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Hashtag Banterzone posted:manager that knew how to play a 4-3-3 Not sure how Hodgson qualifies as this
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Blasmeister posted:I'm glad we decided to take a 4th choice centre forward who can't play out wide just in case. Big club mentality alive and well. England are so bad I'm not even sure who you're referring to.
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May 31, 2016 19:46
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I'm livid that Wilshire made the 23 after doing gently caress all all season and being garbage when he does get a game. Thankfully it won't matter since It's coming home.
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May 31, 2016 20:10
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remember when england had a great defense and no good strikers. can't wait to watch england score all the goals
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May 31, 2016 22:02
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Milner has been really good this year (after being shite for the first half of the season) and I'd have him starting over Wilshere and Henderson.
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May 31, 2016 22:29
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Spin it any way you like but it's a total loving disgrace that a title-winning ever-present rock was dropped for that bunch of wastemen. Hodgson is an old senile retard.
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May 31, 2016 22:44
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Lol Spack Failqueer in the squad after playing 1 match all season. Disgrace. Awful player
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Jun 1, 2016 06:40
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African AIDS cum posted:Spack Failqueer
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Jun 1, 2016 06:54
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its comijgn home lads
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Jun 1, 2016 10:26
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if you live in ...??? BELGIUM???
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Jun 1, 2016 10:26
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Joking aside I genuinely think England will do wheely well
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Jun 1, 2016 11:28
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Insanely Sikh posted:Joking aside I genuinely think England will do wheely well If anything they should be outscoring every team they play. They have the best strikers in the competition
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Jun 1, 2016 12:45
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It'll be supply that's the problem, if anything. All the front options we're taking are quick except Kane, so good distribution and counter attacking should be the order of business, no idea if Wilshere is capable of that sort of service, or if it'll be down to Alli and the full backs?
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Jun 1, 2016 12:58
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Ninpo posted:It'll be supply that's the problem, if anything. All the front options we're taking are quick except Kane, so good distribution and counter attacking should be the order of business, no idea if Wilshere is capable of that sort of service, or if it'll be down to Alli and the full backs? if only we had a midfielder experienced at these exact things.
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Jun 1, 2016 13:46
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Blasmeister posted:if only we had a midfielder experienced at these exact things. Milner 5th best player in Europe, just ahead of Giroud Joking aside, what's going on here is that Roy is selecting unestablished players upfront and has been forced into this at the back. To steady all that change, he's played it safe with established players in midfield. Eminently sensible man, Roy. Young-rear end team and yeah, would've been nice to see Drinkwater rewarded but you're being gaylords about Milner, Wilshere and Hendo
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Jun 1, 2016 14:13
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I honestly can't believe anyone is defending the decision to take Wilshere, or, to a lesser degree, Henderson.
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Jun 1, 2016 14:55
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Blasmeister posted:if only we had a midfielder experienced at these exact things. Again, Drinkwater was absolutely rubbish at doing this against Australia, with arguably our fastest front three in front of him (maybe Lallana for Townsend, but gently caress off will Townsend be starting a game). He should have had more chances in previous games, but when Roy has given him a shot he didn't impress enough to dislodge the players Hodgson trusts. Ninpo posted:I honestly can't believe anyone is defending the decision to take Wilshere, or, to a lesser degree, Henderson. If Wilshere is fit Hodgson was always going to pick him. He was MOTM in what, 6 of the 7 qualifiers? Drinkwater needed to prove he was better than that (in an England shirt), and unfortunately he didn't. Henderson has never been great for England, but Roy obviously likes him and in an international tournament you are always going to be biased towards the players you are used to. Essentially: Insanely Sikh posted:Joking aside, what's going on here is that Roy is selecting unestablished players upfront and has been forced into this at the back. To steady all that change, he's played it safe with established players in midfield. Eminently sensible man, Roy.
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Jun 1, 2016 16:37
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Drinkwater would usually be the typical player who does it for a team outside the established order and everyone says "Ah but he only did it to that level", see Grant Holt in 2012, but Drinkwater, actually won the loving league and in doing so showed more ability than Wilshere ever has. What do you have to do to get in the england set up? You win titles in one of the greatest upsets in history and dont get in despite being a key component of the team, it must be maddening for so many players and must disillusion them. But who gives a gently caress anyway as I supposed Drinkwater has got more premier league medals than Wilshere will ever win
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Jun 1, 2016 23:09
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Roy Hodgson is a loving mong
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Jun 2, 2016 00:33
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Wilshire and England both sponsored by Nike. Drinkwater isn't. End of.
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Jun 2, 2016 02:12
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Ninpo posted:I honestly can't believe anyone is defending the decision to take Wilshere, or, to a lesser degree, Henderson. Yeah neither should be in the team due to form and injuries. The fact that Henderson will most likely start over Jimmy is pretty stupid too imo. In saying that neither are terrible like some English players have been in the past.
