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CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Lord of Pie posted:

It will be the site of the government's newest FEMA tarp factory

No, it should be a tarp recycling center. Day after day, countless numbers of tarps chewed up and turned into their base components.

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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Perfectly Safe posted:

...and turning it into "The Federal Lavoy Finnicum BLM Museum", an everlasting monument celebrating the crucial work of the Bureau of Land Management.

"And this is the dildo wing..."

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

TheMadMilkman posted:

I shouldn't have looked up her Facebook page and scrolled through. It's thoroughly depressing.

Also, she posted this:



That is dangerously close to deifying/worshipping LaVoy. In the early days of the LDS church it would probably have been enough to have her excommunicated.

why. because he either suicide by cop or literally thought could john marston the cops and shoot them all like his lovely fanfiction.(and we saw how that turned out)


Marijuana Nihilist posted:

Lavoy was an old man who was going to spend his last remaining years in prison, he actually took the smart way out. Cliven Bundy on the other hand is going to eat lovely prison food for the rest of his life

pretty much, he will be remembered as "martyr" by his flock, the bundys will probably be forgotten except for some small passage about weird poo poo during the obama years.

trickybiscuits
Jan 13, 2008

yospos

Knight posted:

Ritzheimer said this was a bad idea on Facebook, Briana Bundy responded telling him NEVER to question her husband! :byodame:

http://archive.is/hcLUs

"You don't know (X)" should be like Godwin's Law, anyone who uses it immediately loses the argument.

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Mormon Constitutionalist Jesus would be lame as gently caress. Like he would show up and save a party by turning barrels of horrible, undrinkable wine into caffeine free rootbeer.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Dapper_Swindler posted:

why. because he either suicide by cop or literally thought could john marston the cops and shoot them all like his lovely fanfiction.(and we saw how that turned out)


pretty much, he will be remembered as "martyr" by his flock, the bundys will probably be forgotten except for some small passage about weird poo poo during the obama years.

I've heard that the 'true believers of SovCits are convinced that the government was just itching to kill them all for spreading their "truth and freedom". Since the government agents only killed one man, somehow that one man must have done something super heroic to prevent it. What that act was, they have no idea, but it must surely have happened. If he wasn't, that means they'd be wrong about the government and possibly their rebellion, so that can't happen. Since he's nice and dead, he can't do anything to disprove this idea, unlike those Bundys who happen to be captured and held in humane conditions (they didn't win or fight to the death like real heroes SovCits want), so he becomes the icon to focus on. The more reality fails to agree with their belief, the harder they dive into it. Reflection is just too painful to face for them.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Not so fast, Philpot:
https://twitter.com/TRKessler55/status/736044496371089408

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!

wait he picked another utah rep who hasn't even passed the bar lmao

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Prokhor Zakharov posted:

wait he picked another utah rep who hasn't even passed the bar lmao

No, this is the same person. They filed to switch attorneys before he had finished being approved to practice in the state.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

trickybiscuits posted:

"You don't know (X)" should be like Godwin's Law, anyone who uses it immediately loses the argument.

How do you know people evolved from apes, were you there??? :smug:

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe
This is all a false flag by the government to discredit militias. They're all actors.

PST
Jul 5, 2012

If only Milliband had eaten a vegan sausage roll instead of a bacon sandwich, we wouldn't be in this mess.
I'm sure Ammon Bundy's new lawyer won't at all be distracted with his ongoing State Senate campaign, certainly no chance this is a publicity stunt by him.

quote:

Scott Rohter FYI everybody.. Mike Arnold is a .;.. Democrat. While everybody is praising him here did any of you folks know that he belongs to the Party that put Ammon and Ryan and Cliven and all of the other protestors in jail... HE IS A DEMOCRAT FOR PETE'S SAKE.

Arnold Law Firm If you have any hope of changing the world, you need all sorts behind you or enjoy being marginalized and accomplishing nothing but making noise.

Arnold Law Firm And your jury is full of democrats and all the Harney county government folks that participated against the protest were Republicans, etc. But all are Americans. Focus on that or be irrelevant. #commonground

