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Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Captain Yossarian posted:

:rip: penis man, he flied too close to the sun

What a waste of a good forums name though

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Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!

poo poo, Clarke's prediction ("call up your friendly local computer") became a thing just 10-15 years later -- Prodigy and Compuserve offered (limited, by modern standards, but did include banking) dialup services in in the mid-late '80s, and by 1994 the Internet was a full-blown thing. Sure, it took until the turn of the century for connections to get fast and cheap, but the amazing thing to me is how conservative Clarke's estimate was. Luckily, he lived to see technology more amazing than he'd ever predicted -- died in 2008.

Also lol the way Clarke kinda stumbles over the "work from home, move out into the country" thing -- fucker had been living in Ceylon, one of the farthest-flung corners of the British Empire, since 1956, and continued living in post-independence Sri Lanka the rest of his life. "With computers, everybody will be able to be a scuba-diving hermit living on a tropical beach like me."

wyntyr posted:

I remember wrapping my 14.4kbps external modem in a towel so my parents wouldn't hear me dialing the Shadows Lair BBS back when we lived in Memphis circa 1993

It's me I'm the computer relic
Yeah, us cool kids just learned how to turn off the modem's speaker. :smug:

Speaking of Prodigy back in the day, they had a really good science column I haven't been able to find since. All I remember is that it had a very interesting multipart series on slime molds. I'm sure the archives are gone forever with the demis of Prodigy in 1999, but surely the guy kept writing?

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

GutBomb posted:

It's a gimmick account that's been posting this kind of poo poo everywhere.

Looks like a non-linear story like the one that popped up in Reddit about Flesh Interfaces in Russia.

And in that vein, remember when Steve King wrote "The Plant" and tried to serialize it through the net in like 99?

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Delivery McGee posted:

Also lol the way Clarke kinda stumbles over the "work from home, move out into the country" thing -- fucker had been living in Ceylon, one of the farthest-flung corners of the British Empire, since 1956, and continued living in post-independence Sri Lanka the rest of his life. "With computers, everybody will be able to be a scuba-diving hermit living on a tropical beach like me."

In the acknowledgements section of his novel 2010: Odyssey Two, Clarke included the following:

Arthur C. Clarke posted:

This book was written on an Archives III microcomputer with WordStar software and sent from Colombo to New York on one five-inch diskette. Last-minute corrections were transmitted through the Padukka Earth Station and the Indian Ocean Intelsat V.

Hey, in 1982, all that was actually noteworthy enough to warrant mentioning.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
off topic but 2001 and 2010 were really good. 2061 was ok. 3001 kinda sucked :(

VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



lol 3001 with its dragon riding sca larper chick

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
i dont even remember poo poo other than it was the dude that died in the first one (frank?) and nothing really happened

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Delivery McGee posted:

Also lol the way Clarke kinda stumbles over the "work from home, move out into the country" thing -- fucker had been living in Ceylon, one of the farthest-flung corners of the British Empire, since 1956, and continued living in post-independence Sri Lanka the rest of his life. "With computers, everybody will be able to be a scuba-diving hermit living on a tropical beach like me."
Sounds awesome to me.

The Time Dissolver
Nov 7, 2012

Are you a good person?
in 3001 frank poole is found and somehow revived and later a woman he's about to bang is repulsed by his circumcised dick. owned by the past, 1000 years later

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

The Time Dissolver posted:

in 3001 frank poole is found and somehow revived and later a woman he's about to bang is repulsed by his circumcised dick. owned by the past, 1000 years later

And oh yeah all the inexplicable transcendent stuff in 2001 is just a mundane case of the monolith uploading Dave's mind into its computer, and the humans eventually defeat the monoliths by infecting them with a computer virus, and we get that same chapter about the monoliths (the "And sometimes, dispassionately, they had to weed" one) repeated word-for-word AGAIN for like the third book in a row... yeah, Clarke's later stuff was not his best work, was it? :(

Anony Mouse
Jan 30, 2005

A name means nothing on the battlefield. After a week, no one has a name.
Lipstick Apathy

Gonz posted:

Moms.......ON THE NET!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvTGOw7GcY4

(Warning: This video contains an unusual amount of 1990's; discuss this video with your doctor if unsure before viewing)

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

On your mark, get set...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBTsFZGzoho

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Tyson Tomko posted:

like the other dude said mannnnn do I hate dealing with serial to usb adapters.

