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yeah the VIZ releases are night and day compared to these scans sometimes
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I've been rereading the Greed Island and Ant Arcs recently, and I noticed some things that weren't well thought out. The first one is that I think Biscuit should have been the one to take on the Bomber, given her experience and strength. The second is that the three of them trained a certain scenario in which Gon leads the Bomber into a secluded area with a trap floor. The assumption is that they were the ones that would chose their opponents, when in reality it was the Bomber that made that call. He does mention to his allies that he wanted to fight Gon, so it works out anyway. But still, that was an unforeseen scenario. The Bomber could have just as easily chosen Killua, who had no counter to Little Flower. A third thing is that the Spiders wanted that nen removal ability, but the guy had already used it to remove the bomb from himself. He had to fulfill the condition of removal (touching the Bomber and saying "I caught the bomber") before he could help Chrollo. This is such an important thing to the Spider that during the 3 weeks Gon and co spent preparing to fight the Bomber, the Spider should have made their move first, captured the Bomber (with ease) and the arc would be over. With the Chimera Ant arc, I think the Dragon Dive during the invasion of the palace was all wrong. Why would the team move in at exactly midnight, and then the lances hit? Better to time the lances to hit first, and than a millisecond after, everyone goes through the portal. That kind of confusion among allies is exactly the kind of thing that could have ruined their plan. There's even that bit about how God's Accomplice might have strengthened after death so nobody would find Knuckles and the geckos dead bodies if they were hit. It was a good scene to show how fast Gon is at thinking on his feet but not a good scene from a planning perspective since supposedly everything was planned to a T to allow for as little room for error as possible.
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Jun 1, 2016 10:42
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the spiders and hisoka were absolutely not equipped to capture genthru alive while he was on greed island. anywhere else, sure. but on greed island he was a master.
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Jun 1, 2016 11:52
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Lpzie posted:I've been rereading the Greed Island and Ant Arcs recently, and I noticed some things that weren't well thought out.
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Jun 1, 2016 13:28
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Lpzie posted:The first one is that I think Biscuit should have been the one to take on the Bomber, given her experience and strength. Personally I got the impression that she could have just personally clowned the whole gang after hulking out. Her whole MO was pushing Gon and Killua to test their limits.
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Jun 1, 2016 14:59
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She's one of the top Hunters in the series, even if her Masseuse isn't useful in direct combat.
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Jun 1, 2016 15:04
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Serious Frolicking posted:the spiders and hisoka were absolutely not equipped to capture genthru alive while he was on greed island. anywhere else, sure. but on greed island he was a master. yeah he was sufficiently good as a hunter to mean he'd be able to escape using cards unlike most of the other people on greed island
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Lpzie posted:A third thing is that the Spiders wanted that nen removal ability, but the guy had already used it to remove the bomb from himself. He had to fulfill the condition of removal (touching the Bomber and saying "I caught the bomber") before he could help Chrollo. This is such an important thing to the Spider that during the 3 weeks Gon and co spent preparing to fight the Bomber, the Spider should have made their move first, captured the Bomber (with ease) and the arc would be over. I don't think they even knew about this stuff. Hisoka had not gotten in contact with Abengane until after he had gotten the nen removed if I recall.
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Jun 1, 2016 23:36
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No, the timings were the other way around. Hisoka made contact immediately after the dodgeball match, which was 3 weeks before the Gon vs Bomber fight. As for combat abilities, Greed Island spell cards were only for stealing/targeting/protecting ally/enemy cards/information/location. I think the Spiders could have taken the Bomber out really easily since they still had the element of surprise on their side. Sure, once the Bomber caught on that he was being hunted he'd have to start burning through Accompany's and Return's (although this one would led to an ambush since it always takes you to the same spot outside the city) to escape. On another note, I just finished the Ant Arc, my first time doing it all in one go, and it honestly is amongst the best arcs I have ever read in any manga before. Which is weird since when I read it during HiatusXHiatus, it still felt good but not so much so as when read together. Lpzie fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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Jun 2, 2016 00:19
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ant arc is tight in everything. Tone, pacing, action and world-building
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Jun 2, 2016 00:44
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The second half is. The first half still feels like a bit of a slog to me.
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Jun 2, 2016 01:04
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The King also has a heel turn but really not like three times. Pouf falls for it every time.
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Can someone explain why assassins are even trying to pass the Hunter Exam? I feel as if I missed something.
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Jun 2, 2016 07:12
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I think Illumi needed one for a job he had, Hisoka for Having a license gets perks around the world like access to almost every country or easy money like Gon's bank loan in Yorknew and Leorio's college tuition. Doesn't seem strange to want one for the perks.
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Jun 2, 2016 07:25
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Even just selling the thing nets you enough money to live in comfort.
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Jun 2, 2016 07:31
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But why was it such a big deal in the past 2 arcs (election and boat ride) to weed out the assassins from the exam? I always felt like being an assassin in the HxH world wasn't as frowned upon as it is in our world.
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Jun 2, 2016 07:46
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Lpzie posted:Can someone explain why assassins are even trying to pass the Hunter Exam? I feel as if I missed something. You can usually get away with killing if you have one.
