension off of your enclosure. You're just helping black because you don't want a slightly meh result otherwise. Yeah, that really makes a lot of sense. I obviously still have a lot to learn about openings. And about everything else.
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Guess I'll stop lurking to also ask for an OGS invite. Username is kaladun - https://online-go.com/user/view/270138
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After a move a day in 200+ games over the last 3 months, OGS thinks I'm 12k now, up from 15k. I'll never share its confidence. 
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Okay, so this epic game I have been telling you about has finally concluded. And I lost... ...by 0.5 points  Before I link this game for people to see, I want to say that I am almost ecstatic about this game. Not only was I punching at a weight far above my own, but my opponent made some nice unsolicited comments in the chat window and in direct messaging and did a review, again unsolicited. This is what I love about Go and its community. A player 6+ stones superior to his opponent should by many metrics be upset by a game this close that he certainly could have lost. But Go players worship the challenge, put aside their egos and decide to work through the problems communally. Anyway, you can find this game here with his review linked on that page as well. I'd welcome any thoughts from you folks here. At some point I decided that I was ahead enough to bail out of the massive 3-step ko in the lower left and I still wonder if that was the right decision and even if it was the right decision if I executed it correctly.
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Look at this scrub who doesn't know how to hold a Go stone. (I didn't learn it either.)
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how is that guy 7k and not know the most basic corner joseki in the universe
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from his review if black plays that hane black is effed
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totino boy posted:from his review I love it when people are ignorant about white r2
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Why? White R2, black hane, white cut, black atari, then what?
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totino boy posted:who's your favorite woman pro???
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Pander posted:Why? White R2, black hane, white cut, black atari, then what? If B hanes at the head of the two stones there, W R2/B Q2/W Q5 is really ugly for B and pretty simple. W Q2/B P2/W R2/B P3/W R6 is also bad for B. Sensei's has a section on it: 4-4 Low Approach Invasion Interception
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Super longshot: Any people ITT from the Madison area and know what happened to the Go Club which used to meet Wednesday nights at Memorial Union?
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Borachon posted:If B hanes at the head of the two stones there, W R2/B Q2/W Q5 is really ugly for B and pretty simple. W Q2/B P2/W R2/B P3/W R6 is also bad for B. Sensei's has a section on it: 4-4 Low Approach Invasion Interception I think I confused W R2 with W S2. Or something. I have no idea what sequence I'm describing there. 
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Has anyone tried this yet? http://store.steampowered.com/app/479330 The price is a little steep, but the "Deep Neural Networks with Monte Carlo Tree Search" features are definitely interesting.
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Tigern posted:Has anyone tried this yet? I don't have it on Steam, so I can't speak to how it runs through them; but I do have it as a standalone product and I think it's fantastic. It's strong enough that you can play a full board unlike, say, SmartGo for iOS which doesn't really do that.
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May 26, 2016 23:47
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Isn't CrazyStone the AI developed by some singular dude?
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why the sweet god drat are they charging 80$ for that
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totino boy posted:why the sweet god drat are they charging 80$ for that I hear that for free you can play any one of millions (probably) of AI programs on OGS, KGS, or IGS.
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May 27, 2016 05:51
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You can also play against that particular AI for $3/month on iOS.
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totino boy posted:why the sweet god drat are they charging 80$ for that It's ridiculous... Charge 15-20$ it would reasonable, but I can't imagine many people would actually pay this much.
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I imagine they're trying to market it less as a steam game and more like a fancy ~~training tool~~~ but yeah lol that price
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