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when i return from my overwatch break i hope i too can play a support yasuo game
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poo poo like Yasuo or kha'zix support only works in scenarios where you and your lane partner know bot lane extremely well and when to trade and when to back off which doesn't even happen in challenger all the time so really the only situation where it's acceptable is if your like a diamond smurf playing with your bronze friends on a low level account. Maybe you can cheese someone every now and then or you luck out and they just have a really bad not combo that's exploitable but usually all you end up doing is going even at best and not buying a sight stone so you pay for it later
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May 26, 2016 18:10
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Counter-argument: HASAYO
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May 26, 2016 18:26
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RealFoxy posted:poo poo like Yasuo or kha'zix support only works in scenarios where you and your lane partner know bot lane extremely well and when to trade and when to back off which doesn't even happen in challenger all the time so really the only situation where it's acceptable is if your like a diamond smurf playing with your bronze friends on a low level account. I actually had an in-game discussion with my team that had some idiot play support Yasuo. Even though we won, I was surprised to hear everyone other than the support Yasuo inform him that he was confusing the notion that the team won with the idea being a good one. (Correlation not being causation, essentially.)
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May 26, 2016 19:07
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the idea that winning with something or doing well with something makes it good is the classic mistake people make with competitive games the battle rages on in the overwatch thread
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May 26, 2016 19:10
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exethan posted:
yasuo hard counters nami believe man
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May 26, 2016 19:10
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I had to play with this guy's Teemo He's Gold 2 "I'm drunk... wait, is this ranked???" The rest of you have no excuse 
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May 26, 2016 21:21
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i played with a dude who was still living the morde adc dream. the new dragons are actually hilarious with morde, the air one is too fast to outrun.
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May 26, 2016 21:50
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I wish Morde could enslave the spider on TT. Or if he could enslave any jungle camp and have it follow him around. Big ol' ghost army.
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May 26, 2016 21:57
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Morde is still great, he just needs a support that will go completely ham, like leona or braum. It is a kill-or-be-killed lane.
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May 26, 2016 22:03
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I don't understand what it is about bronze, but how far behind someone is -- is directly proportional to how risky their plays become. I keep getting these games where one of my allies go 0/5 and they will not stop trying to solo their 5/0 lane opponent. Then by the time laning phase is over they are 0/10 and the enemy is 10/0 and that's that. Just lost a promo round because my Darius top (with heal?) went 1/14. Good news is on average I am slowly climbing now that I switched to Sona support. She's kind of OP in bronze. If you pair with a cait or lucian it's basically impossible to lose lane.
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May 26, 2016 23:22
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LegalPad posted:I don't understand what it is about bronze, but how far behind someone is -- is directly proportional to how risky their plays become. I keep getting these games where one of my allies go 0/5 and they will not stop trying to solo their 5/0 lane opponent. Then by the time laning phase is over they are 0/10 and the enemy is 10/0 and that's that. Just lost a promo round because my Darius top (with heal?) went 1/14.
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May 26, 2016 23:24
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Fluffdaddy posted:Sometimes you find some hilarious poo poo on a profile search. "17-0 as support Dr. Mundo. Well, okay I guess!?" I guess it's kinda different with a mundo but i never trust a support that doesn't die, A zero death support means a walking corpse for an adc
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May 26, 2016 23:26
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Also this may seem crazy to you but if someone is 0/5 in lane there's a really strong chance that them "trying to solo the 5/0 enemy laner" is just them trying to exist in lane with someone they can no longer be near and dying because they thought they could CS near the tower.
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May 26, 2016 23:29
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Elfgames posted:I guess it's kinda different with a mundo but i never trust a support that doesn't die, A zero death support means a walking corpse for an adc That's silly. On an all-in support maybe but if I'm playing Janna then I'm only dying if I gently caress up hard even if my ADC is stomping lane.
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May 26, 2016 23:30
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Neurolimal posted:I wish Morde could enslave the spider on TT. Or if he could enslave any jungle camp and have it follow him around. Big ol' ghost army. No, go away, don't ever give this suggestion to Riot.
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May 26, 2016 23:30
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Elentor posted:No, go away, don't ever give this suggestion to Riot. Morde + Yorick Roam Army, 2spooky4lol
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May 26, 2016 23:32
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Fluffdaddy posted:Sometimes you find some hilarious poo poo on a profile search. "17-0 as support Dr. Mundo. Well, okay I guess!?" This is playable, if not exactly good (Mundo has very few AP/AD scalings so playing him in support is not terrible if you can land cleavers consistently). I think I won one of my plat promo games last season with a support Mundo.
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May 26, 2016 23:48
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Support Mundo's main issue is that he doesn't really bring anything into team fights other than chucking cleavers and dying really fast. He can use his cleavers to bully people out of lane but, well, the phase 'glorified minion' gets tossed around a lot but a Mundo with no gold and a support tax is literally a glorified minion.