The ones made by FTDI seem pretty reliable, not like some of the other ones I've used that randomly stop working and you need to unplug and replug them (at the USB end, so you also need to restart your app because the serial port it was using disappeared).


feedmegin posted:

There's no 'generally the least portable', though. It's not portable at all. The different types of assembly language (well machine code) are literally the difference between the x86 chip in your PC and the ARM chip in your phone.

I was thinking about how you can still port assembly/the resulting executable binaries between different chips in the x86 line sometimes but other times it might not be if you used undocumented instructions that Intel decided to remove (e.g. LOADALL) or if you are on the bleeding edge and optimize your code by using vector arithmetic instructions that Intel have created but AMD don't yet support.

Cojawfee posted:

Welp, never doing medical IT.

I don't work in any area related to medical stuff but many programmers have heard about this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25 posted:

The Therac-25 was a radiation therapy machine produced by Atomic Energy of Canada Limited (AECL) in 1982 after the Therac-6 and Therac-20 units (the earlier units had been produced in partnership with CGR of France).

It was involved in at least six accidents between 1985 and 1987, in which patients were given massive overdoses of radiation.[1]:425 Because of concurrent programming errors, it sometimes gave its patients radiation doses that were hundreds of times greater than normal, resulting in death or serious injury.[2] These accidents highlighted the dangers of software control of safety-critical systems, and they have become a standard case study in health informatics and software engineering. Additionally the overconfidence of the engineers[1]:428 and lack of proper due diligence to resolve reported software bugs, is highlighted as an extreme case where the engineer's overconfidence in their initial work and failure to believe the end user claims caused drastic repercussions.

Inzombiac posted:

I have a shopping bag full of HDDs from a company that was upgrading. They are all 500GB+ and in good condition but it makes me feel like a 90s h4X0r using Octo-Pad to multihax all the ATMs across state lines.


Seriously, what the hell do I do with them?!

My local "donate old PCs to us, we'll refurbish them and install Linux on them and then sell them to poor people for not much money" place would take them, maybe you can find one near you.


This is also the first thing I thought of, very catchy :v:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Police Automaton posted:

I also have a small industrial SBC (Single Board Computer) here, ISA card form-factor with ISA interface. 486 Chipset, IDE and Floppy connector, just everything you'd expect from a system that "age", it also came out of a medical machine of some sort. The board was manufactured somewhere 2000-2003. I play old games on it. I replaced the intel CPU with a Cyrix 5x86, because this Board can actually manage a 50 Mhz FSB (unlike Boards manufactured when the 486 actually was state of the art) the 100 Mhz Cryix really flies with it and it's well inside spec of the chipset. I think I might have posted pictures of that board in this thread, not sure though.

Geez, 'SBC' takes me back to not to long ago when I was trying to find a low power replacement computer to run a dedicated ROM of an arcade game in it's original cabinet. Obviously these were before Raspberry Pi's. The costs of SBCs were huge as most were as you say 'industrial'.

A few months ago I revisited the project and opened the cab to find a full ITX motherboard and associated hardware. I have had Raspberry Pi's since they first came out and laughed at how I rigged this thing back when I drunkenly came up with the project. As a bonus - the full ITX version still booted even after surviving a cyclone left in an open air shed.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008


Well, the dude did invent the idea of a communications satellite in 1945 - not in a sci-fi story or anything, but an article in a technical magazine:

http://lakdiva.org/clarke/1945ww/1945ww_oct_305-308.html

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Powered Descent posted:

And oh yeah all the inexplicable transcendent stuff in 2001 is just a mundane case of the monolith uploading Dave's mind into its computer, and the humans eventually defeat the monoliths by infecting them with a computer virus, and we get that same chapter about the monoliths (the "And sometimes, dispassionately, they had to weed" one) repeated word-for-word AGAIN for like the third book in a row... yeah, Clarke's later stuff was not his best work, was it? :(

Science Fiction authors seem to get kind of crazy and bad in their later years.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

The Time Dissolver posted:

in 3001 frank poole is found and somehow revived and later a woman he's about to bang is repulsed by his circumcised dick. owned by the past, 1000 years later
better yet, it's this chick:

VectorSigma posted:

lol 3001 with its dragon riding sca larper chick
she's in the future-version of a society for creative anachronism and he goes home with her and the next morning somebody else asks Frank how his night went and he goes "let's just say I found one anachronism she didn't appreciate"

That justified the entire rest of 3001 to me, even though most of it was crap. I did enjoy the scene where they left him in a hotel room and he couldn't even figure out how to make the door reappear in the wall, though. That was a good description of future shock.

barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot

SLOSifl posted:

6. Look at your kid on a CRT in a phone booth

For the younger goons, a phone booth was a box or partitioned area with a "pay phone". You would put some coins in it and dial someone's phone number that you had written down or memorized. You can video chat from anywhere now.

