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Subjunctive posted:Valkyrie, maybe War Thunder, ETS can chug in cities on mid-range cards. I have war thunder set to ~medium on my 980Ti, and outside VR it delivers like 300fps on 2560x1600. Setting to higher graphics makes little to zero difference in the low resolution world of VR, so I just play at that preset. Works great, having tons of fun. Ludicrous Gibs! posted:There are some amazing experiences available right now, but content is still pretty thin. I'd suspect your mileage depends on how enthusiastic you are for VR in general. If you're on the fence, I'd wait for the 2nd or 3rd Gen headsets. IMO it depends on how enthusiastic you are for simulations. Elite, driving sims, plane sims are all games I spend quite a bit of time in, so not getting VR was a non-starter for me. Otherwise yeah, probably wait for 2nd gen, VR content outside cockpit sims is scarce (though some of it is so loving good..) EdEddnEddy posted:Elite Dangerous and Project Cars (and I guess Asseto Corsa now too) are the VR performance one that will eat alive a single GPU VR setup. (And SLI doesn't work in VR yet). Dunno about the other two, but my vive runs elite fine since beta/engineers dropped. I do play on VR low preset tho, didn't bother yet to try high.
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EdEddnEddy posted:Elite Dangerous and Project Cars (and I guess Asseto Corsa now too) are the VR performance one that will eat alive a single GPU VR setup. (And SLI doesn't work in VR yet). No kidding. For project CARS on my overclocked 290x I had to turn everything down to medium settings to ensure a solid framerate. That's not a huge drop in visual quality considering the resolution of current VR headsets, but its enough to get me thinking of buying a 1080.
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Truga posted:I have war thunder set to ~medium on my 980Ti, and outside VR it delivers like 300fps on 2560x1600. Setting to higher graphics makes little to zero difference in the low resolution world of VR, so I just play at that preset. Works great, having tons of fun. I say they had some patch notes about code optimization for planets and such, will have to give it a try. I am the opposite, I push everything to MAX then tune down from there. Elite maxed out (Outside of scaling which is at 1.0X of course) gets a bit slower on planets (45-55FPS) pre Engineers. So I will have to see if they somehow improved on that. The game looks downright fantastic in VR on the Rift though so when a card comes out that can run it at 1.5X at least at 90FPS everywhere, that card I will want. (Don't think even a 1080 can do that just yet, but I'd love to test. A 1080Ti should do it I'd guess). Project CARS is great maxed solo, but the minute you put a full grid on track the FPS plummets. I need to tweak some settings to see what affect s the FPS the most as Texture stuff doesn't seem to bother it, (nor max out the 6G the Ti has anyway). Maybe more reflections and shadow reduction  Without Shadows though, the game looses a lot of its really high quality visuals as everything looks flat and plastic then. Shadows in Elite, make that games visuals. Soo Nice.
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It's looking like the pre-orders from Fry's are going to go out in two waves. A set now and then another set on June 14th. Since I haven't gotten any sort of shipping confirmation, I'm assuming I'm in the latter group. And, of course, on Weds I get shipping notification for my Rift, a half a month sooner than they said it would arrive. So, I'm going to have a nice shiny new VR headset on Tuesday with nothing to run it. It's almost tempting to kill my order, run down to best buy and pick up an EVGA 970 for $300, and then do the step up program when the custom designs come out. I just wonder how constrained the supply would be in the next 90 days. I would hate to do that and then be stuck with the 970. What makes that approach extra tempting is that I have Elite Plus status right now with Best Buy, so I have a 45 day return window. Beyond that, Amex will let me return up to 90 days out. I seem to be protected from multiple directions. So, I"m having trouble seeing a downside here.
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you can trade up to the FTW edition (it's the only EVGA non-ref PCB at the moment) or wait for their premium PCBs after you play around for a month with your FE basically you chose the best possible vendor for the founder's edition Anime Schoolgirl fucked around with this message at 23:19 on May 27, 2016 |
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:you can trade up to the FTW edition (it's the only EVGA non-ref PCB at the moment) or wait for their premium PCBs after you play around for a month with your FE Oh, I know. I'm not worried about the founders edition and being able to trade up if I got that. That's specifically why I chose the EVGA one. I'm just being a big impatient baby about the fact that I'm not going to be able to use my rift for over two weeks after I bought it. (if the shipping stories are true.) Either that or I just do some of the less graphically intense things and turn down settings, using my XP15 with the 960m. From what I understand, there's no hard cutoff "this will not work", it's just framerate. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 23:29 on May 27, 2016 |
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You also got it at frys, which has 30 days to return it without a restocking fee either way. IF you can drive to one, just go in, grab whatever the highest open box card is there, and use it until the 1080 arrives and worry about things then.