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May 27, 2016 00:00
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rabidsquid posted:Also this may seem crazy to you but if someone is 0/5 in lane there's a really strong chance that them "trying to solo the 5/0 enemy laner" is just them trying to exist in lane with someone they can no longer be near and dying because they thought they could CS near the tower. Look, people sometimes lose their lane. The problem is when they have the mindset that they need to constantly trade even when it is obviously unfavorable. These are the people who get to 0/5 in the first place. 0/4 Darius gets killed. 0/5 Darius teleports back into lane, then immediately walks up to 5/0 Fiora and apprehends her. It's baffling.
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May 27, 2016 00:14
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what role do you play? because if it's jungler or mid just go 'hug your turret for a bit and stay safe, ill gank' after they die a few times and even if you don't get the kill you've given them some breathing room and made it so they aren't as tilted
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May 27, 2016 00:20
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Endorph posted:what role do you play? because if it's jungler or mid just go 'hug your turret for a bit and stay safe, ill gank' after they die a few times and even if you don't get the kill you've given them some breathing room and made it so they aren't as tilted Support. Yeah, I hear you. I'm still winning more games than I lose, so I'm slowly climbing, but it seriously feels like most of my losses at this point are because over the top mental breakdown tilts. Double burns on a promo.
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May 27, 2016 01:53
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Endorph posted:what role do you play? because if it's jungler or mid just go 'hug your turret for a bit and stay safe, ill gank' after they die a few times and even if you don't get the kill you've given them some breathing room and made it so they aren't as tilted In my experience that makes the 5/0 Darius into a 7/0 Darius
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May 27, 2016 02:06
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Endorph posted:what role do you play? because if it's jungler or mid just go 'hug your turret for a bit and stay safe, ill gank' after they die a few times and even if you don't get the kill you've given them some breathing room and made it so they aren't as tilted sometimes it's just better to cut that lane loose; if they keep dying and giving their paltry bounty but stall the towers being destroyed it's a better situation than sending a bunch of people to commit who'll just get multikilled and/or counterganked for free objectives.
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May 27, 2016 03:21
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Wow the animations for super galaxy kindred are dope
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May 27, 2016 03:34
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Ignite Memories posted:Morde is still great, he just needs a support that will go completely ham, like leona or braum. It is a kill-or-be-killed lane. Nautilus and Blitzcrank are the optimal supports for ADC Mordekaiser imo. Just don't go ham until both of you hit lvl 3
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May 27, 2016 03:52
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Endorph posted:Support Mundo's main issue is that he doesn't really bring anything into team fights other than chucking cleavers and dying really fast. He can use his cleavers to bully people out of lane but, well, the phase 'glorified minion' gets tossed around a lot but a Mundo with no gold and a support tax is literally a glorified minion. I'm not arguing that it's good but his attributes (strong poke which scales only with levels, manaless, tanky) make him better at support than probably half the champions in the game. If you want a truly awful support then we're talking another ADC or Warwick or Yorick or Nasus or something.
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May 27, 2016 03:55
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God drat it. Two S ranks and then an S- because the enemies dedicated themselves to suicide-killing me. Why are you so cruel, Riot scoring system
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May 27, 2016 04:05
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i haven't played sona in a long time, and i keep making really bad decisions and having horrible games. like i'm playing as badly as i used to a year ago when i played her all the time. really sucks because shes just not fun to play like this. can you play a champion too much? if this happens to janna that's it, it's over...
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May 27, 2016 04:31
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blah_blah posted:I'm not arguing that it's good but his attributes (strong poke which scales only with levels, manaless, tanky) make him better at support than probably half the champions in the game. If you want a truly awful support then we're talking another ADC or Warwick or Yorick or Nasus or something.
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May 27, 2016 04:58
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Just got out of an... enlightening match. I have 33 wins this season, prolly played 60 games. My teammates were higher up there with like 70 wins. Our entire opposing team had more than 300+ wins each. Two questions: First, how do you keep from getting discouraged when people say "Never played ranked until you have played this game 200 hours" and realize that it is the norm? Second, how do 5 people win 373+ times and stay in bronze?
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May 27, 2016 05:07
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apply the second question to the first question and you'll have the answer to both
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May 27, 2016 05:18
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KirbyKhan posted:Just got out of an... enlightening match. I have 33 wins this season, prolly played 60 games. My teammates were higher up there with like 70 wins. Our entire opposing team had more than 300+ wins each. 1. that "never play ranked until X" is a fallacy because you will get placed where you belong as you win or lose, which can range from bronze to platinum+. keep in mind Silver 4 is where the most average players belong. anything lower is below the average and higher is above average, so especially new players will probably place and stay in bronze/silver until they play a bunch of games. 2. they have more losses than wins  also, even if you play a shitload if you refuse to analytically improve your gameplay and decision-making skills you will remain a mediocre nitwit at best
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May 27, 2016 05:19
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Nothing involving ranked is permanent. The only permanent consequence of playing a ranked match is that your next ranked match will have a smaller effect on your MMR [for that season]. Ignore assholes that are demanding you play X hours before playing another part of the videogame.
