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When I see an orc in the warcrafft movie, I think "boy these orcs look like dogshit, as does the entire movie."
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Tender Bender posted:The guy who said the WoW universe is kind of boring is right on point: it works in the games because the entire conceit is "a colorful pastiche of generic fantasy stuff, but you're actually exploring it/controlling armies in it". In film it's just a generic fantasy setting without a hook. Yeah, even in the service for the Warcraft games the quality of the main story ranges from mediocre to downright terrible. Hardly any cared about the story because WoW was a loot treadmill first and foremost but that doesn't mean making a movie out of it is the brightest idea.
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May 31, 2016 06:08
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GonSmithe posted:Or, it is a bad movie. I'm one of those and like I said, I liked it.
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May 31, 2016 06:42
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Mr. Flunchy posted:I've got to hand it to Universal, releasing it everywhere except the USA and watching international critics and audiences kick the poo poo out of it for two weeks is a really novel way of building hype. For some weird reason they're releasing it in every major market before the US except Australia, where they're releasing it the week after. (Also Japan gets it a month late, but Japan gets everything a month late.) I wonder why they're holding it back from us Aussies. It's not like my fellow countrymen will just politely wait for it to get released here, Australians are notorious piraters.
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May 31, 2016 06:55
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Did forest trolls and ogres make it in?
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May 31, 2016 10:58
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Uncle Wemus posted:Did forest trolls and ogres make it in? Its really just orcs and humans. There's a couple of dwarves and high elves, but they're completely tangential to the plot. And even by the weird cartoony visual style of the movie, the high elves looked strikingly awful. edit: I don't know if spoilers are even necessary here, but I guess someone might give a poo poo about it.
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May 31, 2016 11:18
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Uncle Wemus posted:Did forest trolls and ogres make it in? Nope but Murlocs were in. Or at least one.
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tazjin posted:My theory is that a lot of the people rating it badly (sometimes without having seen it) are people who used to play WoW and now pretend they've "grown out of it" and I'd consider Lothar the main character, if only because the movie focuses so much on his exploits and he's the guy who knows what most of the threats really are at the end of the movie. Khadgar is a side guy, Durotan gets a lot of screentime but he's ultimately not the main guy on account of dying and all . Garona is an important character, but we don't spend enough time on her story. She's more of a guide for the story to help progress, and to give us exposition.
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May 31, 2016 14:25
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about it to make themselves feel more like adults.
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GonSmithe posted:Or, it is a bad movie. Here's the thing, it's not a bad movie, it's not a great movie either, it's just a good movie with some flaws here and there. I don't think it deserves the amount of vitriol being thrown at it from almost all quarters. It also, for some strange reason, looks way better on the big screen than the trailers and still-pictures does, the best way to describe it, is that the trailers looks like that new TV you friend has brought that is still set to the showroom-setting.
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May 31, 2016 14:34
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:For some weird reason they're releasing it in every major market before the US except Australia, where they're releasing it the week after. (Also Japan gets it a month late, but Japan gets everything a month late.) Maybe the thought process is an expectation that it will do better overseas, thus release there first so positive reviews and sales can build hype for the US. No idea on you Aussies though
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May 31, 2016 14:46
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Some people speculate that because Euro Cup starts on June 10th that the country is devoted to watching soccer non-stop so it would be a bad time to release something like this.
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May 31, 2016 15:09
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Despite its issues I still thoroughly enjoyed it
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Looke posted:Despite its issues I still thoroughly enjoyed it I enjoyed watching Ridiculous 6 with friends but that doesn't mean it's not a terrible movie.
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Wheeee posted:I enjoyed watching Ridiculous 6 with friends Dear lord...
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May 31, 2016 18:52
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Film is a social medium.
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May 31, 2016 18:54
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shoulda made a diablo movie instead.
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Groovelord Neato posted:shoulda made a
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that would've also been rad.
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Kelp Plankton posted:when's the Overwatch movie When Russia makes a woman powerful enough to play Zarya.
