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NJ State Police retracted the statement that the pilot was okay, they now list him as missing.quote:New Jersey State Police said at around 9 p.m. the pilot had been rescued and was being taken to the hospital with minor injuries, but NYPD Deputy Chief Rodney Harrison said in a news briefing a short time later that the pilot remains unaccounted for and that New Jersey State Police's report that he was rescued was "inaccurate."
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SeaborneClink posted:NJ State Police retracted the statement that the pilot was okay, they now list him as missing.  Then maybe it wasn't mechanical failure 
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May 28, 2016 03:45
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SeaborneClink posted:NJ State Police retracted the statement that the pilot was okay, they now list him as missing. Yeah, he ended up not making it
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May 28, 2016 04:40
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Enourmo posted:Wait til Falcon Heavy starts flying and they're landing 3 per launch. I hope after they manage a few of those they do the obvious PR thing and put the barges near enough to each other that a single shot can show all three landing, preferably at the same time.
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May 28, 2016 05:24
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CommieGIR posted:SpaceX landed their rocket, again. I think they've got it down. A video sped up like 5x: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jEz03Z8azc
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May 28, 2016 05:41
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Luneshot posted:A video sped up like 5x: I was expecting more flying cars, but living in the future can be pretty awesome sometimes.
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May 28, 2016 06:51
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 The best part, IMO, is that it being used for mail, of all things.
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May 28, 2016 09:06
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Luneshot posted:A video sped up like 5x: 
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May 28, 2016 13:20
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Luneshot posted:A video sped up like 5x: MechJeb has really come a long way 
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May 28, 2016 16:24
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EightBit posted:MechJeb has really come a long way  You'll make Kerbal purists cry
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May 28, 2016 20:10
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Platystemon posted:
The military did test ICBM mail delivery (worked, hideously expensive) back in the late '50s.
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May 28, 2016 20:15
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Party Plane Jones posted:The military did test ICBM mail delivery (worked, hideously expensive) back in the late '50s.  The only time anyone ever found a use for the Regulus (other than as target drones). BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 00:09 on May 29, 2016 |
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May 28, 2016 22:37
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wolrah posted:I hope after they manage a few of those they do the obvious PR thing and put the barges near enough to each other that a single shot can show all three landing, preferably at the same time. I believe the side boosters will almost always be going low and slow enough that they'll return to land. Could be mistaken though. The center core would land far, far away from the boosters regardless; it'll drop off way later just like on the Delta IV Heavy.
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May 28, 2016 23:07
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They fished the P-47 that went into the Hudson out. Looks like the pilot probably drowned. 
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May 29, 2016 08:49
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The P-47 gives no fucks. "Bad luck about my pilot, but Nazis used to run out of ammo trying to shoot me down. Not even the toxicity of this shitwater will keep me from being airworthy again in a month."
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May 29, 2016 09:33
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Wow, that is impressively intact, even for the Jug. I wonder if he tried to ditch in the Hudson because he figured that it might survive?
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May 29, 2016 11:31
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Fredrick posted:Wow, that is impressively intact, even for the Jug. I wonder if he tried to ditch in the Hudson because he figured that it might survive? Well depending on how high he was there really isn't any other option. Teterboro or Newark are your only bets on the Jersey side (even then TEB is a few miles inland), and if you fall short it's pretty much narrow residential streets. But, armchair piloting etc.
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May 29, 2016 11:36
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I really want to make US Airways 1549 "We're gonna be in the Hudson" jokes but someone actually died
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May 29, 2016 11:50
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How cold is the Hudson right now? If this guy wasn't wearing a life preserver, or went under with the plane and got disoriented, that could easily spell the end. Looks like he made a deliberate attempt to ditch cause the blades intact and his flaps are down.
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May 29, 2016 15:53
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I wonder if that canopy was open before they recovered his body. If not it's a shame to think that he ditched and got stuck. I'm p sure you're supposed to partially open your door/canopy before ditching.
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May 29, 2016 16:54
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Bob A Feet posted:How cold is the Hudson right now? If this guy wasn't wearing a life preserver, or went under with the plane and got disoriented, that could easily spell the end. Looks like he made a deliberate attempt to ditch cause the blades intact and his flaps are down. Those blades are most decidedly NOT intact. The engine was windmilling, at least, if not running.
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May 29, 2016 17:34
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MrYenko posted:Those blades are most decidedly NOT intact. The engine was windmilling, at least, if not running. How do you figure? I only see one bent blade in the hoist picture; the others look fine. What am I missing?
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May 29, 2016 17:37
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The blades are probably the most easily sourced replacement part of that whole plane.
