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Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

anime was right posted:

pharah should have more and cooler aerial mobility imo

Especially if they're gonna buff D.Va because Pharah's like the one thing she's okay against

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Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug
So I really like Winston, but I'm so bad at utilizing his ult. Punching people 18 feet is handy but due to it's melee range it can still be quite awkward trying to clear people off a point or cart, even if I've generally succeeded at it by virtue of pubbies dropping everything to chase me around like Scooby Doo.

It was also super satisfying to see a card for shield damage absorbed on a team with a straight up good murder machine Zarya (their Potg involved lasering Phara out of the Sky with pinpoint accuracy).

Can his shield block, or at least mitigate a High Noon? It came to mind after I managed to fry a McRee to death while he was lining up his ult, about how funny it would be if dropping a bubble over him would have ruined it. But, probably wouldn't have helped.

I do get reminded just how much a good reaper loving HURTS playing him though. Fortunately, most of them will gently caress off at half health in ghost mode. By comparison in shotgun land, it seems to take a LOT of effort for a Diva to kill me before I fry them and their pilot unless they open up on me first :v: To be fair I'm utilizing my shields when this happens, but still, Dva is the only tank I figure "Yeah, I can probably kill that myself" as Winston.

But the real shitshows are all the Pharas I manage to barely tickle to death while they are flying. "Come on, almost. Almost... *leaps vertically* YES! Thank you for completely ignoring me assuming "Winston will NEVER kill me up here"

Jastiger posted:

Pharah's rockets should be buffed in damage for direct hits.
While I can see the appeal of this, with such wild character size discrepencies this would mostly poo poo on tanks while leaving much less frequent "skill shot" moments to compensate. And direct hits already hurt plenty if you actually nail them (Hello, other Phara! I'm going to make up for my poo poo aim by waiting for your fuel to waver, aaaand *blam* Hah!)

nah thanks
Jun 18, 2004

Take me out.
Junkrat totally owns, I can't believe I ignored his character so far. What a completely fun character (plus, grenade jumps!).

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013
Isn't Winston's ult basically a "Get off my lawn" CC sort of thing? If you're only knocking a few people away from the point but also scare off the entire rest of the team, you've done a good job and your team should capitalize on that. The other tank ults (Roadhog and D.Va, really) are all about clearing the point, with dealing damage/killing fools secondary.

Also how does Winston's shield actually work? I haven't played him at all, but every time one of them jumps towards me and drops a shield, my reaction is to just... walk inside the shield and keep shooting. I usually end up killing Winston unless he runs away.
Or if I'm far away, I'll shoot the shield a couple times and it'll go down, and then I'll start to shooting him instead.

Stevefin
Sep 30, 2013

So sounds like Mccree and DVa will be getting their nerfs and buffs accordingly soon, and freindly Reaper will become team colour freindly

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

squidgee posted:

Junkrat totally owns, I can't believe I ignored his character so far. What a completely fun character (plus, grenade jumps!).

Yeah he's the best character because he's good at everything and easy to use.

Solumin posted:

Also how does Winston's shield actually work? I haven't played him at all, but every time one of them jumps towards me and drops a shield, my reaction is to just... walk inside the shield and keep shooting. I usually end up killing Winston unless he runs away.
Or if I'm far away, I'll shoot the shield a couple times and it'll go down, and then I'll start to shooting him instead.

The good Winston backs up when you walk inside his shield and zaps you from outside of it. It's basically a fixed (weaker) Rein shield for him/his teammates to use as cover, whether inside or outside of it.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Section Z posted:


While I can see the appeal of this, with such wild character size discrepencies this would mostly poo poo on tanks while leaving much less frequent "skill shot" moments to compensate. And direct hits already hurt plenty if you actually nail them (Hello, other Phara! I'm going to make up for my poo poo aim by waiting for your fuel to waver, aaaand *blam* Hah!)

Mainly my issue is with Roadhogg. He's just too meaty that he can shrug off multiple rockets or straight up heal through them. gently caress that guy.

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



Solumin posted:

Also how does Winston's shield actually work? I haven't played him at all, but every time one of them jumps towards me and drops a shield, my reaction is to just... walk inside the shield and keep shooting. I usually end up killing Winston unless he runs away.
Or if I'm far away, I'll shoot the shield a couple times and it'll go down, and then I'll start to shooting him instead.