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Kelp Plankton posted:when's the Overwatch movie dont.
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tazjin posted:WoW is roughly 12 years old. I'm certain that its playerbase included some of these professional reviewers, who despite being professionals probably aren't unbiased. The video game stigma is just hard to overcome Blizzard for the past however many years has become infamous for writing some of the most aggressively terrible stories found anywhere in the AAA videogame market. It's a testament to their game mechanics that they are successful nonetheless. Mediocrity was the best possible outcome here 
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Kelp Plankton posted:when's the Overwatch movie I could google that for you but we'd get in trouble.
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Tender Bender posted:The guy who said the WoW universe is kind of boring is right on point: it works in the games because the entire conceit is "a colorful pastiche of generic fantasy stuff, but you're actually exploring it/controlling armies in it". In film it's just a generic fantasy setting without a hook. I think the WoW universe does have a unique appeal in its depiction of traditional, even stereotypical, fantasy archetypes in the process of metropolitanization as their various WARS make it necessary for them to evolve from the generic political and social structures of fantasy (generally some kind of romanticized European feudalism or other medieval society) into something that resembles modern nation states. They have to deal with the integration of of new ideas, new peoples and new technologies into their lives, and the immediacy of conflict means they don't have time to hem and haw about it that much. Things change, civilizations evolve, and the people living in the universe have to roll with the punches and move on because if they don't demons will eat them. That said I don't know how well that kind of thing translates to film. In a video game it works because the character can explore and see what happens when the Orcs have to rely on the Blood Elves to handle delicate magical archaeology or the Dwarves have to make way for their blood enemy Dark Iron cousins because they need Warlocks to bolster their forces. In a movie the plot and the characters and that other business isn't going to leave a ton of room to give us what really makes Warcraft cool, the fact that that plot and those characters impact the world and cause their factions and races to evolve. But that's just how I see it.
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I want it to do well because i want to see someone try to adapt Warcraft 3's story into a movie. How do you make a movie about Arthas becoming the Lich King and Thrall sailing to Kalimdor to fight Nelves?
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CJ posted:I want it to do well because i want to see someone try to adapt Warcraft 3's story into a movie. How do you make a movie about Arthas becoming the Lich King and Thrall sailing to Kalimdor to fight Nelves? Arthas's story is just Anakin's from ROTS (which granted, a lot of people seem to misinterpret). Thrall I don't really remember other than him meeting the Tauren and then eventually fighting demons.
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CJ posted:I want it to do well because i want to see someone try to adapt Warcraft 3's story into a movie. How do you make a movie about Arthas becoming the Lich King and Thrall sailing to Kalimdor to fight Nelves? I would have loved to see the Scourge in a movie, especially after seeing how Game of Thrones makes the effects really convincing for animated corpses running around in a frozen wasteland.
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So let's say this is a big enough success to launch the franchise How many movies do they do to cover the series before WoW stuff? And how many movies of major WoW lore make sense to make? Does each expansion get one film? What do they do
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computer parts posted:Arthas's story is just Anakin's from ROTS (which granted, a lot of people seem to misinterpret). Thrall I don't really remember other than him meeting the Tauren and then eventually fighting demons. Instead of doing Arthas' story, they should just get the rights to Moorcock's books and do a story about Elric of Melnibone since Arthas' story liberally borrows from that hardcore. Kelp Plankton posted:So let's say this is a big enough success to launch the franchise I'd say it'd take three movies to get to WoW. One movie for WC2, one movie for Reign of Chaos and one for the Frozen Throne. The first WoW movie could be about Ahn'Qiraj and the Old Gods or something.