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Lpzie posted:But why was it such a big deal in the past 2 arcs (election and boat ride) to weed out the assassins from the exam? I always felt like being an assassin in the HxH world wasn't as frowned upon as it is in our world. I don't think they're weeding out assassins as much as weeding out the liars for the boat trip. They're wary of Beyond Netero's group, and aware that spies might try to infiltrate the Hunter Association when they're trying to prevent Beyond from doing what he wants. It just so happens that the assassins / bodyguards hired by the princes are also caught up in the crossfire, since some of them are also lying about their purpose.
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Jun 2, 2016 07:49
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Plus I think it's mentioned that the hunter exams were notoriously loose mainly because of the previous chairman.
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Jun 2, 2016 07:52
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Reform of the exam was one of the things that Teradin and the Seirin group campaigned on. And yeah, Hisoka wanted the license because it renders you immune from prosecution a lot of the time.
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Jun 2, 2016 09:43
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I'd like to think for all they disagreed on, Netero and Pariston were likely united on the death gauntlet issue.
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Jun 2, 2016 09:48
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The Hunter Exam is fine. The kind of lives Hunters lead, anyone that can't pass the basic competency test that the exam is is gonna be loving dead in about three days after getting their licence anyway.
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Yeah Gon himself agrees to heal the Bombers because the Hunters the Bombers killed knew what they were getting into. Killua himself points out that he's actually even worse can he killed innocents and the weak.
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Jun 2, 2016 09:52
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New chapter: http://readms.com/r/hunter_x_hunter/356/3441/1
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Jun 2, 2016 14:30
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Oh, so it's not the seals that blow up, but rather the body of the person carrying the seals, including any detached parts (such as, say, a lopped-off head).  I guess.
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i just like hisoka, and hate chrollo more for each passing chapter. goddamn chessmaster dork he is i'm joking, but i want hisoka to slug him realllllly hard at least once Wild Horses fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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Wild Horses posted:i just like hisoka, and hate chrollo more for each passing chapter. goddamn chessmaster dork he is I don't know how you can hate a guy when the culmination of his multi-faceted, chess master plan is just straight up chucking dudes at his opponent.
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yeah it's an impressive fight for sure, would just be sad if hisoka died in a suicide bombing without even punching chrollo once https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l_x9R6yAxQ Hisoka's theme rocks Wild Horses fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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Jun 2, 2016 15:56
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I'm like mildly worried about Hisoka pulling out a hitherto unknown trump card relating to his nen powers with that line. "...if I'm going to die anyway" almost always involves a trump card. But this is togashi so it should be against the usual trope. Either that or bungie-gum super shield to reflect the blast back at chrollo.
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Jun 2, 2016 15:59
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Justice For Gotoh
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Crain posted:I'm like mildly worried about Hisoka pulling out a hitherto unknown trump card relating to his nen powers with that line. "...if I'm going to die anyway" almost always involves a trump card. He's got nothing left to lose, so now he's going to use the power of both gum and rubber.
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I doubt Hisoka will pull out a completely unknown trump card but it'll probably be some clever and previously unforeseen property of rubber or gum. Or maybe Texture Surprise. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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Jun 2, 2016 16:12
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He's had texture surprise over Chrollo's eyes this whole time and has him trapped in some sort of VR nightmare.
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Gyges posted:He's got nothing left to lose, so now he's going to use the power of both gum and rubber. ImpAtom posted:I doubt Hisoka will pull out a completely unknown trump card but it'll probably be some clever and previously unforeseen property of rubber or gum. I can't really believe just how much I still love that loving joke. If Hisoka dies here that's what I'll miss the most.
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It's very simple. He's a transmuter, we saw in one frame he was covering himself in aura defensively. Bungee gum has both the properties of rubber and gum. He's 'sticking' all the damage he's taking into his aura using its gum like abilities, but he's then going to 'bounce back' the damage using its rubber-like abilities.
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Lpzie posted:I've been rereading the Greed Island and Ant Arcs recently, and I noticed some things that weren't well thought out. quote:The second is that the three of them trained a certain scenario in which Gon leads the Bomber into a secluded area with a trap floor. The assumption is that they were the ones that would chose their opponents, when in reality it was the Bomber that made that call. He does mention to his allies that he wanted to fight Gon, so it works out anyway. But still, that was an unforeseen scenario. The Bomber could have just as easily chosen Killua, who had no counter to Little Flower. quote:A third thing is that the Spiders wanted that nen removal ability, but the guy had already used it to remove the bomb from himself. He had to fulfill the condition of removal (touching the Bomber and saying "I caught the bomber") before he could help Chrollo. This is such an important thing to the Spider that during the 3 weeks Gon and co spent preparing to fight the Bomber, the Spider should have made their move first, captured the Bomber (with ease) and the arc would be over. Other than that I just think Togashi didn't want them to be a part of that encounter. Genthru was the "final boss" of Greed Island and Gon's fight so they didn't interfere. Tonfa posted:Justice For Gotoh
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Jun 2, 2016 19:07
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Hisoka texture surprised himself as the body he picked up for his new head flail and vice versa then used bungee gum to finely manipulate it while remaining hidden himself. Fight is not over until texture surprise has been played is my opinion.
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i like how unconcerned hisoka is that he lost a foot and a hand also i realise that while most hunters don't have a huge amount of nen abilities and Hisoka is closer to enhancement than materialisation it doesn't really feel like its come out of nowhere if he uses a different skill. this is the first time we've seen him fight anybody who would require anything more
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I don't care about this fight at all and hope it's over very soon.
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i think you're reading the wrong manga. the hiatus starts when this fight ends and then we never get any more
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