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ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Caros posted:

I think my favorite part is that after all the shitposting he's done, his permaban seems to be over something he didn't do.

Technically he didn't threaten this. He threatened to chargeback if he was banned this time and to never come back afterwards. I mean that is probably still a banable offense considering he's publicly stating he's going to commit very lovely fraud, but it is actually different from what he was banned for.

I've been both a moderator and an administrator of forums (not this one, ever, but elsewhere) and let me tell you the mods made absolutely the right decision on this one. When people even start suggesting that sort of thing you just drop the hammer and don't give second chances.

Aside from that in the case of our lord and savior jrod here he has multiple times over the course of multiple years done something the mods specifically said "don't do that anymore." At this point it should be obvious that he just doesn't respect the rules and never will.

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Caros
May 14, 2008

Oh no they made the right call without a doubt, I'd been waiting for it since the other day in fact.

I just think it's funny that they mixed up the stupid thing he was promising to do with an equally stupid different thing. Seems perfect jrod, going out like a bitch even in the end.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Who What Now posted:

Wait, I just realized that he said a libertarian has the biggest chance of convincing socialist Bernie supporters to vote for them. Haha, goddamn, I forgot just how deep in the delusions Jrod really is.

This is somewhat true but for weird reasons. A lot of people who identify as socialist or libertarian don't really understand what they're saying and are just espousing a team identification of "not major party". I've actually spoken to a number of people who identify as libertarians and supported Bernie. Usually they're very well meaning.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

RuanGacho posted:

My most memorable jrod moment is when he said I was probably an ok person but I was evil for working for government, or something like that.

I think that was before I had true full on contempt in my heart for libertarians.

I remember that! I don't know why, but for some reason that was one of the few times I was legitimately angry at Jrod. What a shithead.




My favorite Jrod memory are the times when he said welfare was destroying black families because it encouraged women to have as many kids from as many different baby-daddies as possible and men to be lazy. And then was shocked when we said that was both a lie and crazy racist. :allears:

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
I love my dead gay jrode

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Who What Now posted:

I remember that! I don't know why, but for some reason that was one of the few times I was legitimately angry at Jrod. What a shithead.




My favorite Jrod memory are the times when he said welfare was destroying black families because it encouraged women to have as many kids from as many different baby-daddies as possible and men to be lazy. And then was shocked when we said that was both a lie and crazy racist. :allears:

Dude

Time preference

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

This is somewhat true but for weird reasons. A lot of people who identify as socialist or libertarian don't really understand what they're saying and are just espousing a team identification of "not major party". I've actually spoken to a number of people who identify as libertarians and supported Bernie. Usually they're very well meaning.

While some are obviously dyed in the wood poo poo bags I think some less insane libertarians are now realizing that they've allied their ideals with actual, literal fascism. That was actually my major adventure out of the libertarian party; I realized that the way to ensure people could be free and the market free was with regulation and reduction in economic exploitation. Can't have a meritocracy if you have rampant poverty and for profit schools.

Oddly enough that was also exactly why an old gaming buddy of mine who was a very long term libertarian and even held some minor offices as a libertarian pretty recently went "wow, gently caress this poo poo" and went D. More and more people are digging deeper into the beliefs and looking at things like the increased automation happening and thinking "you know, we were wrong."

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

RuanGacho posted:

My most memorable jrod moment is when he said I was probably an ok person but I was evil for working for government, or something like that.

I think that was before I had true full on contempt in my heart for libertarians.

Who What Now posted:

I remember that! I don't know why, but for some reason that was one of the few times I was legitimately angry at Jrod. What a shithead.

He certainly had a knack for cluelessly saying the absolutely horrible things about other posters, like when he told Caros that his reasons for abandoning libertarianism, which are rooted in avoidable personal tragedy, were dumb and him just being overly emotional about things and once he finally started thinking clearly again he'd understand how precious market health care is, and how it would be utterly criminal to have universal coverage no matter how many people it saved.

I don't know how you stayed even marginally capable of talking to him, Caros.

quote:

My favorite Jrod memory are the times when he said welfare was destroying black families because it encouraged women to have as many kids from as many different baby-daddies as possible and men to be lazy. And then was shocked when we said that was both a lie and crazy racist. :allears:

And then, like he always did, utterly refused to acknowledge multiple refutations of the welfare queen myth, or even that he'd ever mentioned it in the first place.