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If you were legitimately trying to make a movie about stuff happening in WoW (rather than Warcraft, which actually has serviceable plots to steal and improve on) then Ahn'Qiraj is pretty much the worst thing you could choose, consisting of a giant desert filled with 10,000 year old insects and their lovecraftian god, as opposed to, y'know, an evil dragon, or a fire demon Like, you could actually pitch Nefarian to a movie studio as your movie's villain. He's manipulative, smug (  ), insults the heroes, and can be VOed by some suave British person. C'thun would begin with "well it's entirely CGI, consists mostly of a giant eyeball, and whispers madness to you over a long period of time" and then they'd politely ask you to leave
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As much as I hate when a single story is split into multiple movies, I think they'd have to do that with a hypothetical War 3 adaptation. Just too much happens to adapt it into a single movie without it being a confusing mess of rushed introductions and rushed resolutions. They'd also have to roll that book about Thrall into Warcraft 2 if they expect anyone to still give a poo poo about him when he shows up to lead. I kinda hope this film does spark a franchise, because I want to see how much of a clusterfuck it becomes.
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ungulateman posted:If you were legitimately trying to make a movie about stuff happening in WoW (rather than Warcraft, which actually has serviceable plots to steal and improve on) then Ahn'Qiraj is pretty much the worst thing you could choose, consisting of a giant desert filled with 10,000 year old insects and their lovecraftian god, as opposed to, y'know, an evil dragon, or a fire demon The Lady Prestor stuff would fit quite well
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Vanderdeath posted:I'd say it'd take three movies to get to WoW. One movie for WC2, one movie for Reign of Chaos and one for the Frozen Throne. The first WoW movie could be about Ahn'Qiraj and the Old Gods or something. For the life of me I cannot fathom how you'd fit Warcraft 3 into one movie. The Frozen Throne, maybe, but Warcraft 3? Also, considering the abyss that the lore plunged into since WoW got released, I'd really refrain from making WoW "plot" movies.
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Kelp Plankton posted:when's the Overwatch movie haha yase the british meme girl XD korean ice girl XD
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it is nice to see mad dog mccree in a game again.
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Batham posted:For the life of me I cannot fathom how you'd fit Warcraft 3 into one movie. The Frozen Throne, maybe, but Warcraft 3? Also, considering the abyss that the lore plunged into since WoW got released, I'd really refrain from making WoW "plot" movies. Honestly, me neither. It would work better as a miniseries but that will never happen in a trillion years. let's face it though, they'd conflate the Human and Undead campaign into one throughline, sprinkle in a B plot about the Orcs and Night Elves and then slam Archimonde in there somehow and baby you got yourself a stew going. Milky Moor posted:haha yase the british meme girl XD korean ice girl XD Tracer's a meme? also mei is chinese
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Just LOL if you think the end game here is to create a faithful cinematic record of the established WoW narrative rather than pump out a bunch of shiny flashy movies that appeal to the mass market and generate maximum profits. If they do adapt any of the stories they'll streamline the gently caress out of them until they're barely recognisable. Also if any of the characters become particularly popular they'll push them to the foreground and rewrite their stories to maximize sales of action figures.
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Surely the solution to Warcraft 3 as a movie is in fact two separate movies, release Warcraft 3: THE PRINCE'S QUEST about Arthas' fall, combining the human and undead campaigns with the finding of Frostmourne the middle point. Then release Warcraft 3: THE NEW WARCHIEF about Thrall's rise. This also essentially gives Jaina an entire movie if you combine the first half of Arthas' story and the second half of Thrall's, and gives a reason for people to care about Archimonde as a villain, the first movie builds him up with his destruction of Dalaran, make summoning him an integral part of it instead of the finishing blow, and then you get the triumph of protecting the world tree from him at the end of the second movie. If they can hide what the titles actually mean in the advertisement by focusing on specific parts of the movie, like Arthas before he falls and Grom Hellscream being a fuckass and drinking the demon blood they can even give people who don't know what's going on with Warcraft 3 an interesting surprise.
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dog days are over posted:I really don't see them making more of these unless it does gangbusters in America. If the movie completely bombs in the US but makes half a billion in China then who knows, they might just sub in a bunch of Chinese actors and pump out a bunch of sequels for that market. There's already a few US studios pumping out animated feature films for the Chinese market and the Warcraft movie is mostly CGI anyway so it wouldn't be a huge leap.
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