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Nessus posted:Well since you'd asked. Someone had said "the answer is that AI are not people." that's an obvious example of the ol' "overexaggerate-your-opponents-point-to-demonstrate-it's-stupid" dealie. edit: it's not a good argument, but I distinctly remember being drunk when I made it anyway.
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divabot posted:Kickstarter page has delivery dates. (June for electronic copies, July for physical ones, when it's done for bonus essays ebook, 2017 for Amazon edition in paper and ebook.) Ah, good. I think I'll wait until July before reading it. I love readin' a physical book especially a snarky one.
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divabot posted:Kickstarter page has links to about 15k words of excerpts which may contain the answer. what kind of a nerd do you think I am edit: I wonder what the legal implication are of using a painting that is distinctly not his in his kickstarter campaign: 
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May 27, 2016 11:21
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May 27, 2016 11:57
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Cardboard Box A posted:http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/ben-shapiros-messy-breakup-with-breitbart.html truely the Martin Luther King Jr of our age
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May 27, 2016 12:02
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Cumslut1895 posted:that's an obvious example of the ol' "overexaggerate-your-opponents-point-to-demonstrate-it's-stupid" dealie. So what you're saying is a while ago you made some stupid comment that's hypocritical that you regret, then? Anyway, Gawker is a mixed bag but I still stand by my One Of The Good Ones status for them. Their owner/boss/whatever is a shithead who makes a lot of bad decisions and should be replaced, but many of their reporters are pretty good people who do good stories that are not "hey guys a celebrity had a sex let's all watch!"
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May 27, 2016 13:37
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:So what you're saying is a while ago you made some stupid comment that's hypocritical that you regret, then? Nope. Saying bullshit you don't mean has no influence on anything. All the jews should go in the ovens. That is not the same as publishing an article that details your genuine beliefs
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May 27, 2016 13:46
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Cumslut1895 posted:edit: I wonder what the legal implication are of using a painting that is distinctly not his in his kickstarter campaign: John Martin's Pandemonium was painted in 1841 and is no longer protected by copyright so what do you think the legal implications ought to be, pal? Is your opinion on that as stupid as your opinions on why it's perfectly okay for you to spout bigoted poo poo all over as long as you don't believe it
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May 27, 2016 13:50
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Cumslut1895 posted:what kind of a nerd do you think I am This might be the most pathetic threat i've seen in this thread
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InediblePenguin posted:John Martin's Pandemonium was painted in 1841 and is no longer protected by copyright so what do you think the legal implications ought to be, pal? Is your opinion on that as stupid as your opinions on why it's perfectly okay for you to spout bigoted poo poo all over as long as you don't believe it Ash Crimson posted:This might be the most pathetic threat i've seen in this thread Execution by Scaphism, obviously
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May 27, 2016 14:07
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Cardboard Box A posted:http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/ben-shapiros-messy-breakup-with-breitbart.html He's uploaded a video claiming a BLM protester took a swing at him. The Brave Tough Male Leader of the Alt-Right in fact has playfully bopped in the face by a small woman.
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May 27, 2016 14:09
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Cumslut1895 posted:Nope. Saying bullshit you don't mean has no influence on anything. All the jews should go in the ovens. That is not the same as publishing an article that details your genuine beliefs I meant that more as a dumb snarky joke than anything but good job showing your "it's just ~ironic~ racism!" hand  I guess my core point is Gawker as a whole is hugely varied; they encourage their reporters to be opinionated in whatever weird way they want and they own a lot of very different outfits. A bunch of these people are shitheads who get off on stirring up poo poo and destroying lives. Quite a few of the other people are good reporters who break important stories, and the rest are just pretty good reporters who make fun of lovely people. Do I wish I could separate the first group from the rest? Absolutely. I'm not saying the first group isn't unrepentantly lovely or doesn't deserve to be sued in court for all their money, I'm just saying the first group isn't the whole story and much, if not all, of their staff is good. GE made the majority of our nuclear weapons, but they also make most of our advanced medical imaging equipment and a bunch of other important life-saving stuff. I can both be appalled at GE's defense contractor side and simultaneously think GE is good for making medical equipment because GE is not a single person.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I meant that more as a dumb snarky joke than anything but good job showing your "it's just ~ironic~ racism!" hand I believe you have addressed the 'fallacy of composition' - where a part is not necessarily representative of the whole, or inversely where a part is not necessarily able to be considered in isolation. While Gawker has shitbags in the company, that doesn't mean it's a company of shitbags. Conversely, Breitbart is a company of shitbags, and it... hmm wait no it doesn't have individual non-shitbags oh well.
