SwissArmyDruid posted:

Is that thing saying that the Titan line is no more?

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The most important news of the day: AIDA64 confirms GP102 silicon. This is probably the Big Pascal for gamers, that was being speculated ever since GP100 came out.

Judging from the released list GP100 will be computing oriented GPU (as most parts are tagged as GL). Meanwhile GP102 has more non-GL parts (so presumably those are GeForce devices). However both GPUs might be available in GeForce series, because GP100 also has three non-GL parts.

Moving on to lower end parts, we have GP106, the new GPU that was showcased in Drive PX 2 module. We also have GP107 and GP108, where the latter will probably only be offered in form of mobile graphics cards.

Paul MaudDib posted:

Apparently, which is why it seems like total bullshit to me. The AIDA64 people have a complete list of device IDs and it includes GP102 parts, and what would that be if not a Titan/1080 Ti?

http://videocardz.com/60289/breaking-news-aida64-developers-confirm-pascal-gp102-gp106-gp107-and-gp108

Also, the Inno3D list doesn't even include the GTX 1070 which has been publically confirmed/reviewed/launch date set, sooooo

fozzy fosbourne posted:

Has anyone talked about 1.25voltgate yet?

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4lwysn/gtx_1080_hard_limit_at_125_volts/

Seamonster posted:

How much is that beyond the normal operating voltage?

fozzy fosbourne posted:

I think the normal operating voltage is 1.08. Not sure why reddit is freaking out yet, other than THE MAN trying to control our volts

Seamonster posted:

He probably thinks everything works like Winbond BH5

gently caress i'm to recall that so quickly

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AMD Prices 3-D Tech to Spur Virtual Reality Market - New line of graphics hardware to be priced at $199
Advanced Micro Devices Inc. is angling to lower the cost of virtual reality, targeting the field with a new line of graphics hardware priced at $199—half or less the cost of comparable products.

AMD said the first chips based on its new Polaris design are expected to arrive in graphics cards for personal computers at the end of June. The company aims to help push the starting cost of PCs that can deliver VR experiences as low as...

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Advanced Micro Devices Inc. is angling to lower the cost of virtual reality, targeting the field with a new line of graphics hardware priced at $199—half or less the cost of comparable products.

AMD said the first chips based on its new Polaris design are expected to arrive in graphics cards for personal computers at the end of June. The company aims to help push the starting cost of PCs that can deliver VR experiences as low as $799 from above $1,000.

Consumers also face the cost of the latest generation of VR headsets—$599 for the Oculus Rift from Facebook Inc. ’s Oculus VR unit, for example, or $799 for HTC Corp. ’s Vive.

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But the need for a PC with an add-in card that includes a beefy 3-D graphics chip is another barrier that stands in the way of widespread adoption of VR. An online survey conducted in April by the Advanced Imaging Society found that 68% of respondents said VR equipment was too expensive.

“Less than 1% of PC users have systems that are capable of doing VR,” said Raja Koduri, senior vice president and chief architect of AMD’s Radeon technologies group. “The entry point is very, very high.”

AMD said its new Radeon RX cards, certified for use in VR by HTC and Oculus VR, deliver performance equivalent to that of $500 graphics cards used for VR.

Patrick Moorhead, an analyst with Moor Insights & Strategy briefed on AMD’s strategy, estimated that the current minimum price on cards comparable to AMD’s new models is $399. He said the $199 pricing comes as a surprise.

“It’s great for getting more people into VR,” said Kelt Reeves, president of Falcon Northwest Computer Systems Inc., a boutique maker of gaming PCs that serves the market.

AMD competes with Nvidia Corp. in the chips known as graphics processing units, or GPUs. Mercury Research estimates that Nvidia had 70.6% of shipments in the first quarter of 2016 to 29.4% for AMD, though the latter’s share is up three percentage points from the fourth quarter.