....are there goons young enough to actually not know what a phone booth is? I'm just heading into the early 20s and feel like I just barely caught the last gasp of the phone booth before obsolescence. to think there's fresh blood around here younger than me is craaaazy. where are you hiding, high school goons? come out and plaaaaaaay

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Turdsdown Tom posted:

where are you hiding, high school goons? come out and plaaaaaaay

:aatrek:

barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot
something awful GONE FOGLE

Tyson Tomko
May 8, 2005

The Problem Solver.
When I was working at Hardee's in high school my dad worked insurance. He had a bag cell phone because of work and I used to remember feeling all James Bondish using it (if I drove his car to work or something) to call the payphone at work just to make it ring. The simple novelty of being able to make a phone call from "the wild" was pretty cool back in the day.

Hell I remember taking our cordless phone out into our backyard growing up and blowing my drat mind at the distance I could get. "Look at me! I'm on my swingset and able to call a friend! I'm so cool!"

Sten Freak
Sep 10, 2008

Despite all of these shortcomings, the Sten still has a long track record of shooting people right in the face.
College Slice
And back then, even as a dumb teen you'd have at least half dozen phone numbers memorized, maybe more. Today I know my number and my parents landline from when I was a kid. I don't even know my wife's but will recognize it.

kilogram
Mar 29, 2012

Cyborg Senator
I knew a guy a few years ago who didn't even know his own number and had to text me so I could show it to him. What has the world come to

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

For those curious, here's the full thing, it's from 1997:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A81IwlDeV6c

and the well-done Youtube Poop version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7WtkdLQ6PM

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Speaking of Prodigy, I think I saw some random jumble of letters that reminded me of NAPLPS. That term got embedded in my brain despite me never knowing what it was until I read the Wikipedia article 2 minutes ago, because there was a Simtel 20 section dedicated to it:
pre:
Directory MSDOS/NAPLPS/
 Filename   Type Length   Date   Description
==============================================
MGE201A.ZIP   B  292974  930408  NAPLPS drawing program with many video drivers
NALPANML.ZIP  B   36777  930408  Sample NAPLPS drawings of animals
NAPFNTA.ZIP   B   41475  930612  Several typefaces as NAPLPS clipart
NAPICO11.ZIP  B   37748  930415  Convert Windows 3 icons to NAPLPS bitmaps
NAPLPS.ZIP    B   50718  930412  Complete technical specs for NAPLPS protocol
NAPWMF08.ZIP  B  217669  930612  Convert CorelDraw clipart and fonts to NAPLPS
PP3217A.ZIP   B  244372  930408  Terminal program to call NAPLPS BBSes
SHOWPLP.ZIP   B   19530  930505  Add NAPLPS support to any BBS program
TURSHOW6.ZIP  B   75503  930415  File viewer for NAPLPS images (EGA/VGA)
Wikipedia says "NAPLPS (North American Presentation Level Protocol Syntax) is a graphics language for use originally with videotex and teletext services." "NAPLPS lived on into the early 1990s as the graphical basis for the Prodigy online service. Some bulletin boards were able to serve NAPLPS content to callers on their 1200 and 2400 bit/s modems. But the technology's chief advantage in an era of slow telecommunication - its ability to encode complex graphics in terse object commands - became moot as data communication speeds increased and raster graphics compression became popular."

So was Prodigy all cool and graphical when the rest of us were suffering with just ANSI art on our BBSes?

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Buttcoin purse posted:

So was Prodigy all cool and graphical when the rest of us were suffering with just ANSI art on our BBSes?

