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Beef Jerky Robot posted:Will a bola match from Cody be better than Bryan Meyers' bad one i was there live and despite being the best in the world aj styles was the lesser half of that match
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That's fair it's just insane that BITW AJ had a bad match at bola
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Super No Vacancy posted:"the streamers thing" that's the most i've ever liked cody rhodes I read it as "The Steiners thing," and thought Cody was going to Scott and Rick's Shoney's. Now I'm disappointed.
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booking AJ in an indies singles tournament while he was IWGP champ was kind of a silly thing to do
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Don't see jax Dane on that list SMH
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https://twitter.com/WadeBarrett/status/736695586880114692 Why do WWE ever let these people go 
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pressedbunny posted:https://twitter.com/WadeBarrett/status/736695586880114692 WWE never did anything with them in the first place, so I'm glad they're free and can do crazy poo poo like make hit lists with the artistic filter on.
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wade barrett is me if i were tough, funny and less hosed up looking
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Dumb indie geeks https://twitter.com/RonFunches/status/736578046883303430 https://twitter.com/WWEBigE/status/736707346626289666
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:Will a bola match from Cody be better than Bryan Meyers' bad one That match was fine until the finish, and the trios match he had on the third day was fun oatgan posted:i was there live and despite being the best in the world aj styles was the lesser half of that match He managed to have a bad match with Roddy Strong that weekend, in the summer of 2014. Even with the screwjob finish, how
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That loving Ricochet Ospreay match
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Yeah, I don't see this working out for PBR https://twitter.com/PabstBlueRibbon/status/736305632815554561
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Oh. Then nevermind. WWE are morons.
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Look out chuck taylor and apsouthern
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Man, shut the gently caress up Vader https://twitter.com/itsvadertime/status/736800547156545541
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if he watched the actual match he'd know that there was a drat story to it
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What's he talking about?
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6EQUJ5 6 7 posted:What's he talking about? The Ricochet-Will Ospreay match. He was bitching earlier because they had a 2 minute spot to start it off that was both of them trying to out show off each other with highflier stuff and Vader was pulling the old man "loving THIS GENERATION and RUINING MY WRESTLING" poo poo about it, although he obviously didn't watch more than that two minutes
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I'll just post that moment from the Ospreay/Ricochet match people are talking about. Incidentally, this is probably one of the most popular tweets @SenorLARIATO has ever posted, if not the most. https://twitter.com/SenorLARIATO/status/736161744708603904
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AMReese posted:Dumb indie geeks I had no idea until just now that I need to see Ron Funches hanging out with New Day.
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AMReese posted:I'll just post that moment from the Ospreay/Ricochet match people are talking about. Incidentally, this is probably one of the most popular tweets @SenorLARIATO has ever posted, if not the most. Pfft, I could do what both of those guys are doing easily.  We're watching the guys in the white shirts in the second row, right? 
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Ricky Steamboat Vs Ric Flair was called a spotfest with no psychology back in 1978.
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I don't think its wrong to think something can both be really impressive but also too choreographed
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Hace posted:I don't think its wrong to think something can both be really impressive but also too choreographed Agreed, that's why Savage vs Steamboat doesn't count as a good match.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Ricky Steamboat Vs Ric Flair was called a spotfest with no psychology back in 1978. Thanks Dave Meltzer! https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/736769718573367296
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There's psychology there in that it's establishing the two as being evenly matched as flippy dudes. Still I'm bored with it. Reminds me a lot of the Jerry Lynn / RVD spot fest from late-era ECdub, but not nearly as good because it appeared that they were performing modern dance rather than tryna do moves at each other. Like if I wanted insane feats of acrobatics I'd watch that CMLL match with Dragon Lee I think it was? Last year, or the better LU spotfests which have the advantage of very careful editing to put across the point that bodies are being spun around for reasons other than the demonstration of bodily grace. I might just be odd in that I've seen similar dance routines and like them. I just want different stuff out of my wrestling matches. This also applies to spots like the tower of doom superplex that Cesaro always does in multimans, it's super contrived and yet lacks the comedic punch that always makes the big swing worth watching. Basic Chunnel fucked around with this message at 16:32 on May 29, 2016 |
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Another contrast would be something like the technical exchange between Tyson Kidd and Neville in one of their NXT matches, which serves the same psychological purpose and is also clearly choreographed but more clearly establishes that the two are engaged in a match that will be won by something other than a judge's panel decision.
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There is no endgame to "they aren't doing anything to try and win/hurt the other guy" argument Literally everything in wrestling is less effective than taking a guy down and punching him in the head
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Blast Fantasto posted:There is no endgame to "they aren't doing anything to try and win/hurt the other guy" great khali had it all figured out
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Blast Fantasto posted:There is no endgame to "they aren't doing anything to try and win/hurt the other guy" argument Wrestling isn't a great venue for hard sci fi varieties of sperg. MMA storytelling is for people who absolutely contest all contrivance. Wrestling allows for bullshit, it just has to run through its plot points in a satisfying fashion. Basic Chunnel fucked around with this message at 17:21 on May 29, 2016 |
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I can suspend my disbelief for a lot of wrestling bullshit, and I don't ask that wrestling be realistic, but I do want it to be something other than a masturbatory gymnastics routine. If your match opens with the indie standard of trading wristlocks and armdrags into a double kip-up and stand-off, my brain is switching off and your match is getting -5* from me. If you're going to rehearse a spot, try to not make it look too perfect and convoluted. If your spot involves more than one guy doing one backflip/corkscrew/cartwheel/whatever, it's probably too much. Basically every match should be Kevin Nash vs Scott Steiner.
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Vince MechMahon posted:Agreed, that's why Savage vs Steamboat doesn't count as a good match. I didn't realize I said choreography is bad!
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I'll take Big Daddy/Haystacks Calhoun for 2000.
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If you watch MMA / do any combat sports / have ever seen a real life fight / have an ounce of intelligence, all wrestling looks contrived and pantomime as gently caress, INCLUDING old poo poo and strong style NJPW stuff. So, to me, if you want me to pay attention to your wrestling match, toss in all the flips in the world. That's what wrestling is all about & that's it's major positive.
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