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May 27, 2016 14:46
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Jezebel isn't Gawker. Sure, they're owned by Gawker, but they're very different outfits. I'm sure the Jezebel staff was forbidden from commenting on the Hulk Hogan thing, but iirc, there have been some hints that they weren't very happy about it.
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May 27, 2016 15:13
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Please stop engaging with the shitposter tia. Ignoring the fallacy of composition, the company that pays employees that do Bad poo poo is still directly and wholly responsible for the actions of its employees. Companies are not some monolithic entity, they're organizations of people. When some low-level peon does A Bad Thing, it's rarely at their own instigation. Definitely less so in journalism, but companies still wink-wink-nudge-nudge journalists into doing quasi-illegal poo poo to get a good story before their competition (eg the phone hacking scandal from a few years ago).
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May 27, 2016 15:15
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A White Guy posted:Please stop engaging with the shitposter tia. Yeah and I said that, Gawker had some people in high-level positions doing incredibly bad poo poo and the guy that runs the whole thing is an unrepentant rear end in a top hat, I think he should be fired and Gawker (and him personally) should lose a bunch of money in damages. I don't think they should be driven out of business however, since even though the poo poo-stirrers were pretty high up, the poo poo-stirring department was overall pretty small (if loud) compared to all the other things they did.
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I think it's fair for Gawker to go out of business over this. Posting porn of people without their consent is never OK, even if it's someone you hate. But it's ridiculous for the DE/alt-right shitlords to call people hypocrites for supporting Jezebel's condemnation of "the fappening" when Jezebel is owned by Gawker. I can agree with one thing a company does while condemning another. I can enjoy a website without any implication of loyalty to every single decision made by its management. The way these guys have treated the Gawker thing makes about as much sense as someone saying PYF goons are hypocrites because some dude in D&D supports gun control while TFR is all about guns.
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May 27, 2016 15:34
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Condemning people directly related and people in charge: good Condemning people not in charge and not directly related: not good
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May 27, 2016 18:19
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Nessus posted:Well since you'd asked. Someone had said "the answer is that AI are not people." Hooooooooooooooooly poo poo
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One thing that I love is opening a thread and seeing that 50% of the posts are the same loving guy. We need a new rule where you get auto-probated anytime your posts make up more than a quarter of a given page? Unless your doing an ask-tell, nobody need more than 10 posts per page. Anyway, semi-on-topic but is anybody in this thread going for the $10 reward for the NaB KS? If so, what other books are you going to request? I know I want Guided by the Beauty of their Weapons, but I'm not sure what else to request. What are you guys thinking about?
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I'm doing the  tier. I'm definitely getting Guided by the Beauty of their Weapons, and maybe the Wonder Woman one? Or maybe the one about the magical war between Grant Morrison and Alan Moore.
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And just in case anybody's unfamiliar with the "Beauty of Their Weapons" reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_We_Take_Manhattan [edit] Also, looking back at that rant, man I was in a weird place at about 2:30AM last night. Heresiarch has a new favorite as of 23:35 on May 27, 2016 |
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Topped $12k, we're getting the TERFs essay! I am finally listening to the third podcast (Sam Keeper) and it's frickin' hilarious. Phil Sandifer has a horrible, horrible origin story ... he ... he ... voted for Bush in 2000. He is VERY SORRY and will probably spend the rest of his life trying to make up for it. Also, here's the teaser for the $14k goal, assuming Phil can get another $2k in three days.