Sort of

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

Turdsdown Tom posted:

I'm just heading into the early 20s and feel like I just barely caught the last gasp of the phone booth before obsolescence.
I remember the ones in Australia having a neat trick where you'd put in some code then return the receiver and it'd call back. I think it was some service code. Some clowns found the number for the one at school and dailed it into their mobile to have it ring during assemblies.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


WebDog posted:

I remember the ones in Australia having a neat trick where you'd put in some code then return the receiver and it'd call back. I think it was some service code. Some clowns found the number for the one at school and dailed it into their mobile to have it ring during assemblies.

I have a few service manuals for a number of them somewhere on an old HDD. There was one test where you could dial a code, enter a phone number and essentially ping it and guesstimate the physical line distance from the payphone.

A lot of payphone booths here are now being slowly turned into WiFi hotspots.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014


That looks pretty nice for 1992!

Black Pants
Jan 16, 2008

Such comfortable, magical pants!
Lipstick Apathy
This is a dumb thing but I really miss the MIDI playback of my 'soundblaster clone' Avance Logic ALS100 soundcard back in the 90s. Sonic and Knuckles Collection had music that actually sounded right, like from the console. Hell all of my games' music sounded like 16 bit console music and I loved it. Now anything with MIDI sounds like the awful fake instrumental poo poo.

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
"You are standing in a thread. Someone has made an insightful post."
LOOK AT insightful post
"It's a pretty good post."
HATE post
"I don't understand"
SHIT ON post
"You shit on the post. Why."
Parts of the system shock soundtrack will be forever seared into my brain. Same for Ultima 7. FM-Synth stuff could be great but was rarely done well. (at least on the PC that is, don't know about other systems)

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

I'm sure the Heaven's Gate UFO cult's website has been posted in this thread before, but I was wondering who was paying the hosting bills. This article talks about the cult members who were left behind to maintain the site.

quote:

The information on the site is still the same information that gave us in 3.5 disk format on March 25, 1997. We loaded in their departure updates then and it has remained with the same information ever since. When we had to move it a few years ago due to another ISP failure, we used the same 3.5 diskettes to load the information in.

I hope they have backups :ohdear:

quote:

... tapes, still available for a reasonable $3 through the website (which contain each member's "goodbye" statement), ...

I wonder what the profit margin is there? Are they literally using VCR tapes? They probably cost a lot these days. Is selling people's video suicide notes profitable?

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
they are a cult that killed themselves because of a comet, I don't know if you should expect anything they do to make any sort of sense.


but thank you for doing the research because I always wondered who was keeping that site alive.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
But why? Wasn't the comet the only chance for them to get to heaven? Why stay behind?

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
That's rough man, your death cult moves on to their magic comet spaceship and you get chosen to stay behind on earth to keep the website going. Left Behind: Sys Admin Edition.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde

Cojawfee posted:

But why? Wasn't the comet the only chance for them to get to heaven? Why stay behind?

it will be back in 4380. Hopefully those 3.5 disks hold out just a little longer.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Cojawfee posted:

But why? Wasn't the comet the only chance for them to get to heaven? Why stay behind?

Nah the comet was the sign for Do and others to depart because there was nothing else they could do here, you can learn more from this youtube channel. The film 'Interstellar' has some nice illustrations of these ideas of nonlinearity and predestination. Hale-Bopp could have been the star described in the Christmas story.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Negrostrike posted:

Has been posted here before I guess but yeah, I spent so much time with the Win95 Game Sampler. I even played Doom 1 for the first time through this. There's an ISO on archive.org

downloading this now to try on my Authentic Windows 98 SE Gaming Rig

gonna get some coconut monkey going too: https://archive.org/details/pcgamer-cdroms

hard to find a list of all the coconut monkey discs, though, so i'm just gonna start at april 1997

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
"You are standing in a thread. Someone has made an insightful post."
LOOK AT insightful post
"It's a pretty good post."
HATE post
"I don't understand"
SHIT ON post
"You shit on the post. Why."
Everything aside I think the cult leader invented himself into a corner and also realized he wouldn't be around forever and that story has to come to an end. Dude was nuts.

The Channel with all the videos is ran by one of the two (might be more, I don't know) remaining people of that cult AFAIK, if you google around a bit you can find interviews with them. They basically still believe old dude was Jesus. There are also interviews with people who left the cult because they started thinking it's bullshit, one of them said he thinks that Do-dude was basically gay and in denial, lol.

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lazydog
Apr 15, 2003
How to send an "E Mail" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szdbKz5CyhA

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