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

Captain_Maclaine posted:

I don't know how you stayed even marginally capable of talking to him, Caros.

Yeah, you're some kind of crazy internet Boddhavista. That was ridiculously infuriating.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Captain_Maclaine posted:

He certainly had a knack for cluelessly saying the absolutely horrible things about other posters, like when he told Caros that his reasons for abandoning libertarianism, which are rooted in avoidable personal tragedy, were dumb and him just being overly emotional about things and once he finally started thinking clearly again he'd understand how precious market health care is, and how it would be utterly criminal to have universal coverage no matter how many people it saved.

I don't know how you stayed even marginally capable of talking to him, Caros.

That made me super angry too! For the same reasons.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Our Jrod was too good for this sinful, state-lousy world. He ascends into Galt's Gulch while we remain in the socialist boneyard to watch moochers ruin everything.

Even in his parting, he leaves us gifts.

"Trump is a crazy loser! now, this John McAffee guy, he's my first pick!"

Oh, that my tears were diamonds, that I could properly weep in awe rich enough for this post! NAP Avatar who flees his stateless rape bathsalt compound to come back under the sheltering wing of US socialism, just the guy to usher in the libertarian vision. Correct in so many ways, it's like an onion of layered, golden truths.

"I am a very busy entrepreneur, which is why I was away fueling the furnaces of industry and human enterprise. Now -behold- as I fail at committing petty internet fraud."

They should have sent a poet.

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008
It's finally over

:negative:

archangelwar
Oct 28, 2004

Teaching Moments
If Jrodefeld2 starts posting I swear to god I will fall over dead and have lived a perfectly complete life.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
If he becomes the new IWC of reregging and getting permabanned, then I will be just so very happy.

Caros
May 14, 2008

paragon1 posted:

If he becomes the new IWC of reregging and getting permabanned, then I will be just so very happy.

He can certainly afford it with his successful blu-ray sales.

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

archangelwar posted:

If Jrodefeld2 starts posting I swear to god I will fall over dead and have lived a perfectly complete life.

This would not surprise me in the least. What would surprise me is if he reregged with an actually catchy Libertarian themed username like Gale_Boetticher or Hoppe-ing mad :v:

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

I can imagine jrod just screaming at the monitor "BUT RATIONAL INTEREST" as his head explodes

I also don't doubt that he's definitely running a chargeback right now over ten dollars

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Man, and he had just admitted his grudging respect for SA, the only forum where his unassailable positions could actually be assailed. And to make sure that he wouldn't be banned again from his favorite forums, he threatened to run a chargeback, an idea that could only be had by a man who believes that people are only motivated by profit. Now he can never post here again, the ultimate rejection of his hubris.

It's like a twilight zone episode in here. Jrod running into the open arms of government tyranny and running a chargeback against SA is too poetic to not happen

QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 01:58 on May 27, 2016

President Kucinich
Feb 21, 2003

Bitterly Clinging to my AK47 and Das Kapital

Jrod has passed on but Valhalla DRO lives forever.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

paragon1 posted:

If he becomes the new IWC of reregging and getting permabanned, then I will be just so very happy.

I kind of wonder if he'll start posting increasingly insane things until he's another kyoon. :sax:

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

President Kucinich posted:

Jrod has passed on but Valhalla DRO lives forever.

Easily the best thread meme of *checks posts* 2014!?

My how the time flies.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

ToxicSlurpee posted:

While some are obviously dyed in the wood poo poo bags I think some less insane libertarians are now realizing that they've allied their ideals with actual, literal fascism. That was actually my major adventure out of the libertarian party; I realized that the way to ensure people could be free and the market free was with regulation and reduction in economic exploitation. Can't have a meritocracy if you have rampant poverty and for profit schools.

Oddly enough that was also exactly why an old gaming buddy of mine who was a very long term libertarian and even held some minor offices as a libertarian pretty recently went "wow, gently caress this poo poo" and went D. More and more people are digging deeper into the beliefs and looking at things like the increased automation happening and thinking "you know, we were wrong."

I've said it before but it's often easier to convert a libertarian into a socialist than it is it convert a Republican into a Democrat. Some are beyond help, of course, but a fair number are actually trying to think intelligently about their political opinions and transcend pure team-think ideology, they just aren't very good at it because there's so much more right-wing propaganda out there in American culture. If you're intelligent enough to think about politics in economic terms, you'll often start out as a libertarian, but once you start learning about concepts like market failures and behavioral economics, it's not as big a leap as you might think to pick up the hammer and sickle.

