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Rashford is really not that baffling an inclusion, hes young but he's come up with important goals in his brief senior career and actually seems to have a bit of drive and determination about him, he's also hardly going to play but when Sturridge eventually breaks in training another backup is important considering it looks like as many strikers on the pitch as possible seems to be the name of the game. Wilshere on the other hand is likely going to be the first name on the teamsheet, and will be seen misplacing passes, spending 10 minutes on the floor every time his paper mache ankles are tapped by the smallest breeze, or arguing with referees. Imagine being Drinkwater and playing nearly every game in a title winning side, being key to their success and being further down the pecking order than that guy who had a good game against Barcelona 5 years ago, and has done absolutely nothing of note since. Stones is also loving abysmal, it makes me wonder if we're so conditioned to shite defending in England that we have forgotten what a real defender looks like. Hes calamitous, brainless, and has every possible defending instinct that he might have ever had in his body taught out of him by Martinez.
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May 31, 2016 14:37
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peanut- posted:Having a horribly out of form Sterling as the only winger in the squad also seems a little bit mental.
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May 31, 2016 14:46
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It's coming home. I wish Wilshere was staying home.
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May 31, 2016 14:47
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/31/heather-rabbatts-football-association-greg-dyke another FA executive might be quitting after failing to get any kind of reforms to happen
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May 31, 2016 14:53
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Ninpo posted:This will probably come back to bite me but Rashford is the first young English player I've seen play in some time that fits the phrase "if you're good enough you're old enough". What about Adam Johnson?
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May 31, 2016 15:04
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I think Wilshere will have a good tournament. Don't really get the hate, I wish we had a player like him in the Swiss team. Drinkwater should absolutely be going, though.
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May 31, 2016 15:20
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Drinkwater not going is really frustrating, he links up so well with Vardy and has had a phenomenal season... *sigh* oh well. time to update the OP.
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May 31, 2016 15:28
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Andre Le Fuckface posted:https://twitter.com/England/status/737629403195265024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw lol
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May 31, 2016 15:40
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Wengy posted:I think Wilshere will have a good tournament. Don't really get the hate He's a permacrock coming back from injury and three games in a fortnight is probably going to kill his ankles, there is no-one else in the England team that can complement the style of play he excels at with the possible exception of Rooney, asking him to do tippy tappy Arsenal triangles with two direct strikers like Vardy and Kane is pointless, his other skills as a midfielder are mediocre and easily surpassed by El Choclo Jimmy Milner, and he is a midget oval office who thinks hes hard because he's had security shielding him from any reprisal from the age of 13 or so. This is why I, forums poster Eau de Macgowan, am mad as heck that Wilshere is going ahead of Danny Drinkwater. Also Ross loving Barkley.
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May 31, 2016 15:42
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Wengy posted:Don't really get the hate He hasn't shown he's even good even when he played, but more importantly, he hasn't played. He doesn't deserve it.
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May 31, 2016 15:46
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Whose spot did Rashford get?
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May 31, 2016 15:49
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Townsend who was the only other winger in the squad
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May 31, 2016 15:50
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Eau de MacGowan posted:He's a permacrock coming back from injury and three games in a fortnight is probably going to kill his ankles, there is no-one else in the England team that can complement the style of play he excels at with the possible exception of Rooney, asking him to do tippy tappy Arsenal triangles with two direct strikers like Vardy and Kane is pointless, his other skills as a midfielder are mediocre and easily surpassed by El Choclo Jimmy Milner, and he is a midget oval office who thinks hes hard because he's had security shielding him from any reprisal from the age of 13 or so. This is why I, forums poster Eau de Macgowan, am mad as heck that Wilshere is going ahead of Danny Drinkwater. Don't get me wrong, Wilshere's inclusion is hard to justify, but one can at least make the case that his skillset is quite unique among the England setup; he's not just a very good "tippy tappy" passer, but also knows how to dribble and retain the ball. And I'm sure Vardy would like to latch onto a nice defence-splitting ball. I also think it's disingenous to assume he's going "ahead of Drinkwater", they're not comparable players. If anything, it's Henderson who's being preferred to Drinkwater, and there's no justification for that at all. I also have no idea what Barkley is doing in there. Quote this post when Wilshere breaks his ankle in the first game.
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May 31, 2016 15:50
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Is Shawcross injured? I'd have taken him instead of Stones.