Standard practice in the GPU business has been to start new product lines with high-end cards that command hefty prices and profit margins. Mr. Koduri said AMD hoped that breaking from tradition by starting with a lower-cost model could have a bigger impact. For one thing, he said, computer retailers prefer to stock machines for less than $999.

Nvidia on May 7 introduced a new flagship model called the GTX 1080 at a $599 price tag that is expected to succeed a $1,000 model called the Titan X. Nvidia also introduced a $379 model called the GTX 1070, which is likely to be seen as competition to the new AMD model.

“It’s up to Nvidia to come up with a lower-priced card,” Mr. Moorhead said.

An Nvidia spokesman had no immediate comment.

AMD, based in Sunnyvale, Calif., plans to formally announce the new chips early Wednesday at the Computex trade show in Taiwan.

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

ijyt posted:

With Nvidia's latest pricing scheme and the EU gouging I'm sure the 1080 will be the last GPU I'll be able to afford to buy outright for a good while.

xthetenth posted:

If that's the case you'd probably be best off stepping down the performance scale and keep buying reasonably frequently. Don't just buy the biggest and best and let it turn into an obsolescent relic in your case.

Top end gpu pricing is dead nasty though, I don't even know if my ludicrous attraction to the Fury X cooler is going to get be to buy a big Vega.

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

WSJ article

fletcher posted:

The new 1080's will still support G-Sync right? Do we know when the third party offerings will be on Amazon, Newegg, etc?

sauer kraut posted:

Of course. Custom GTX 1080 shipments are expected around June 16./17. in German shops.

fozzy fosbourne posted:

Has anyone talked about 1.25voltgate yet?

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4lwysn/gtx_1080_hard_limit_at_125_volts/

movax posted:

Are these idiots seriously angry that a 16nm-process has a relatively low maximum voltage? It's not nvidia limiting guys, it's loving semiconductor physics

Go ahead and crack your gate oxide / enjoy electromigration for your ~~sick OC gainz~~. The PMICs on the board are probably stuck at 1.25V for good reason (like maybe it's the limit of whatever IC they're using).

Increasing operating voltage buys you margin on setup and hold times which in turn lets you crank the clock frequency beyond the validated numbers for timing margin at the expense of chucking out more heat.

Also signed up for auto-notify on the 1080 FTW because man I want to play my games not bottlenecked by a 2GB GTX 670 @ 1600p.

fozzy fosbourne posted:

They are temporarily out of stock on amazon but you can put in a order: http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-GAMING-Graphics-08G-P4-6286-KR/dp/B01GAI64GO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464737580&sr=8-1&keywords=1080+ftw

movax posted:

In a completely unrelated question, does newegg charge sales tax in WA?

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Within the United States, Newegg.com charges sales tax on orders shipping to California, Indiana, New Jersey and Tennessee only.

Ak Gara posted:

About die shrink, is it true that due to some surface area square law thing, the smaller you go the harder it is to cool due to smaller heatsink contact patch?

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

wsj sez 480 = $200

fozzy fosbourne posted:

Negative! http://kb.newegg.com/faq/article/1360

PC LOAD LETTER posted:

Depends on transistor and power density too but yea its true to an extent. I don't think its a huge problem though with the modern development of vapor chambers and heat pipes.

That is muuuch better pricing then I expected. If the performance is on par with the leaked benches they'll sell heaps of em'. Probably won't make too much per card but it'll probably still be an improvement financially over the current situation.

repiv posted:

For comparisons sake the 390 is 5.1 TF and 390X is 5.9 TF.

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Is there *anything* that we can infer about Crossfire scaling on the new poo poo? Like, I want to see if the math pans out that for the cost of a single 1080, you could Crossfire a pair of these $199 cards and get better performance.

Paul MaudDib posted:

It's probably somewhere in between the 1070 and 1080, not faster than the 1080. And yeah, Crossfire/SLI of midrange cards is typically better value but then you have to put up with the problems native to Crossfire/SLI.

Josh Lyman posted:

Rumors are AMD is targeting $199 cards and ceding the high end to Nvidia?