YOU MAKE SOME GOOD POINTS.. BUT DID YOU NOT VOTE FOR KATE BROWN IN THE DEMOCRAT PRIMARY.. DIDNT KATE BROWN ISSUE THE ORDER FOR THE OSP TO USE ALL AVAILABLE FORCE TO END THE PROTEST?.. DIDNT SHE APPEAL TO OBAMA, MERKLEY, AND WIDEN TO END THE STANDOFF... ? WASNT IT A DEMOCRAT HEAD OF THE DOJ APPOINTED BY A DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT WHO RESENTENCED THE HAMMONDS TO SPEND ADDITIONAL TIME IN JAIL UNDER A BILL CLINTON ANTI TERRORISIT ACT?.. DON'T MOST DUMMYCRATS BELIEVE THAT PUBLIC LANDS SHOULD REMAIN UNDER FEDERAL CONTROL? WHY ARE YOU A DEMOCRAT IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE BUNDY'S CAUSE AND WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR HILLARY CLINTON? YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT ALL OF US BEING AMERICANS NO MATTER WHAT POLITICAL PARTY WE BELONG TO BUT YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT ME BEING IRRELEVANT.. I HAVE BETWEEN 300 AND 1000 PEOPLE A DAY VISITING MY WEBSITE AT https://www.lessgovisthebestgov.com. and I have written legislation that passed the Oregon legislature. One final stastic for you MIke.... ARENT DEMOCRATS THE ONES WHO USUALLY PULL THE TRIGGER AND COMMITT VIOLENCE WITH GUNS in America? IT ISNT CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS WHO LOVE THE LORD WHO ARE OMITTING THE GUN CRIMES.!!!!

Arnold Law Firm We voted for "not Kate Brown" (whoever was running against her).

Arnold Law Firm Conservative democrats are the only hope for the Democratic Party. Sadly they are ignored in the primaries. We need open primaries in Oregon and elsewhere to fix that.

i THINK THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRAT.. YOU NEED TO GET REAL.. YOUR PARTY HAS GONE TO THE SOCIALISTS.. YOU NEED TO BECOME REPUBLICANS DONT YA THINK AND VOTE FOR TRUMP

I DONT EVEN THINK DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO OWN GUNS... LOL

THEY DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT BATHROOM A MAN SHOULD USE DO THEY? HOW CAN THEY BE TRUSTED WITH GUNS???

AND AS FAR AS THE CONTROL OF PULIC LANDS MOST OF THEM SHOULD BE RETURNED TO STATE AND LOCAL CONTROL UNLESS OF COURSE YOU BELIEVE THAT THE CONSTITUTION GIVES THE POWER TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT UNDER THE GENERAL WELFARE CLAUSE OR THE PROPERTY CLAUSE? AND THEY CAN DO A BETTER JOB MANAGING OUR PUBLIC LANDS.. DO YOU?

BTW...I BELIEVE YOU COULD BE HAVING A CHANGE OF HEART ON WHAT PARTY TO BELONG TO... BUT YOU NEED TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL MIKE BY UNREGISTERING AS A DUMMYCRAT.

AND I AM NOT IRRELEVENT FYI.. I HAD ALMOST A MILLION PAGES VIEWED ON MY WEBSITE LAST YEAR..

Bonus crazy

quote:

There will be a large education exposed when this court hears the argument or wait did I say court what court ? Now how would A Private Foreign Corporation that sells the 19 essential Governmental Services for profit have the constitutional authority with the missing enabling clause that prohibits religion code, the 1700s slave codes called the black codes or color of law and most important have a foreign private court of geographical jurisdiction of Vatican City using Vicar General religion Cannon Codes that eliminate their agreement to the treaties to remain in the people for the people by the peoples Country that their Foreign Nation of England is trespassing upon the law of the land. I would say that the Adolf Hitlers Enabling Act instead of the Enabling Clause misleading the public into being a United States Citizen of England's Foreign State removing the American People ignoring their Declaration of Independence from England Declared every fourth of July will be a big hit. I sure hope the public hears the part about the IRS and Social Security the theft from their labor and resources supports the Queen of England along with every other tax we the people enactment to be foreigners in our own Country that these fools call a nation of england. So what Court are these imposters trespassing on the people's land talking about ? Governments do not own land, Corporations are not Governments, Walmart's can be corporations and have Obama the CEO President and own land but they absolutely cannot be government private. THE GIGS UP.

PST has issued a correction as of 13:11 on May 28, 2016

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
That's quality info/quotes, PST. I hadn't realized he was running now, only that he'd run in the past. Where are the quotes from?

Rick_Hunter
Jan 5, 2004

My guys are still fighting the hard fight!
(weapons, shields and drones are still online!)
IoSM Thread: AND I AM NOT IRRELEVENT FYI.. I HAD ALMOST A MILLION PAGES VIEWED ON MY WEBSITE LAST YEAR..