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May 29, 2016 17:40
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CommieGIR posted:The blades are probably the most easily sourced replacement part of that whole plane. It's in poor taste given the circumstances, but the most easily sourced replacement part of any plane is the pilot
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May 29, 2016 17:44
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Yeah they aren't feathered but they aren't bent back either. A windmilling prop on a ditching landing would make him land really hard.
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May 29, 2016 17:49
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Bob A Feet posted:Yeah they aren't feathered but they aren't bent back either. A windmilling prop on a ditching landing would make him land really hard. One of them is absolutely bent backwards. It does look remarkably intact otherwise though.
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May 29, 2016 18:01
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Given how intact the aircraft is, I am really curious as to why the pilot didn't make it.
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May 29, 2016 18:25
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The Locator posted:Given how intact the aircraft is, I am really curious as to why the pilot didn't make it. Knocked unconscious on impact?
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May 29, 2016 18:29
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People train specifically for getting out of upside down aircraft in water, it's very difficult. The flip can be very violent. He could've been knocked unconscious or just got confused and stuck. Btw, I'm pretty sure the P-47 can't feather its prop.
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May 29, 2016 18:38
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It can be tricky getting out of a kayak when upside down in certain situations, and that's definitely a large design focus for whitewater boats. A plane where upside down exits are a tertiary concern is going to be a clusterfuck, especially after ditching.
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May 29, 2016 21:44
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbixjnhpt-U Quality isn’t great, but you can get an idea of the speed the plan hit the water at. EvilJoven posted:I wonder if that canopy was open before they recovered his body. If not it's a shame to think that he ditched and got stuck. I'm p sure you're supposed to partially open your door/canopy before ditching. a witness posted:You could see him trying to get out of the harness of whatever - whatever he was strapped to, the seatbelt or harness or whatever, but he couldn’t get out. I also read that the canopy was open, not sure where, though.
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May 29, 2016 22:37
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Man that sucks. I know what it's like to have to deal with flipped sailboats and stuff and ya poo poo can get disorienting and dangerous real quick. I can't imagine flipping a plane.
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May 29, 2016 23:39
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All Navy/USMC aircrew do helicopter egress training every few years for stuff like this. They have huge pseudo helicopter hulks in pools to train you for it. It's awesome if your comfortable in the water. It's terrifying if you're scared of it. I know people who've lost flight orders cause they couldnt pass it.
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May 30, 2016 00:27
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Local NYC news here reported an eyewitness that saw the pilot struggling with the belts but it went under almost immediately.
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Bob A Feet posted:All Navy/USMC aircrew do helicopter egress training every few years for stuff like this. They have huge pseudo helicopter hulks in pools to train you for it. It's awesome if your comfortable in the water. It's terrifying if you're scared of it. I know people who've lost flight orders cause they couldnt pass it. Do they actually do the dunking each time? The USAF only does that part once, but you have to get a refresher on the rest of the water survival training regularly. It's too expensive to maintain the dunker and the pool everywhere, or send everyone through repeatedly.
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May 30, 2016 04:08
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Another factor is that the Hudson' salt water. Even if the structure is undamaged, that plane's gonna take a lot of work.
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Phanatic posted:Another factor is that the Hudson' salt water. Even if the structure is undamaged, that plane's gonna take a lot of work. depends on the tide, it is an outflowing river, after all
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May 30, 2016 04:35
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VikingSkull posted:depends on the tide, it is an outflowing river, after all It's brackish all the way up to the dam, 150 miles upriver. The tides keep it pretty well mixed. The peak salt concentration depends on the tide, but the whole thing is salty below Federal Dam.
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Godholio posted:Do they actually do the dunking each time? The USAF only does that part once, but you have to get a refresher on the rest of the water survival training regularly. It's too expensive to maintain the dunker and the pool everywhere, or send everyone through repeatedly. Yeah. Three evolutions, one with black out goggles, and the qual per TMS is good for three years. Or four. Id have to look. I'm about to do it again this month. It really is valuable training. Doing it all upside down can be a total mind gently caress. Not to mention you must wait until all violent motion stops before releasing your restraints. Upside down. Under water. In the dark. There is a big push for all embarked personnel from Marine Expeditionary Units (Marines on boats) to do it as they ride on to and off of Navy ships onboard rotary wing aircraft. My last MEU however only like half the people got training due to timing and funding. Thankfully, last rotary wing crash with passengers was off of DJ in 2014. Somehow the CH-53 floated or flipped and then floated with the cargo ramp open so everyone was able to swim out with ease. I know both of the pilots (we shared a hangar with the parent squadron) and everyone agreed it was a miracle.
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