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Mans posted:Found two Chaos Armies next to each other so i meet them with Karl Franz and my other dude's army. I was fearing they'd retreat but they stood ground, making me excited to expect a nice battle. Franz's stack was right next to mine, frontally facing theirs on the strategic map. My empire campaign got somewhat hosed by this, I met up my only 2 full stacks Empire against two of the Vampire counts. It should have been a decent battle in my favor but the reenforcements had the VCs hammer and anviling me me with a cavalry and monster heavy reenforcement group coming from off map. No matter how many times I reloaded it was always the same, my large reenforcement group spawned a huge distance away and didn't have the speed to meet up with the enemy before the other group was completely routed. It was pretty bad
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victrix posted:Is there any way to see the ingame F1/Manual stuff online or download it somewhere? The in-game browser is kinda poo poo. http://whenc.totalwar.com/ Also, drat TW guys playing fast and lose - angular 1.5.5! Plavski fucked around with this message at 20:07 on May 29, 2016 |
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Lunethex posted:I'm not that good at Total War games but can someone give me a quick rundown on Empire units and what they're good at? All you need are 3 units and you can defeat anything ever easily. The Empire is so overpowered if you just use the Greatswords, Demigryph Knights (Halberds), and Great Cannons. This is the perfect army: 
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Triskelli posted:"Dwarf Bride" is a career choice in the RPG? Uh... No, I should have qualified with Empire Companions.
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May 29, 2016 20:09
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Dongattack posted:How are Vampire Count spellcaster heroes? I'm thinking i'm gonna roll all spellcaster heroes for them for the next game if they are good. The Vampire agent is pretty great, they get Fate of Bjuna and power drain in the same tree, plus they're tough in melee. Fate of Bjuna is just nuts.
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Mans posted:Found two Chaos Armies next to each other so i meet them with Karl Franz and my other dude's army. I was fearing they'd retreat but they stood ground, making me excited to expect a nice battle. Franz's stack was right next to mine, frontally facing theirs on the strategic map. Yeah bluh this is especially bad for slow slow dwarfs.
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May 29, 2016 20:13
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Kicking off an undead campaign on hard now that my Empire game on normal is in the bag. Knowing how much of a giant pain corruption is from the last game, I wanna try and run a more hero-centric strategy. Is there a good way to power-level hero experience that anyone has found? In my first game it seemed like successful assassinations would net you one level, but those are few and far between. Is there something I can spam with more success % and a decent exp reward? Or is it best to just embed my hero in my army? And on that note... do embedded heroes + multiple heroes showing up to a fight cause the experience to be split between them? Or does every exp-gaining unit get an equal share?
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May 29, 2016 20:15
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NuckmasterJ posted:Still not having any dwarf luck. My Warriors and Longbeards hold the line until they are almost wiped out, but I cant roll up a flank because of wolf and boar riders. Four units of Quarrelers don't even dent Grimgore and if they are trying to focus him 6 to 10 units of gobbo archers plink my guys down. Shoot the cavalry 
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May 29, 2016 20:19
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The pre-battle force strength bar was almost entirely red, suggesting I had no chance. But when I actually fought the battle... You could say my army was ogre-powered. 
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May 29, 2016 20:26
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Dongattack posted:How are Vampire Count spellcaster heroes? I'm thinking i'm gonna roll all spellcaster heroes for them for the next game if they are good. Vampire Lord have Vampire Lore spells. Vampire heroes have Death Lore spells. They're both insanely good and also fantastic melee units, Necromancers (Master and Hero) are just sorta there in comparison since they only have Vampire Lore spells though they'd be amazing spellcasters in any other army. Also Mannfred gets both Death and Vampire Lores which is lol since he's also one of the best lords in the game physically. In comparison, Kemmler only gets Vampire Lore and sucks in melee.
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May 29, 2016 20:32
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I started a new chaos campaign on v hard and recruited a horde headed by a death lore chaos lord on turn 2 or 3. Kholek is stomping around pretty much unbothered, and every random stack of nordlings makes a beeline straight to my sorcerer who "just" has a stack of marauders and hounds. Then he snipes out their lord, their morale breaks, and the hounds get 100+ kills a piece cleaning up. Starting an extra horde or two early on actually works pretty well
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May 29, 2016 20:35
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Aint talking poo poo anymore are you Von Carstein? William Bear posted:The pre-battle force strength bar was almost entirely red, suggesting I had no chance. But when I actually fought the battle... Its all ogre now.
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May 29, 2016 20:41
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May 29, 2016 20:43
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Oh man flamethrowers are not the thing to bring to fight a chaos doom stack. Giants trolls and chosen do not give a poo poo about fire. Also four giants do not all die before they hit.