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Jun 2, 2016 04:07
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England is very provincial, they'll always have a moan about the team selection for a tournament, the only surprise is it's limited to Wilshere and not something about the country lacks technical quality so they should play counter-attacking and therefore Jermain Defoe deserved to go
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Jun 2, 2016 04:14
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Provincial are we. Just you wait till I tell the rest of the villagers.
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Jun 2, 2016 09:31
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aren't we all, in some way, provincial?
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Jun 2, 2016 09:40
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This raises a question about international football that I don't know the answer to - is it better to pick a squad based on the last three months of form or a squad that you've been shaping together across years of qualifiers and friendlies? The only objection I have is that John Stones is barely Premier League level and has the potential to actively harm the team whenever he's on the pitch
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Jun 2, 2016 09:44
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Monday Bandele posted:This raises a question about international football that I don't know the answer to - is it better to pick a squad based on the last three months of form or a squad that you've been shaping together across years of qualifiers and friendlies? Trying to develop players and a team at national level is dumb. Any manager interested in that kind of thing should go find a club. For years England have been obsessed with introducing young players with "potential" into the national side, and now they're all still getting picked despite not being able to get into their club sides all season. It can help when all the players know each other and are used to playing with one another, but it's still better to have quality players, and the countries with tiny player pools like Wales and Iceland would trade all that togetherness for as many top flight players as England have in a heartbeat.
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Jun 2, 2016 10:40
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sassassin posted:It can help when all the players know each other and are used to playing with one another, but it's still better to have quality players, and the countries with tiny player pools like Wales and Iceland would trade all that togetherness for as many top flight players as England have in a heartbeat.
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Jun 2, 2016 11:14
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RE: Wilshere. We have to remember that Wilshere has played well for England many times. Roy knows he can work with him since they've done many times before, knows he'll do what Hodgson asks of him and won't get jitters representing his country because he's been fine before. Drinkwater has this against him and it must of weighed into Hodgson thinking with a Tournament so soon he didn't want to gamble. Half the reason Rashford is in the squad is to avoid media backlash, just politics. The media bleating about Hodgson taking the wrong squad is not helpful to the players.
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Jun 2, 2016 11:52
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sweek0 posted:It's obviously not that black and white but I would say that team togetherness is as important as quality of individual players. Obviously you need both, but there have been plenty of examples of well managed national teams without superstars outperforming teams studded with stars. Usually when the "stars" are all past it or out of form or were big and strong for an 18 year old so everyone assumed they had potential to become a great footballer. Half the England team peaked at 20.
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Jun 2, 2016 12:51
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England: Hart: Walker, Smalling, Cahill, Rose; Dier, Milner, Alli: Rooney, Vardy, Kane That looks like Rooney and Vardy either side of Kane, and Alli in central midfield. Hopefully Rooney and Alli switch places and it's a 4-4-2 diamond, otherwise he's lost the plot (again).
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Jun 2, 2016 18:45
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The formation looks stupid BUT as it contains neithe Henderson nor permacrock Wilshere, it's still about as good a team as you're gonna see England put on the field this summer I'd say.
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Jun 2, 2016 19:02
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sweek0 posted:It's obviously not that black and white but I would say that team togetherness is as important as quality of individual players. Obviously you need both, but there have been plenty of examples of well managed national teams without superstars outperforming teams studded with stars. the way to do this is to actually keep kids who are going to be good enough for the main team in the youth setups until they're actually old enough for the main team
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Jun 2, 2016 19:04
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Insurrectionist posted:The formation looks stupid BUT as it contains neithe Henderson nor permacrock Wilshere, it's still about as good a team as you're gonna see England put on the field this summer I'd say. Yeah, if you shuffle the formation around I suspect that's Hodgson's first team. Maybe Lallana or Sterling for Vardy.
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Jun 2, 2016 19:04
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EvilHawk posted:England: Hart: Walker, Smalling, Cahill, Rose; Dier, Milner, Alli: Rooney, Vardy, Kane Are they all going to just stand on the backline? Code tags please
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Jun 2, 2016 19:05
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That is in fact the team I would pick, but with Clyne. :Quantum leap I'm Retarded gif but with Hodgson instead of another retard: edit: lol at Milner holding hands with a kid the same size as him Tortuga fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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Jun 2, 2016 19:23
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Hmmm apparently Rooney will be playing centrally and your actually good strikers are off to the sides? A bold move.
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Jun 2, 2016 19:45
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nani up front lol
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Jun 2, 2016 19:46
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We're playing Vardy and Kane either side of Rooney. Fantastic
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Jun 2, 2016 19:57
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Smalling is shite, yet somehow it's no longer funny to me.
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