I feel sad that I just discovered this thread like today and as soon as I show up the punching bag leaves =(

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Who What Now posted:

My favorite Jrod memory are the times when he said welfare was destroying black families because it encouraged women to have as many kids from as many different baby-daddies as possible and men to be lazy. And then was shocked when we said that was both a lie and crazy racist. :allears:

Mine is the one that got him probated last time: claiming within the space of fifteen minutes that (1) the state is the biggest aggressor against minority rights and Libertarianism is the real solution to racism, and (2) we should racially profile all Arabs and blacks at all times, if you don't want to be treated like a terrorist maybe you shouldn't share a race with so many terrorists hm?

No wait that's second, my favorite was "liberals are too quick to throw around the term 'slavery' at every little thing until it becomes meaningless".

Buried alive
Jun 8, 2009
I think my favorite Jrod moment is actually more like a series of moments. Namely the multiple times he insisted that economic rights and human rights are the same thing, then cited a list of nations with markets that were more free than that of the US which just happened to contain literal, just-shy-of-actual-chattel-slavery slave states, then in an effort to get out of it stated that no you guys, economic rights and human rights are totally not the same thing.

Malleum
Aug 16, 2014

Am I the one at fault? What about me is wrong?
Buglord
It's mundane as gently caress compared to the rest of jrod's history and I'm pretty sure I only remember it because it was the only question I asked him, but I'm particularly a fan of his complete dismissal of peer review right before or right after he went and got those fillings removed. Don't trust the opinions of certified professionals published in an accredited, independent journal because BIG PHARMA and CORPORATIONS will buy them off, but go ahead and introduce a shitload of mercury into your system because the nice dentist said so :allears:

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Malleum posted:

It's mundane as gently caress compared to the rest of jrod's history and I'm pretty sure I only remember it because it was the only question I asked him, but I'm particularly a fan of his complete dismissal of peer review right before or right after he went and got those fillings removed. Don't trust the opinions of certified professionals published in an accredited, independent journal because BIG PHARMA and CORPORATIONS will buy them off, but go ahead and introduce a shitload of mercury into your system because the nice dentist said so :allears:

when you finally understand that all important facts can be ascertained by pure reason you realize that things like "peer review" and "evidence" and "expertise" and "watermelon's are for food not loving" are silly and meaningless, and therefore must only exist because frauds with no natural talents are being paid by decadent statist elites to trick guillible rubes like those people.

^^^ This is it. The fruit of my years of experimentation in distilling jrode posts down to their core essence

TLM3101
Sep 8, 2010



Buried alive posted:

I think my favorite Jrod moment is actually more like a series of moments. Namely the multiple times he insisted that economic rights and human rights are the same thing, then cited a list of nations with markets that were more free than that of the US which just happened to contain literal, just-shy-of-actual-chattel-slavery slave states, then in an effort to get out of it stated that no you guys, economic rights and human rights are totally not the same thing.

God, yes. That was absolutely amazing, especially given how he'd been hammering the "all human rights come from property rights" idiocy hard beforehand. The most infuriating moment for me, personally, was when he managed to make it about the mentally and physically disabled or handicapped or.... whatever, since that just made me livid, given that he'd made it personal, but the most enjoyable one was definitely him getting caught out on the UAE and Qatar and the massive pretzel he twisted himself into.

And now, if you'll permit me, my own eulogy for JRode.

A long, long time ago
I can still remember
How his posting used to make me laugh.
And I knew if he had his chance
He'd bitch and moan and remonstrance
At any who would dare a sound reply

His shrill objections without substance
His every point an utter nonsense
Each 'source' an utter vile bilge
of racism and privilege

I still remember how he died
When threatening chargebacks
and a lawyer's ride
And black joy blazed deep, deep inside.
The day JRodefeld died.

I started signing

Bye bye libertarian guy
You were a scoundrel and a moron,
with the guts of a fly.
Your shitposts will live
as a gutchurning sty
Of the worst ideas anyone's had.
The worst ideas that anyone's had.

CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!
I know jrode won't see this post, but I'll make my parting shots anyways.

jrodefeld posted:

I am carefully looking at the Libertarian Party nomination this cycle. I haven't yet decided if I will vote, but if I do it will almost certainly be for the Libertarian Party nominee. None of the candidates running for that nomination are close to ideal in my eyes, but my preference would be, from best to worst: 1. John Mcafee, 2. Austin Petersen, 3. Gary Johnson.