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May 29, 2016 20:48
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Turn 160 as Thorim, beat short and long campaign goals, still wrapping up some of the quest stuff. Skirling and Varg are dead, bjornling stack is STILL just loving floating in the pirate ocean below tilea and I can't engage it. On the plus side the three remaining dwarf factions + empire and bretonnia declared war on estalia, tilea and border princes, so now I'm trying to hastily move my armies back. Thing is that I was the one doing most of the work up north, so empire and bretonnia managed to rebuild and recolonise a lot of sacked settlements. But seriously, the fact that the bjornling fleet is just chilling is very annoying. Any way of forcing it to just *move* so I can at least engage it?
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May 29, 2016 20:59
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99 turns in and I am bored of dwarfs.
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May 29, 2016 21:07
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William Bear posted:The pre-battle force strength bar was almost entirely red, suggesting I had no chance. But when I actually fought the battle... Shoulda checked himself before he Shrek'd himself.
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May 29, 2016 21:14
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How do I transfer units between armies? It's pretty weak to not be able to have general-less stacks to make this really simple. I just want to start a new Chaos horde that isn't doomed to be picked apart in its first battle because it's just marauders and horsemen and wolves. 
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May 29, 2016 21:18
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Zore posted:Vampire Lord have Vampire Lore spells. Vampire heroes have Death Lore spells. They're both insanely good and also fantastic melee units, Necromancers (Master and Hero) are just sorta there in comparison since they only have Vampire Lore spells though they'd be amazing spellcasters in any other army. Necros are underwhelming because their gimmicks are kinda weak. (and Vampires can get them too). I did some testing:  The regen from that is pitiful and you cannot stack the aura of multiple necros.  This is actually a very cool idea, that casting spells unleashes necro engergies. But it's just as underpowered as Master of the Dead. With unit scale set to small I ressed 1 skeleton with this. With unit scale set to ultra I got some hp only and no resses.
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I really do not miss town battles at all. Unupgraded / garrisoned towns just being open field fights instead of an uphill slog through death towers is a really great improvementHammerstein posted:This is actually a very cool idea, that casting spells unleashes necro engergies. But it's just as underpowered as Master of the Dead. How much HP restored though? Ressing units isn't the whole story
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May 29, 2016 21:20
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Back To 99 posted:All you need are 3 units and you can defeat anything ever easily. The Empire is so overpowered if you just use the Greatswords, Demigryph Knights (Halberds), and Great Cannons. I don't see any steam tanks in here.
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So I started a new Empire game. Beat up the Secessionists, but their leader was still alive and kept attacking one of my settlements by himself, but auto-battle kept letting him flee, despite him having like 4 hp. So after the third time I finally got fed up with it and fought the battle manually.  Eat poo poo, rear end in a top hat.
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terrorist ambulance posted:I really do not miss town battles at all. Unupgraded / garrisoned towns just being open field fights instead of an uphill slog through death towers is a really great improvement From 3423 (out of 320) to 3432 for a mighty 9 hp.
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I really want to do a VC campaign after my Empire one finishes up, but it seems like it'd be a lot of fighting in the same area. I have not fought anything besides Chaos/Norscans, Empire, and Vampire units. I've never even seen the Dwarves or Greenskin army or campaign area. How much of the VC campaign is like a mirror of the Empire one, just moving the other direction? And I wish defending towns sometimes had a small town feature on the map instead of just being open, or more interesting maps in general. There's not much on them at all.
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Back To 99 posted:All you need are 3 units and you can defeat anything ever easily. The Empire is so overpowered if you just use the Greatswords, Demigryph Knights (Halberds), and Great Cannons. You don't really need that many greatswords, Swordsmen are probably the best bang for your buck in the game if level up that skill that gives them 12 extra defense and attack.
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queeb posted:what's the shortcut to have all your units attack a good target for them? like, instead of right clicking and they all attack the one unit, i think there's a way to order a general attack and they all march forward and attack something ahead of them. I tried alt-right click but that didnt seem to work. Alt. Check out the advanced control options.
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Really in situations where you aren't floating 70k gold fielding an army of all elite units is gonna wreck your upkeep in reutnr for a single army who is gonna spend a lot of time chasing chaos armies in circles and turning around to deal with skaeling raids. The game so far seems to do a good job balancing high upkeep elites who murder everything they touch against cheaper troops who can hold a line, pull siege labor duty, and deal with raiders.
