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Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Who What Now posted:

Zoos are states?

We've spent 400 pages discussing abstract political philosophy, and you still don't know about the State of Nature?

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Who What Now posted:

Zoos are states?

Solid, liquid, gas, or plasma?

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

IT IS HARAAM TO SEND SMILEY FACES THROUGH THE INTERNET

Who What Now posted:

Zoos are states?

Who else built the walls that imprisoned the gorilla, supplied the electricity that lit the scene of the crime? Who else educated the murderer, built the roads they traveled on, supplied the food and water that sated them, but not enough, leaving only the blood of the state's prisoner to quench them?

Stinky_Pete
Aug 16, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear
Lipstick Apathy
is it joke?

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Triglav posted:

Who else built the walls that imprisoned the gorilla, supplied the electricity that lit the scene of the crime? Who else educated the murderer, built the roads they traveled on, supplied the food and water that sated them, but not enough, leaving only the blood of the state's prisoner to quench them?

:capitalism:

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

that was a FREE GORILLA ON THE LAND and it was unreasonable to expect him to listen to the POLICE STATE that we are all slaves under

As a FREE MAN ON THE LAND myself I would also maul a child that accidentally wandered into my cage, I take this as an inalienable right and I have a number of Hayek quotes proving it so:

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Tesseraction posted:

Yeah he has a very libertarian approach to how words work. I guess he means "sounds like" since it's pronounced kwee and queer is pronounced kweer but who fuckin' knows with these doofuses.

The socialists have engineered a semantic revolution in converting the meaning of terms into their opposite.

In the vocabulary of their “Newspeak,” as George Orwell called it, there is a term “the one-party principle.” Now etymologically party is derived from the noun part. The brotherless part is no longer different from its antonym, the whole; it is identical with it. A brotherless party is not a party, and the one party principle is in fact a no-party principle. It is a suppression of any kind of opposition. Freedom implies the right to choose between assent and dissent. But in Newspeak it means the duty to assent unconditionally and strict interdiction of dissent. This reversal of the traditional connotation of all words of the political terminology is not merely a peculiarity of the language of the Russian Communists and their Fascist and Nazi disciples. The social order that in abolishing private property deprives the consumers of their autonomy and independence, and thereby subjects every man to the arbitrary discretion of the central planning board, could not win the support of the masses if they were not to camouflage its main character. The socialists would have never duped the voters if they had openly told them that their ultimate end is to cast them into bondage. For exoteric use they were forced to pay lip-service to the traditional appreciation of liberty.

Stinky_Pete
Aug 16, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear
Lipstick Apathy

mises posted:

The admirers of the Soviet system tell us again and again that freedom is not the supreme good. It is “not worth having,” if it implies poverty.

"Poverty is freedom" -Mises

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

Goon Danton posted:

the language of the Russian Communists and their Fascist and Nazi disciples.

:psyboom:

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

"Arbeit macht frei" -the guy decrying the Nazis, apparently.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Who What Now posted:

Zoos are states?

No, states are zoos.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Tesseraction posted:

"Arbeit macht frei" -the guy decrying the Nazis, apparently.

Look, if the proles don't have the freedom to work themselves to death and the Captains of Industry don't have the freedom to steal the fruits of the aforementioned proles' labour we're basically living in Communaziland. And that's bad, because those are scary words.

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

IT IS HARAAM TO SEND SMILEY FACES THROUGH THE INTERNET
I don't know, guys. Hobos go on about freedom a lot.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Triglav posted:

I don't know, guys. Hobos go on about freedom a lot.

Do you consider yourself more a Goku or a Piccolo?

eNeMeE
Nov 26, 2012
The gorilla had no concept of property and so deserved to be used for the profit of better informed primates.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

CommieGIR posted:

Solid, liquid, gas, or plasma?

With libertarians, bose-einsteinian condensate.

Because, y'know, it's dense.

Rhjamiz
Oct 28, 2007

Who What Now posted:

Zoos are states?

Ha, well, in fairness, many Zoos are City or State funded, and the employees are government employees.

eNeMeE
Nov 26, 2012

Rhjamiz posted:

in fairness

Whoa whoa, let's not do anything we'll all regret.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Zoos also frequently practice segregation, another plus in the libertopian dream

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Goon Danton posted:

the language of the Russian Communists and their Fascist and Nazi disciples.

Just to reiterate, the guy who wrote that was an economic advisor to Engelbert Dollfuss.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

This thread has had hundreds of new posts since I last saw it over a month ago. Please tell me this is due to a new challenger appearing and not some random goon playing devil's advocate on the benefits of repealing the Civil Rights Act.

Polygynous
Dec 13, 2006
welp

Mr Interweb posted:

This thread has had hundreds of new posts since I last saw it over a month ago. Please tell me this is due to a new challenger appearing and not some random goon playing devil's advocate on the benefits of repealing the Civil Rights Act.

If you missed it, half or so probably happened since jrod got permabanned. Specifically, banned for pulling his usual shtick in the climate change thread, and then permabanned for threatening chargeback fraud.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

spoon0042 posted:

If you missed it, half or so probably happened since jrod got permabanned. Specifically, banned for pulling his usual shtick in the climate change thread, and then permabanned for threatening chargeback fraud.