So, like any "well informed" libertarian, you only picked the three that are actually well known because they're either rich, have the means to self promote, or a total shill for Fox News. Seriously, your list is:

1) Crazy bath-salts snorting rich guy who had to escape a stateless utopia and faked a heart disease to be brought back under the protection of the power and weight of the United States, which he previously left because "states are bad, man." Also, might have killed a journalist.

2) Literally a Fox News shill who is only getting mentioned because he used to suck Napolitano's cock is Libertarian butt-buddies with "I hate that public doctors have cured my cancer" John Stossel.

3) Jilted lover former Republican who couldn't even make it to the first round of primary debates, so he decided to "go rogue" and probably only adopted the Libertarian party's platform out of convenience as a means to fulfill his ego in a vainglorious attempt to become President.


quote:

I voted for Gary Johnson in 2012 and I personally like him. He's a good fellow and an honest man. The problem is his delivery is incredibly weak. He doesn't seem like he prepares that well for debates and he doesn't seem that well-read about libertarianism in general.

Maybe the problem is that Gary "FeelMy" Johnson is not actually an honest man and is a Republican in disguise? He doesn't seem well-read about Libertarianism because he isn't a Libertarian, he's a loving dyed in the wool Republican who is just using the platform for his own selfish desires, and realizes the "Party" as it is is too unorganized and dysfunctional to catch on, and even if they did, they couldn't tell him to go away because having a former state governor running for your party gives you an air of legitimacy and respectability that the dozen other crazies running for your party don't.


quote:

John McAfee is the closest to an anarchist and he has a certain gravitas to his delivery which is why I like him. He is a little crazy, but crazy in a good way. He is the more revolutionary and controversial candidate which, in an election where loud-mouth Donald Trump won the GOP nomination, doesn't seem to be a downside.

McAfee's entire recent personal history contradicts his "anarchist" ideas by having to rely on the protection of the United States Government, and faking a heart attack, in order to keep from rotting in some South American prison. On top of that, his whole platform is "I'm rich, but I can't do what I want. I should be able to do what I want, because I'm rich. Vote for me, vote libertarian!"

quote:

Austin Petersen, on the other hand, is much more pragmatic. He is more knowledgeable about libertarianism than is Johnson and has a polished delivery, but he is very young which can make him seem inexperienced. He is less radical than McAfee but he could peel away quite a few conservatives who hate Trump but are scared away by McAfee and are hesitant about Johnson's more liberal positions.

Austin Petersen is a total shill for Fox News, is only a "legitimate" candidate because of them, and is a Libertarian-Republican in the same vein as Stossel, Napolitano, and Glenn Beck. Why? Because he used to work for these poo poo heels and knows how to play the conservative media game. Without his media roots, he'd be just another random "business owner and part time crazy person" running for the Libertarian nomination.




Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I've said it before but it's often easier to convert a libertarian into a socialist than it is it convert a Republican into a Democrat. Some are beyond help, of course, but a fair number are actually trying to think intelligently about their political opinions and transcend pure team-think ideology, they just aren't very good at it because there's so much more right-wing propaganda out there in American culture. If you're intelligent enough to think about politics in economic terms, you'll often start out as a libertarian, but once you start learning about concepts like market failures and behavioral economics, it's not as big a leap as you might think to pick up the hammer and sickle.

I feel sad that I just discovered this thread like today and as soon as I show up the punching bag leaves =(

This is the "Young Libertarian" mindset, I believe. Younger generations are becoming more and more socially liberal, so they reject the obvious racism and bigotry of the right, but have still been inundated with the propaganda against the left. I think I flirted with this stage at one point, having my ideas of "always err on the side of freedom" clashing with many of the Republican stances on social issues. But I could never give into the Libertarian idea of a super minimal state. I eventually decided to ditch the Republican party, and I'm still coming to grips with voting "D" this year (I supported Bernie). I think it's the key of getting people to understand "the Right is wrong about social issues, maybe they're wrong about economic issues, too."

Then I have some rear end in a top hat libertarian friends on Facebook who are that odd breed of "Libertarian-Republican" that buy into the whole idea of "Freedom of Association" a.k.a. "I should be free to throw your (black/muslim/gay) rear end out of my store if I don't like you, and NO IT'S NOT RACISM."