Super Space Jam 64
Jan 6, 2010

Yet another violation of regulation 1910 subpart D.
I really liked the thread where we all :popcorn: TVIV'd the last couple of guys livestreaming going crazy and Mark the amazing FBI man talking them out of suicide

idk if this is the same thread but that one was good. Are more things like that happening in the sovcit zone

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Knight posted:

I have no idea, but Google-fu says it's from the good Book of Mormon

someone please make "spooky mormon hell" jokes on the fb page plz

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

OAquinas posted:

Great, I just conflated that with Family Guy's "greased up deaf guy" and now I'm going to hell.

South Park Mel Gibson for me

PST
Jul 5, 2012

If only Milliband had eaten a vegan sausage roll instead of a bacon sandwich, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Discendo Vox posted:

That's quality info/quotes, PST. I hadn't realized he was running now, only that he'd run in the past. Where are the quotes from?

The Arnold Law facebook page, which is almost as much a labyrinth of crazed twists and turns as the Bundy facebook is, with bonus legal moments. Apparently Arnold is a 'Conservative, constitutionalist liberal' who's now thoroughly anti BMI etc. Ohh and do please keep those donations coming.

Kazak_Hstan
Apr 28, 2014

Grimey Drawer

Bombadilillo posted:

My favorite part of the Bible is when Jesus ran in a circle yelling

"Your gonna have to crucify me. Over and over"

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
I always vote for the party opposing the dummycraps, whoever that may be.

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH

PST posted:

The Arnold Law facebook page, which is almost as much a labyrinth of crazed twists and turns as the Bundy facebook is, with bonus legal moments. Apparently Arnold is a 'Conservative, constitutionalist liberal' who's now thoroughly anti BMI etc. Ohh and do please keep those donations coming.

What's he got against Body Mass Index :confused:

trickybiscuits
Jan 13, 2008

yospos

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

How do you know people evolved from apes, were you there??? :smug:
Yes

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Volcott posted:

Did the LDS ever apologize for that one?

(I guess they help maintain the monument and elders show up at memorial services. So there's that.)

As I recall the LDS leaders were able to deny they had any part in it and got off. It was all pinned on the guys directly involved.
Best part was the backstabbing "Out here the indians are our friends" *dresses as indians to attack wagon train*

Seriously, the movie kinda sucked. Just read up on it, it's more than enough to get your blood boiling

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.

SocketWrench posted:

As I recall the LDS leaders were able to deny they had any part in it and got off. It was all pinned on the guys directly involved.
Best part was the backstabbing "Out here the indians are our friends" *dresses as indians to attack wagon train*

Seriously, the movie kinda sucked. Just read up on it, it's more than enough to get your blood boiling

It's one of those things that was obviously horrible, but is also way more trouble than its worth to mention in public, lest you be branded anti-Morm.

Y'know, like that time Israel murdered a bunch of US sailors.

Bates
Jun 15, 2006
This is the saddest armed insurrection since John Brown. But sad for entirely different reasons.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Anos posted:

This is the saddest armed insurrection since John Brown. But sad for entirely different reasons.

hey, at least my grandad went down swinging :colbert:

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Volcott posted:

Y'know, like that time Israel murdered a bunch of US sailors.

Is the official line on that one "it was, an accident. Uh, a sustained, multiple-sortie accident?"

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.

Otisburg posted:

Is the official line on that one "it was, an accident. Uh, a sustained, multiple-sortie accident?"

Yes.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

VikingSkull posted:

hey, at least my grandad went down swinging :colbert:

people will remember your grandpa as something other than a clown who shot



edit: gently caress I swear they were using guns last I remembered it

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/WandaKTVZ/status/737142702270095363

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



When I put garbage on public land, it eventually gets picked up, too. They should be glad they weren't charged with littering.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

'Weapon of war' destined for occupied refuge, prosecutor says

The machine gun, the prosecutor said, is "capable of killing a person from over a mile away, taking out the engine block of a vehicle, shooting through a brick wall."

And Michael R. Emry's intent, he said, was to get the stolen .50-caliber gun to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge occupation.

"He couldn't because of the law enforcement presence," said Assistant U.S. Attorney Nathan Lichvarcik.

The prosecutor made the disclosures but provided few details during a federal court hearing this week in Eugene. Emry is being held on federal weapons charges.

Emry operated an online news service called "The Voice of Idaho" and was an Idaho militiaman who billed himself as an "embedded journalist" during the standoff in Harney County.

The militants who took over the refuge Jan. 2 maintained security patrols outfitted with side arms and rifles. The machine gun probably would have been the biggest weapon there had Emry succeeded. The .50-caliber gun, Lichvarcik said, is "a weapon of war" and "the silverback gorilla of the gun world."