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Doom running at 60+ FPS in 4K with everything turned up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22ePLtROm6I 69*C with fans at 60% - he mentions you can barely hear it. Super excited for this!
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EdEddnEddy posted:You also got it at frys, which has 30 days to return it without a restocking fee either way. Closest Fry's is about 400 miles away. They really need to expand into the east coast. I can pretty much take the same approach at Best Buy though which is what I was saying since I have a 45 day return policy there. I was thinking about wandering down there later anyways on the EXTREME off chance they have the 1080 in store and no one thought to look for one. If there's an open box graphics card that meets the requirements, I might grab it because I would feel less lovely about returning it later.
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FaustianQ posted:Speaking of a potentially super awesome feature, XFX QD Fans for GPUs (and thus a Polaris/400 series feature) Fuuuuuuuuuck man Does this mean I can stick some Noctuas on there 
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Fuuuuuuuuuck man Does this mean I can stick some Noctuas on there Well it does look like the design is proprietary, but apparently XFX is working on a cheap license. So, maybe? I'd no poo poo buy XFX products to exclusively stick Phanteks or Noctua fans on them. Wait, hang on...are those standardized fan screw mounts? Holy poo poo.
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FaustianQ posted:Wait, hang on...are those standardized fan screw mounts? Holy poo poo. From the looks of it you'd have to custom-cut screws to mount standard fans. It's also clearly proprietary, as the power connector is built into the bracket and clearly visible on the fan.
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Anyone thinking of the step-up program should also factor in the whole two lots of shipping you're gonna pay on sending your 970 or whatever to EVGA then paying for them to ship the 1080 to you. Its only $10-15~ each way but it was enough to dissuade me.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:It's also clearly proprietary, as the power connector is built into the bracket and clearly visible on the fan. Oh bullshit. Man Why cant I have a GPU where I can use my ow superior fans.
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You can. It's called setup a custom loop.
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So i'm waiting on a non-gimped, reasonably priced 1070 for gaming at 1440p. Would it be reckless to get a 970 on the EVGA step up program right now to play games on my GPU-less system and go up to a 1070 once (If?!) it's confirmed to be on the program?
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I realize that since I have a 970 right now, the proper card for me upgrade to will be the 1070, especially since I've only got a 1080p monitor, but goddamn I kind of want a 1080 FTW or Classified just so I can have all the power.
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I have no faith in that securement method eventually loosening and the fan rattling around. In which case, we're back at square one.
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Don Lapre posted:You can. It's called setup a custom loop. What If i want air cooling, huh 
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You are. You're air-cooling the water. Look, real talk, water cooling is just another way of saying "customizable heat pipes", and "no risk of delaminating your circuit boards by having a five pound weight hanging off the CPU socket area".
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Have air cooling, ride the bus, boil carpet for food. I won't judge
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Cheap bracket + cheap AIO is king imo. Fans don't even speed up and its like $80 total. That is if you want to anyway . I have a feeling these coolers are gonna work fine
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EdEddnEddy posted:Valkyrie is not that GPU heavy. War Thunder can be though, and ETS/ATS has some lovely optimization problem where in a City the FPS AND CPU load drops from some bottleneck that I nor it seems anyone can really figure the hell out. Drive outside the city, and both CPU and GPU usage go back up along with FPS then. WTF?!? CPU/GPU serialization point somewhere in the city processing. One idles on the other (maybe several times a frame) both increasing idle time and decreasing actual utilization.
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Here's JayzTwoCents talking about the 1080 throttling again, and how to work around it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXUo1S55ZUM Interestingly, he said all reference coolers have done this, and it's not new. Which is probably why I've avoided them for so long.