:O

Good night, sweet prince. :(

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
does anyone know what the name jrodefeld is supposed to be a reference to (if anything) in the first place.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


spoon0042 posted:

If you missed it, half or so probably happened since jrod got permabanned. Specifically, banned for pulling his usual shtick in the climate change thread, and then permabanned for threatening chargeback fraud.

Don't worry, the market will punish fraud. In libertopia we will all be honest, I assure you.

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

IT IS HARAAM TO SEND SMILEY FACES THROUGH THE INTERNET

paragon1 posted:

does anyone know what the name jrodefeld is supposed to be a reference to (if anything) in the first place.

Looks like the abbreviated Social Serfdom contract name of a free man on the land, libertarianism's greatest contemporary thinker.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

I was going through jrod's rap sheet, and his last probation thanks to Vitalsigns really stood out to me.

I know jrod has argued in the past about being against the CRA, and although it's a totally racist thing to do, I can sorta, kinda understand how someone could, if they squint their eyes real hard, see that this wouldn't necessarily be a racist policy, and that they were just being very ideologically pure.

But then you have stuff like Vitalsigns post, where our not-a-racist-at-all libertarian hero, suddenly wonders if it really is such a bad thing to use the possibility of a black person smoking weed as a legitimate defense to murder them.

I mean, this ain't new. Like most of us here, I noticed this sort of thing years ago. But it really does make all the stats showing that libertarians are essentially Republicans too embarrassed to identify themselves as such, a lot less surprising.

archangelwar
Oct 28, 2004

Teaching Moments

paragon1 posted:

does anyone know what the name jrodefeld is supposed to be a reference to (if anything) in the first place.

It is his actual name, forgot what the j stands for. He signs up for forums all over the Internet with his real name and evangelizes. He is totally dedicated to the cause.

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

paragon1 posted:

does anyone know what the name jrodefeld is supposed to be a reference to (if anything) in the first place.

It's just an abbreviation of his name. The level of creativity is about what you'd expect from a libertarian.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



archangelwar posted:

It is his actual name, forgot what the j stands for. He signs up for forums all over the Internet with his real name and evangelizes. He is totally dedicated to the cause.
For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is jrodefeld? This is jrodefeld speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are perishing-you who dread knowledge-I am the man who will now tell you." The chief engineer was the only one able to move; he ran to a television set and struggled frantically with its dials. But the screen remained empty; the speaker had not chosen to be seen. Only his voice filled the airways of the country-of the world, thought the chief engineer-sounding as if he were speaking here, in this room, not to a group, but to one man; it was not the tone of addressing a meeting, but the tone of addressing a melonfucker.

Grognan
Jan 23, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
:five:

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Not to continue speaking ill of the dead, but hooooooly poo poo.

jrodefield posted:

Here is the new top 10 from the Heritage Institute. No UAE or Qatar in the top 10 so maybe you'll look at the substance of the ranking this time.


1. Hong Kong

2. Singapore

3. New Zealand

4. Switzerland

5. Australia

6. Canada

7. Chile

8. Ireland

9. Estonia

10. United Kingdom

This is probably the most :psyboom: thing I've ever witnessed from jrod. This is "get your government hands off my medicare!" territory.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

archangelwar posted:

It is his actual name, forgot what the j stands for. He signs up for forums all over the Internet with his real name and evangelizes. He is totally dedicated to the cause.

Oh, so he's a marginally more competent brian_boyko. :v:

Who has also lost faith in America.

I'm still bitter about SedanChair blowing the game too early on that one.

Corvinus
Aug 21, 2006
I'm going with real name. This Jacob Rodefeld is directly quoting a Caros post.

It's trivial to find other forums where he posts blue-ray related stuff, a youtube account with blue-ray uploads, and other information. A melonfucker at his age still mooching off his parents, a shameful melonfucker.

Corvinus fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Jun 3, 2016

Corvinus
Aug 21, 2006
My god, I know why J-Ro believes anti-vaccine and homeopathy quackery.

Ayurveda.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK
I no-joke read about 110 pages of this thread before getting the end spoiled because I clicked his permaban entry in the leper's colon, and I lost the will to read the remaining however-many hundred pages remained. So I missed the melon-loving reference. Could someone please either explain or link it for me?

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
He hosed a melon.

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

Weatherman posted:

So I missed the melon-loving reference. Could someone please either explain or link it for me?

Basically, someone offhandedly accused him of loving a watermelon, and he got all offended in a way that didn't actually say he didn't gently caress a watermelon. Stuff escalated from there.

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Corvinus posted:

I'm going with real name. This :mad: is directly quoting a Caros post.

It's trivial to find other forums where he posts blue-ray related stuff, a youtube account with blue-ray uploads, and other information. A melonfucker at his age still mooching off his parents, a shameful melonfucker.

This is going too far I think.

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mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

BreakAtmo posted:

It's just an abbreviation of his name. The level of creativity is about what you'd expect from a libertarian.

Considering the fictional scenarios and worlds most libertarians spout to justify a lot of their crap, they can be surprisingly creative.

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