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

My favourite jrode moment was him disappearing for like a month and a half in order to avoid difficult questions about racism and then just suddenly pops back in to drop one of his verbose screeds about the need to adopt the gold standard as if none of the previous topics had occurred

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
My favorite Jrod moment is when he was permabanned.

Grand Theft Autobot
Feb 28, 2008

I'm something of a fucking idiot myself
It is a shock, a complete shock, that as soon as jrod gets hosed by a property owner disposing of his property as he wishes, to jrod's detriment, that jrod starts freaking out about injustice and economic coercion.

Imagine, jrod, if what happened to you was actually completely arbitrary (as opposed to you not following the rules), and instead of being a dumb comedy forum and :10bux: it was a hospital and your entire life savings?

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012
I'm afraid you're all objectively wrong about the best Jrod moment. Back when he first showed up and was replying to each and every post one at a time... only to transparently skip anything with a good argument as if people wouldn't NOTICE... that was Jrodefeld at his best.

Also, when he hosed a watermelon.

TheArmorOfContempt
Nov 29, 2012

Did I ever tell you my favorite color was blue?
I don't know how anyone can be a Libertarian if they have an ounce of fairness in their body. I was already pretty much a Socialist at heart, and was not ignorant of the abuse of the property/capital owners of history, but when you read books like Lies My Teacher Told Me and a People's History of the U.S. it is laid out in such detail you can't help but get angry and view people who support the right of others to treat their employees like slaves as evil little shits.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Uroboros posted:

I don't know how anyone can be a Libertarian if they have an ounce of fairness in their body. I was already pretty much a Socialist at heart, and was not ignorant of the abuse of the property/capital owners of history, but when you read books like Lies My Teacher Told Me and a People's History of the U.S. it is laid out in such detail you can't help but get angry and view people who support the right of others to treat their employees like slaves as evil little shits.

Well, both those books exist to counter the standard narratives in American school textbooks. There are a lot of folks out there who not only haven't read them, but haven't heard of them.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Cerebral Bore posted:

My favorite Jrod moment is when he was permabanned.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Well, both those books exist to counter the standard narratives in American school textbooks. There are a lot of folks out there who not only haven't read them, but haven't heard of them.

And whose fault is that, Book Barn Baron. :colbert:

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Another great JRod moment was when he'd been MIA for a while, and I made a joke about libertarians redefining words like "violence" and "inflation" to mean whatever they want, and he immediately burst back into the thread to tell me how wrong I am. Makes up ludicrous definitions for both words and says "look at a dictionary sometime, jeez."

Also when Fury Road came out and may as well have been Valhalla DRO: the Movie

Also when John Oliver joked about asking "have you ever hosed a watermelon" on job applications

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Tesseraction posted:

And whose fault is that, Book Barn Baron. :colbert:

All I can do is lead whores to culture, I can't make them think

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

All I can do is lead whores to culture, I can't make them think

The free market of ideas is wasted on us.

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theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!

TLM3101 posted:

And now, if you'll permit me, my own eulogy for JRode.

A long, long time ago
I can still remember
How his posting used to make me laugh.
And I knew if he had his chance
He'd bitch and moan and remonstrance
At any who would dare a sound reply

His shrill objections without substance
His every point an utter nonsense
Each 'source' an utter vile bilge
of racism and privilege

I still remember how he died
When threatening chargebacks
and a lawyer's ride
And black joy blazed deep, deep inside.
The day JRodefeld died.

I started signing

Bye bye libertarian guy
You were a scoundrel and a moron,
with the guts of a fly.
Your shitposts will live
as a gutchurning sty
Of the worst ideas anyone's had.
The worst ideas that anyone's had.
Did you write Das Kapital, and
Do you believe that banks will fall
If Human Action tells you so?

Do you believe in precious gold?
Will fiat shred your very soul, and
Can you teach how to mine Bitcoiiiin?

Well I know that you're a racist prick
'Cause you link to white supremacists
You both raise up the South
Maybe it's the mercury in your mouth?

I was a godless statist jackbooted thug
'til you showed up with your bullshit plug
And now I'll only smile and shrug
The day Jrodefeld died...


I started singing

Bye bye libertarian guy
You were a scoundrel and a moron,
with the guts of a fly.
Your shitposts will live
as a gutchurning sty
Of the worst ideas anyone's had.
The worst ideas that anyone's had.

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