The shield is a barrier that behaves exactly the same as Reinhardt's, except that it's a hollow bubble with 600 HP and a limited duration.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Solumin posted:

Isn't Winston's ult basically a "Get off my lawn" CC sort of thing? If you're only knocking a few people away from the point but also scare off the entire rest of the team, you've done a good job and your team should capitalize on that. The other tank ults (Roadhog and D.Va, really) are all about clearing the point, with dealing damage/killing fools secondary.

Also how does Winston's shield actually work? I haven't played him at all, but every time one of them jumps towards me and drops a shield, my reaction is to just... walk inside the shield and keep shooting. I usually end up killing Winston unless he runs away.
Or if I'm far away, I'll shoot the shield a couple times and it'll go down, and then I'll start to shooting him instead.

it doesnt block a lot of damage. wintson should stay in the bubble if you're outside and outside the bubble if you're in. it's good for protecting squishy targets and dealing with characters like genji/widow up close so they can do basically zero damage to you while you jump on them.

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013

Jastiger posted:

Mainly my issue is with Roadhogg. He's just too meaty that he can shrug off multiple rockets or straight up heal through them. gently caress that guy.

Yes, it should be hard to kill a tank all by yourself. This is working as intended.

Vermain posted:

The shield is a barrier that behaves exactly the same as Reinhardt's, except that it's a hollow bubble with 600 HP and a limited duration.

OK, cool. So his teammates can shoot through it but I can't.

Alleric
Dec 10, 2002

Rambly Bastard...
Ok, I've fumbled around in pub quick matches to get used to various things enough. Name added to the spreadsheet and I'm usually on after 8pm MST most nights. Initially I planned on maining Mercy, but if anything the game teaches quickly: adapt. I don't main anyone anymore... but I do find myself playing a shitload of Rein (cap, escort), Winston (cap, defense), Junkrat (everywhere) to get stuff done when the pub army of soloists refuse to work the map.

Abroham Lincoln
Sep 19, 2011

Note to self: This one's the good one



Solumin posted:

Isn't Winston's ult basically a "Get off my lawn" CC sort of thing? If you're only knocking a few people away from the point but also scare off the entire rest of the team, you've done a good job and your team should capitalize on that. The other tank ults (Roadhog and D.Va, really) are all about clearing the point, with dealing damage/killing fools secondary.

Also how does Winston's shield actually work? I haven't played him at all, but every time one of them jumps towards me and drops a shield, my reaction is to just... walk inside the shield and keep shooting. I usually end up killing Winston unless he runs away.
Or if I'm far away, I'll shoot the shield a couple times and it'll go down, and then I'll start to shooting him instead.

Winston's ult is also technically a huge heal since it sets you to 1000 health. So you can can from 1hp to 1000 and that's pretty rad.

The shield is like Reinhardt's and just blocks everything until it takes a certain amount of damage. If the Winston is an enemy, your shots from the outside can't go in, and your shots inside can't go out, but you can move through it freely. Teammates shoot and pass through it like normal. The damage absorption on it is pretty low, but it's a bit more versatile in how you can use it than Reinhardt's is. The generator itself is a physical object, so you can drop it and trap enemies mid-leap, keep it mobile on the payload, etc.

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013

Abroham Lincoln posted:

Winston's ult is also technically a huge heal since it sets you to 1000 health. So you can can from 1hp to 1000 and that's pretty rad.

The shield is like Reinhardt's and just blocks everything until it takes a certain amount of damage. If the Winston is an enemy, your shots from the outside can't go in, and your shots inside can't go out, but you can move through it freely. Teammates shoot and pass through it like normal. The damage absorption on it is pretty low, but it's a bit more versatile in how you can use it than Reinhardt's is. The generator itself is a physical object, so you can drop it and trap enemies mid-leap, keep it mobile on the payload, etc.

Awesome, thank you and everyone else you explained it. I thought that was the case but wasn't sure. Can enemies destroy the shield generator like they can destroy Junkrat's traps?

Cake Smashing Boob
Nov 5, 2008

I support black genocide
Hanzo is fun and cool but he's got the same problems as Bastion in that Widow does everything he does better and is more mobile to boot.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Winston is the last hero I have to "figure out" and I have no idea why. He seems cool and I can't aim.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Winston is the last hero I have to "figure out" and I have no idea why. He seems cool and I can't aim.

you dont aim with winston

u just kick sand in their face

Too Shy Guy
Jun 14, 2003


I have destroyed more of your kind than I can count.