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Zore posted:It was out the second the game released. This is an old post but Radious is a smug retard like Darth at this point. His mods have absolutely no testing done to them before he releases it and as always he just increases morale across the board without a thought about what the game is now (assymetrical warfare with wildly different races) and he just makes the economy absolutely trivial. I called him out on his workshop mod discussion and basically asked him if he played even one vanilla campaign before loving the game up and he told me he had the game for a few weeks. I bet he didnt test poo poo.
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sebmojo posted:Alt. Check out the advanced control options. Strangely this does not work for me. Only way to get my units to pick targets is to lock their formation and then click on a unit. Hammerstein fucked around with this message at 23:39 on May 29, 2016 |
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KnoxZone posted:So I started a new Empire game. Beat up the Secessionists, but their leader was still alive and kept attacking one of my settlements by himself, but auto-battle kept letting him flee, despite him having like 4 hp. So after the third time I finally got fed up with it and fought the battle manually. Hahaha its the same guy but I killed him with a Bright Wizard fireball in mine. 
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Despite the fact that the game said "this race has no tutorial!" I decided to play as the orcs. I played alittle shogun so I'm not coming in completely blind and gently caress playing as the humans. Few questions: I get the concept of fightiness. That said, I still want to have a standing army in my capitol city. How do I keep my cities/choke points defended without losing all my units to attrition? Is there no option to loosen formation when under missile fire? Also, no spear wall?
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PantsBandit posted:Despite the fact that the game said "this race has no tutorial!" I decided to play as the orcs. I played alittle shogun so I'm not coming in completely blind and gently caress playing as the humans. Few questions: The raiding camp stance raises fightiness, though it tanks income and public order in a friendly province. Your capital has a pretty big garrison and there's a building chain that enhances it, so it's not really necessary to leave an army behind. Minor cities in choke points can have walls built with a building chain to hold off small raiding armies or buy time to move reinforcements in. It doesn't look like there are options for loose formation or spear wall. Your only spear unit is goblins who can't really stand up to any real cavalry and if you're getting shot you've just got to get stuck in 
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The view range mechanic is all kinds of bullshit. "Oh, I wonder where the gigantic undead army is oh no wait they're literally on top of my lines my bad I must have missed them."
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PantsBandit posted:Is there no option to loosen formation when under missile fire? Also, no spear wall? Not that I'm aware. The game remains true to the block movement of the original table-top game in that regard. Instead of different tactics of the same basic troops of previous games this game exchanges that for monsters, magic, and heroes.
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PantsBandit posted:Despite the fact that the game said "this race has no tutorial!" I decided to play as the orcs. I played alittle shogun so I'm not coming in completely blind and gently caress playing as the humans. Few questions: If an orc army's fightiness gets too low and they start taking attrition, you get an option called Quell Animosity on the stack that lets you take a chunk of casualties in exchange for a big bump to the fightiness meter. This effectively means that garrison stacks don't need to worry about fightiness since they'll replenish the Quell Animosity casualties by virtue of sitting in a town.
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Boon posted:Not that I'm aware. The game remains true to the block movement of the original table-top game in that regard. Instead of different tactics of the same basic troops of previous games this game exchanges that for monsters, magic, and heroes. I'm looking forward to a big battle overhaul mod at some point that gives formations back rather than the blobbiness of recent TW, to bide my time until this came out I played a lot of Divide Et Impera for Rome 2 and I really miss the way heavy, disciplined infantry would fight in a formation, it made the battles prettier and differentiated the different kinds of infantry nicely. Kinda looks like poo poo in comparison when two lines collide and spray units everywhere so you have half a dozen units fighting eachother in a tangle and your cavalry are fighting 3 units in different places simultaneously. Too much Age of Sigmar influence imo. Also they seem to have gotten rid of the group formations buttons and boiled it down to melee front and ranged front, thats a real shame, makes organising reinforcements way more of a pain in the rear end.
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sassassin posted:99 turns in and I am bored of dwarfs. After starting an Empire game I quickly came to the conclusion that Dwarfs are boring. Way more poo poo to keep an eye on and stuff to play with in Empire.
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Berious posted:After starting an Empire game I quickly came to the conclusion that Dwarfs are boring. Way more poo poo to keep an eye on and stuff to play with in Empire. Yeah I had much more fun in my empire campaign as well. Probably didn't help that I never even got to put gyrocopters in any of my armies before I beat the dwarf campaign.
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Zore posted:Zombies are terrible. Avoid them as much as possible and treat them as utterly disposable. Skeletons work better to hold the line because they're faster and don't get murdered by ranged as easily. Thanks! I was having trouble figuring out how to use the monsters. Time to start the campaign again.
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