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sorry for the dumb question, but i'm dumb and i'm trying to figure out which to step up to: should i be buying the founders edition or the evga ACX 3.0 edition (08G-P4- 6180-KR vs 6181-KR)? Of what I can find the ACX 3.0 is apparently more powerful, but is 80 dollars less than the founders edition, so i don't understand why their version is cheaper. I doubt EVGA would give me money BACK for the step up, and since i paid 700 for my special VR 980ti i can buy whichever.
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How long do you have to wait
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Tweak posted:sorry for the dumb question, but i'm dumb and i'm trying to figure out which to step up to: should i be buying the founders edition or the evga ACX 3.0 edition (08G-P4- 6180-KR vs 6181-KR)? Of what I can find the ACX 3.0 is apparently more powerful, but is 80 dollars less than the founders edition, so i don't understand why their version is cheaper. I doubt EVGA would give me money BACK for the step up, and since i paid 700 for my special VR 980ti i can buy whichever. Don't get the Founders Edition. It's more expensive for no gain, and the single power connector limits its overclocking potential. Also eVGA doesn't care if you put your own aftermarket cooler on, so long as it doesn't end up bricking it. Also, the "SC" only has a single 8-pin connector as well, going by JayzTwoCents' video review of it. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 03:30 on May 28, 2016 |
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Tweak posted:sorry for the dumb question, but i'm dumb and i'm trying to figure out which to step up to: should i be buying the founders edition or the evga ACX 3.0 edition (08G-P4- 6180-KR vs 6181-KR)? Of what I can find the ACX 3.0 is apparently more powerful, but is 80 dollars less than the founders edition, so i don't understand why their version is cheaper. I doubt EVGA would give me money BACK for the step up, and since i paid 700 for my special VR 980ti i can buy whichever. the founders is the new and cool marketing word for "reference" with a 100$ price premium for some strange reason like not competing with board partner cards. i would get the acx for the savings and probably the better performance
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ok thanks, they just take the difference if i paid more but i'm fine with that considering (either way i just pay for shipping)Don Lapre posted:How long do you have to wait about 30 days i think before my step up expires Tweak fucked around with this message at 03:33 on May 28, 2016 |
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Tweak posted:sorry for the dumb question, but i'm dumb and i'm trying to figure out which to step up to: should i be buying the founders edition or the evga ACX 3.0 edition (08G-P4- 6180-KR vs 6181-KR)? Of what I can find the ACX 3.0 is apparently more powerful, but is 80 dollars less than the founders edition, so i don't understand why their version is cheaper. I doubt EVGA would give me money BACK for the step up, and since i paid 700 for my special VR 980ti i can buy whichever. The FE is more expensive because Nvidia is doing weird things. The ACX 3.0 uses the same reference board as the FE but the cooler is far better so between the two you want the ACX 3.0. You could also wait for the versions with custom PCBs which should have better power delivery and higher OCing headroom but if you just want a 1080 that does not throttle and is fairly quiet the ACX 3.0 should be fine. Here is a video where the ACX 3.0 SC is tested and it looks to work fine, the SC is just a version with a bit of a factory overclock, the cooler and PCB are the same as the ACX 3.0 non-SC.
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Can we just change the thread title to: "Don't Buy Founders Edition"?
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I have a preoder of the EVGA FTW but dang if that Asus Strix doesn't look good.
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Lockback posted:Can we just change the thread title to: "Don't Buy Founders Edition"? it's 100% worth it to buy a founders edition and sell it to frothing nerds
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Smithereens posted:it's 100% worth it to buy a founders edition and sell it to frothing nerds Yes, but at this point if you haven't already bought one you probably won't get it until after the feeding frenzy is over.
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Is there any difference on all of these besides coming pre over clocked? And if I have a general idea on how to overlock a graphics card or can use google should I just go for the cheapest one of these three? EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 ACX 3.0 EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 SC GAMING ACX 3.0 EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0
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Holyshoot posted:Is there any difference on all of these besides coming pre over clocked? And if I have a general idea on how to overlock a graphics card or can use google should I just go for the cheapest one of these three? The FTW version is a custom PCB with better power delivery, and should in theory turn in the best overclocks. Whether it'll be enough to be worth the extra price is anyone's guess. The only difference between the other two is a mild factory overclock, which you can basically disregard if you're going to overclock it yourself.
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