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Heresiarch posted:And just in case anybody's unfamiliar with the "Beauty of Their Weapons" reference: I assumed it was a Blake reference.
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Pope Guilty posted:I assumed it was a Blake reference. That's what I assume with anything from Sandifer.
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Horrifying video of Alpha Manosphere Thinker Matt Forney being brutally assaulted by an evil SJW https://twitter.com/jiveassbaloney/status/736290596080472064
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May 29, 2016 14:48
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Oh I see, I thought she threw something in his face but he was trying to photo her up close and she snatches his phone from him to stop it.
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May 29, 2016 15:00
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Tesseraction posted:Oh I see, I thought she threw something in his face but he was trying to photo her up close and she snatches his phone from him to stop it. If you get in someone's face, as long as you're a reactionary, anything they do to defend themselves is assault. Notice that this woman getting tired of being harassed is the "attacker", and so are Trump protesters being beaten by Trump supporters.
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May 29, 2016 15:29
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Random female college student is Matt Forney's greatest opponent since the 60 something lady who said she felt bad for him after talking to someone who knew him in high school as a weird nerd who didn't fit in. He had to heroically doxx her to get out of that one.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Random female college student is Matt Forney's greatest opponent since the 60 something lady who said she felt bad for him after talking to someone who knew him in high school as a weird nerd who didn't fit in. Makes sense...Neoreactionaries are basically just the kids that got picked on a lot, and instead of letting that give them empathy, are dedicated to trying to force that mental pain off on anyone they can find a reason to perceive as inferior to themselves.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Random female college student is Matt Forney's greatest opponent since the 60 something lady who said she felt bad for him after talking to someone who knew him in high school as a weird nerd who didn't fit in. Hell that's what he's done here, too - Bakoon's tweet is taking the piss out of him for giving out her personal info.
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Tesseraction posted:Hell that's what he's done here, too - Bakoon's tweet is taking the piss out of him for giving out her personal info. Pretty much. You can bet the Usual Suspects who shriek about how evil doxxing will not be raising a peep about any of this.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Pretty much. I've just check my star alignment chart and it seems that even though several are, they're not the right stars (some of them aren't pure white) so it won't be an instance worth raising.
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Heresiarch posted:When the hell did Pando stop being just a bunch of press releases? Literally from the start Pando has been plugging away at Peter Thiel and Pierre Omidyar, so I imagine Carr & Co are like pigs in poo poo right now.
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Hermetic posted:Makes sense...Neoreactionaries are basically just the kids that got picked on a lot, and instead of letting that give them empathy, are dedicated to trying to force that mental pain off on anyone they can find a reason to perceive as inferior to themselves. Which brings us full circle to one of my favourite posts in this thread, waaaay back on the first page: Harime Nui posted:Nerd society is due for a goddamn ball-destroying wedgie is what, and I'm the pink anime princess who's gonna deliver
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That pussy that got his camera grabbed just broadcasts contemptible weakness. I've never wanted to bully someone so badly in my life. This must be what middle-school kids feel when they accept the calling to be bullies. I don't know who you are or where you live, but I'm coming to knock the books out of your fat, bald hands and make you squeal like a pig, boy. How is he not consumed in such self-loathing 24/7 that he doesn't just commit suicide? I would be if I were dumb and also let that happen to my body.
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Jack Gladney posted:That pussy that got his camera grabbed just broadcasts contemptible weakness. I've never wanted to bully someone so badly in my life. This must be what middle-school kids feel when they accept the calling to be bullies. I don't know who you are or where you live, but I'm coming to knock the books out of your fat, bald hands and make you squeal like a pig, boy. The constant avatar/post combos you produce are impressive. 
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I was a really awful bully in school It's caused me a great deal of distress and I've had to get therapy for it I can't watch poo poo with Matt Forney in it because the urge to bully him becomes so severe that it is traumatic I am literally, unironically, triggered by Matt Forney
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A quote from this blogpostquote:I'm feeling remorseful about my treatment of Matt Forney after an exchange with a gal on "Jezebel" who knew him in high school. The aftermath
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