Oh yeah, I took a look a the spreadsheet and added myself but holy gently caress there's a lot of you on there. Anyone who plays late night on Pacific time and wants a support buddy, feel free to add Audish#1234.

Yes that is my actual battletag.

No it is not the combination on my luggage.

Abroham Lincoln
Sep 19, 2011

Note to self: This one's the good one



Solumin posted:

Awesome, thank you and everyone else you explained it. I thought that was the case but wasn't sure. Can enemies destroy the shield generator like they can destroy Junkrat's traps?

I've honestly never tried but I'm pretty sure you can't.

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



You cannot destroy the generator, no. The only way to make the barrier disappear prematurely is to deplete its 600 HP.

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene
can you put the generator on a soccer ball

Propitious Jerk
Sep 13, 2010
I feel like a substantial number of people don't know that you can shoot through allied shields. Many of the times I run Reinhardt and my teammates will duck in and out of my shield or strafe to the side of it to take pot shots at the enemy sniper/turret and get railed.

objects in mirror
Apr 9, 2016

by Shine
I like playing with goons but I don't like making goons lose. :(

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Winston is the last hero I have to "figure out" and I have no idea why. He seems cool and I can't aim.

Winston is fun if you're ever in a mood where you can't be bothered to aim bullets, but want to jump on squishies like a madman and melt them just by looking in their direction.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Solumin posted:

Yes, it should be hard to kill a tank all by yourself. This is working as intended.


Well when Jastiger shoots, they should loving die.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
Oh hey, someone took my advice from a while back and made a scrubquotes for Overwatch

https://twitter.com/ScrubQuotesX/status/735374973628522496

https://twitter.com/ScrubQuotesX/status/737147628819873792

https://twitter.com/ScrubQuotesX/status/736213590298890241

creatine
Jan 27, 2012




I loved huntsman sniper in TF2, and I love hanzo

https://gfycat.com/SimplisticFatalAntlion

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

when sfv is so bad you have to rely on overwatch for fg content

Queen-Of-Hearts
Mar 17, 2009

"I want to break your heart💔 and give you mine🫀"




Jastiger posted:

Well when Jastiger shoots, they should loving die.

Dunno, duder. Would be pretty op if you could score kill shots with ease and still shrug off head shots from the mods.

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

What the gently caress happened to backfill xp

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

anime was right posted:

when sfv is so bad you have to rely on overwatch for fg content

dude the fgc is going loving hamburgers for overwatch for some reason

Turtle Sandbox
Dec 31, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Today when attack anubis rotated half my group dropped and 7 more dodged it. I cant wait till everyone starts dodging more maps.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Countblanc posted:

dude the fgc is going loving hamburgers for overwatch for some reason

its cuz theres nothing to play besides xrd

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Countblanc posted:

dude the fgc is going loving hamburgers for overwatch for some reason

It's the butts.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

anime was right posted:

its cuz theres nothing to play besides xrd

im slowly infecting the michigan scene with the rivals of aether virus but yeah true

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Six-Of-Hearts posted:

Dunno, duder. Would be pretty op if you could score kill shots with ease and still shrug off head shots from the mods.

Thats how it is right now.

As for Reinhard, and I don't know if there is a way to fix it, it always bugged me that you could start the swing facing one direction, and rotate in a circle and essentially have a full hammer swing for 360 degrees. I just do that and everyone around me dies because I guess momentum isn't a thing.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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Pumpy Dumper posted:

I loved huntsman sniper in TF2, and I love hanzo

https://gfycat.com/SimplisticFatalAntlion

I loved Huntsmanning in TF2. Less sniping and more just chunking arrows in the general vicinity of the payload and getting kills and ragetells in return as I pin corpses to the terrain. I should probably actually try out Hanzo because of that...but it's hard not to just play someone else when someone else is already Mr. Ronin and/or there's a Widowmaker on the team.

Also I far prefer Mei for her ability to just control the map with her walls and waste 3 second of the enemy team's time by becoming immortal on the point.

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013

Jastiger posted:

Well when Jastiger shoots, they should loving die.

Then play McCree :haw:

Mr. Meagles
Apr 30, 2004

Out here, everything hurts


What does it mean when someone has a crested portrait on the team screen? Is that when you get past level 100 or whatever and 'prestige'?

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
You get lots of portrait upgrades as you level

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Mr. Meagles
Apr 30, 2004

Out here, everything hurts


goodness gracious

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