EMRY Michael Lane SO booking.jpg
Michael R. Emry
Lane County Sheriff's Office

Emry was arrested in John Day in early May after FBI agents found the machine gun - identified by agents as an M2 Browning -- in a travel trailer serving as his home. The 54-year-old acknowledged that he stole it from a Boise dealer and ground off the serial numbers, Lichvarcik said. He said Emry was trying to sell the gun.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Jolie Russo ordered Emry to remain in custody, finding that "there are no conditions that will reasonably assure the safety of the community."

Prosecutors said Emry faces four years in prison.

Lichvarcik said an informant told authorities about Emry's plan to take the weapon to the refuge, which occupiers held for 41 days.

Scott Willingham, one of the militants who was part of the security force, told The Oregonian/OregonLive that Emry was at the refuge not only for media purposes but because of his weapons expertise. He was not the informant in Emry's case.

Early in the occupation, he noted, Emry was set up in one of the small houses reserved for refuge employees when most occupiers shared sleeping quarters in a bunkhouse. He also said that he knows of one occupier who obtained an AK-47 semiautomatic rifle from Emry.

Willingham recently pleaded guilty to stealing a federal surveillance camera during the occupation.

Emry has described himself as the "Picasso of machine guns," and in 2004 testified in a Tennessee case that he had manufactured 66 illegal machine guns and constructed a large bomb. He was a cooperating witness at the time and was never charged.

Document: Michael Emry's 2004 testimony

During the May 23 court hearing in Eugene, Lichvarcik said FBI agents found a blasting cap – "a detonator for a bomb" – in Emry's trailer.

An informant told authorities that Emry spoke of having a large arsenal of weapons and access to grenades. He also talked of "shooting police officers and how a .50 cal would penetrate the side of a police car and a Kevlar vest," according to Lichvarcik.

The prosecutor said Emry was overheard on a phone call saying he knew the informant's identity and made what appeared to be a threatening remark.

"The confidential witness believes that Emry's conduct since being arrested is putting his or her life in danger," Lichvarcik said.

Emry's attorney, Mark Spence, questioned the informant's credibility in court. The informant, who was not identified, "has been unreliable in the past, can't be relied on, and appears to be engaged in sort of self-serving hyperbole," Spence said.

Spence asked that Emry be released until trial so he could help his wife get established before he faces "the possibility of a significant consequence" in the weapons case.

Seven people submitted letters urging Emry's release, including two volunteer Grant County sheriff's deputies.

Document: Letters of support

Judy Kerr of Canyon City, a retired Forest Service worker who is a public lands deputy, said Emry is "an even-tempered and peaceful individual who has acted as a calming influence at community meetings and gatherings." She said he had been "a regular guest in our home."

Elaine Smith of Prairie City, a special deputy for natural resource planning, said Emry is not "a danger to the community" and she hoped he "will be released to come back here to live."



http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/05/weapon_of_war_destined_for_occ.html#incart_river_home_pop

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
I wonder what the repercussions are for someone with a special FFL for a big fuckoff gun and then you get it stolen by some two bit hick

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Alan Smithee posted:

I wonder what the repercussions are for someone with a special FFL for a big fuckoff gun and then you get it stolen by some two bit hick

I have a friend who is an arms dealer with the FFL that lets you sell virtually anything. He was looking for a rental place to store some literal artillery and mentioned some pretty strict requirements for building security and access control and stuff. There's definitely an onus on the merchant to do basic due diligence, probably as a hedge against "oops it looks like those ma deuces i was waiting to sell to a collector were 'stolen' and somehow ended up in the hands of my militia buddies."

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
At least those guys are mostly toothless as we saw from "Crossdraw McGraw"

I'd hate for someone like James Holmes with the determination that meth gives you picking the lock on your U-Store-It unit and then using your m134 to mow down 200 people a minute at the county fair

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005



Yes, the guy who stole a machine gun, filed off the serial number and has in the past built bombs is totally not a danger to anyone.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

muscles like this? posted:

Yes, the guy who stole a machine gun, filed off the serial number and has in the past built bombs is totally not a danger to anyone.

well let's be fair he'd probably try to rambo it at the cops and they'd shoot him with a plain ol' 5.56

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



What do you think the lifespan is on a guy setting up a big rear end machine gun that's pointed at a bunch of feds

slumdoge millionare
Feb 17, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer

Epic High Five posted:

What do you think the lifespan is on a guy setting up a big rear end machine gun that's pointed at a bunch of feds

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Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

Epic High Five posted:

What do you think the lifespan is on a guy setting up a big rear end machine gun that's pointed at a bunch of feds

About as long as it'd take the SWAT or HRT sniper to finish his coffee.

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