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May 27, 2016 05:29
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KirbyKhan posted:Just got out of an... enlightening match. I have 33 wins this season, prolly played 60 games. My teammates were higher up there with like 70 wins. Our entire opposing team had more than 300+ wins each. Wins are a very bad measure of skill. Win rate tells more but the game actively tries to put you into fair games so it's not as useful as you might think. Most of the population will be within a few points of 50 except for the extreme outliers. Playing X games before entering ranked is only worthwhile to find your feet in League in general, and even then only if you consider it helpful to treat ranked as the 'serious' game mode. You'll end up matched with players your level and they'll deserve you as a teammate for good or for ill. The only other reason to give special weight to your ranked games is if you're playing with limited time. If you play all the time who cares if you drop a whole division or even two learning a new champ or role, you'll end up at the level of your performance and should be able to return to any previously achieved rank over time by just doing what you did before. I played a bunch of Dota doing regular stuff, then decided I was going to really learn Broodmother, who was at the time basically a bad gimmick hero. My rank plummeted and then rose again once I got better. Don't get too hung up on gaining or losing your ranked numbers, that poo poo will just happen as you get better at the game.
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May 27, 2016 05:49
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Thanks guys. Reading "uninstall ur life" for a 30 minute sitting gets you in the mood to whine. So thank you for the encouragement. Games like that are a fluke, educational, and not permenent. I gotta keep that mindset.
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May 27, 2016 06:03
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Jayce is actually pretty fun, I might take him top regularly. What sort of runes/items are we looking at? I just took standard AD/Armor/MR with AD quints, and I was stomping all over the enemy fiora so I just went straight AD with Manamune > Youmuu's > Cleaver > Maw > Death's Dance. It was hilarious Qing Jinx and Sona for half their health. Do you wanna build him like that or should he be built like a bruiser? Or does it depend on your team comp/how you're doing in lane?
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May 27, 2016 06:22
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ImpAtom posted:God drat it. Two S ranks and then an S- because the enemies dedicated themselves to suicide-killing me. Why are you so cruel, Riot scoring system It just makes sense.
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May 27, 2016 06:29
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Endorph posted:Jayce is actually pretty fun, I might take him top regularly. What sort of runes/items are we looking at? I just took standard AD/Armor/MR with AD quints, and I was stomping all over the enemy fiora so I just went straight AD with Manamune > Youmuu's > Cleaver > Maw > Death's Dance. It was hilarious Qing Jinx and Sona for half their health. Do you wanna build him like that or should he be built like a bruiser? Or does it depend on your team comp/how you're doing in lane? Everything is matchup-y/comp-y. Your basic jayce options: AD/Armour/MR (or per level) AD/Armour/CDR (prolly not there's so much cdr now in game but a lot of the items he likes don't give it) AD/Health/MR Apen/AD/Armour/MR etc. etc. Lifesteal/AD/Armour/MR Items Standard Core is: Manamune Cleaver Last Whisper item Situational addons to that core are: Maw Essence Reaver IEdge Mercurial Triforce Yomammas Death's Dance CDR boots for damage, or whatever resist or stat you need. Work out if you want to build to snowball, to poke and play for the team, or to be an assassin. If you build sheen/crit you can murder a squishy but it's really strong with his W. If you're going to play more of a poke/backline style, go with the pen/cdr build with flat AD/CDR/Apen. Strongly recommend one survivability item if you don't have hella frontline. Almost always going to be GA. Jayce is an ultrastrong mid-game champion who falls off lategame. He's better in mid than in top, since toplane he has more snowbally matchups and can be punished by the jungler more easily. His main issue lategame is that he's a glass cannon, range is short and that he has difficulty going cannon form to unload the other half of his combo if his frontline/ADC haven't already whittled the enemy down. Midgame his ability to run people down and burst them with e/q/w/r/q/auto/w/e is really powerful. Good matchups top: Darius, Jax, Garen When they go on to you you switch to hammer and disengage with e and they can't use the rest of their abilities. On the other hand if you get ganked one or twice they will just murder you by flashing to re-engage after you E. So-so ones: Nasus, Riven Nasus: You poo poo all over him early game but if you don't poo poo on him hard and then snowball like crazy he will just run you over under your own tower. Riven: One positional mistake and you're dead or popping both summoners, with ad items she'll shield or dodge your poke. lovely ones: Pantheon, Jarvan, anyone who can just jump you and stick. In mid Jayce can handle most of the popular melee champions pretty well, particularly Yasuo, Katarina. He pushes well with manamune so the long range champions are also nbd like Lux. Champions Jayce is good with: anyone who loves to run fast and can abuse acceleration gate, but who he can stand behind. Ryze, Hec, etc. Jayce sucks if you have no frontline. But you can build metagolem jayce and it's ok since he has a %hp move and high base damage and a small tank steroid on melee form.
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Taliyah support has been really fun so far, I really hope they work the kinks out of this champion. I honestly think support is the best role for her.
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