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May 31, 2016 16:05
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england got destroyed by ibrahimovic last time he played so hodgson hasn't picked him since
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May 31, 2016 16:07
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Wilshere and Drinkwater aren't that similar, if anything Drinkwater should have been taken in place of Jordan "Hendo" "Garbageman" Henderson. While I don't like Wilshere and it is pretty lame that he can just waltz into the England squad like this, he is still actually a better player than the other midfielders available
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May 31, 2016 16:08
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Having a good lol at Wilshere being in the squad
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May 31, 2016 16:14
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Nothing wrong with sending Rashford IMO, but there are 4-5 others who are at least questionable.
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May 31, 2016 16:15
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Xabi posted:Nothing wrong with sending Rashford IMO, but there are 4-5 others who are at least questionable. I think picking Rashford off the back of scoring a handful of tap-ins for Man U is fairly questionable, but I don't dislike the kid.
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May 31, 2016 16:48
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Drinkwater was very very average in each of the England games he's played (bordering on anonymous for much of Australia game). Wilshere and Henderson have had many years of playing in the England team (admittedly Henderson hasn't exactly lit the world on fire and Wilshere is permacrocked) - Hodgson is depending on players he knows in key areas. I think the player most unfortunate to miss out is Townsend, who did show something different against Australia in that he actually attacked people. He probably only missed out because Sturridge passed his fitness test. Barkley is a bit lucky to go, but apart from that I think everyone else was always on the plane.
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May 31, 2016 16:48
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Dier, Alli, Drinkwater and Wilshire would have been a loving good midfield, but Roy would have to drop Rooney to play Kane and Vardy.
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May 31, 2016 16:48
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Paperhouse posted:Wilshere and Drinkwater aren't that similar, if anything Drinkwater should have been taken in place of Jordan "Hendo" "Garbageman" Henderson. While I don't like Wilshere and it is pretty lame that he can just waltz into the England squad like this, he is still actually a better player than the other midfielders available Yeah that's how I feel. Henderson was definately chosen over Drinkwater, Wilshere had nothing to do with that choice. There's still massive questions to be asked of taking players who have been injured all season. But it also could be this: 
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May 31, 2016 17:06
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Wilshere is not good at football so maybe he shouldn't be in the England squad.
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May 31, 2016 17:26
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36420669 Buhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 
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May 31, 2016 17:38
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CyberPingu posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36420669 this is in no way surprising
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May 31, 2016 17:40
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EvilHawk posted:Drinkwater was very very average in each of the England games he's played (bordering on anonymous for much of Australia game). the job of a manager is to make the best of what he's got and the best of what he's got is drinkwater banging long balls to vardy and 9 other wastrels. Given England have had this problem for decades I don't really think it's Hodgson's fault
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May 31, 2016 17:45
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CyberPingu posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36420669 "Striker Marcus Rashford, 18, is 93rd on the list, four places above Manchester United team-mate and England captain Wayne Rooney."
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May 31, 2016 17:49
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JFairfax posted:"Striker Marcus Rashford, 18, is 93rd on the list, four places above Manchester United team-mate and England captain Wayne Rooney." lmao
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May 31, 2016 17:51
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Without Drinkwater, who's gonna ping long balls to Vardy now?
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May 31, 2016 18:19
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Almost surprised Woy couldnt find reason to drop Vardy. Can't be having these working class footballers besmirch the 3 lions 
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May 31, 2016 18:32
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cant wait for england to implode and woy to get fired
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May 31, 2016 18:38
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MoPZiG posted:Almost surprised Woy couldnt find reason to drop Vardy. Can't be having these working class footballers besmirch the 3 lions What's Rooney then? Also its funny that back in the day England fans would've killed for a manager that knew how to play a 4-3-3 and now all they want is a 4-4-2.
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May 31, 2016 18:53
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DOOP posted:Without Drinkwater, who's gonna ping long balls to Vardy now? Vardy won't be playing either, so nobody until Leicesters next Thai tour.
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May 31, 2016 19:20
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he said ping long balls, not ping pong balls!!!
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May 31, 2016 19:22
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Wow
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May 31, 2016 19:31
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JFairfax posted:he said ping long balls, not ping pong balls!!!
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May 31, 2016 19:33
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JFairfax posted:he said ping long balls, not ping pong balls!!! thanks for explaining the joke
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May 31, 2016 19:36
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glad to be of help Jose
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I'm glad we decided to take a 4th choice centre forward who can't play out wide just in case. Big club mentality alive and well.
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