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MMF Freeway
Sep 15, 2010

Later!

lazorexplosion posted:

This game is way better than TF2 if only because it forces pubs to play the actual game with actual matchmaking instead of 2fort instaspawn increased max players cancer.

Oh no not the cancer

Custom maps owned you idiot

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PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox
I honestly don't think I've ever seen a Winston POTG. The only way I can even think of that you'd get one is if you ulted and managed to knock a bunch of people into a pit or something. He's just designed in such a way that getting big kill combos is super rare.

DrSeRRoD
Apr 5, 2008

Oh hey, Blizzard also has a profile site tracking your stats. It's not as in-depth as masteroverwatch.com with charts and leaderboards, but still neat to know it exists. You can find yours here: https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/career/pc/us/YOURBATTLETAG-####.

PantsBandit posted:

I honestly don't think I've ever seen a Winston POTG. The only way I can even think of that you'd get one is if you ulted and managed to knock a bunch of people into a pit or something. He's just designed in such a way that getting big kill combos is super rare.

This is the only time I've seen Winston/Lucio PoTGs so far. They usually involve a pit or ledge someone can be tossed into or over. Roadhog can pull some of these as well. I think I've seen more Symmetra PoTGs from people walking into turrets and getting zapped to death than those two.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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HoboWithAShotgun posted:

I haven't bought this yet but I plan to after trying the beta.

If news is correct, it seems like they're already doing a good job on the hacking issue.

Goddamn that's hardcore, wish Valve would consider it for the Lmaoboxers

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

voltron lion force posted:

Oh no not the cancer

Custom maps owned you idiot

I still remember the time I was playing some random arena server and got kicked for capping the point multiple times. Like, everyone was yelling at me to stop. That still made me scratch my head.

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

The Shortest Path posted:

But that meant the players actually interested in playing the game could avoid all the lovely 2fort pubbies. Now we're forced to play with them.

clearly we need a 24v24 2fort weekly brawl

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

Minrad posted:

*mercy pulls out pistol* if you died tmrw I'd rez you but i wouldnt pocket heal you... cuz id be in jail for killing the muthafucka that killed u!

Don't hate the playa... hate the play (of the game)

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Forty Eight Winstons

Linx
Aug 14, 2008

Pork Pro

BigRed0427 posted:

I still remember the time I was playing some random arena server and got kicked for capping the point multiple times. Like, everyone was yelling at me to stop. That still made me scratch my head.

Reminds me of trying to play Battlefield on PC where you'd get kicked from the server for not using the admins choice of 2 weapons

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

I'm still a little confused as to why Zenyatta has to be both so slow and so squishy. It's nice that he can regenerate a third of his health, but, I mean, Mercy can regenerate all of hers, and she has 50 more maximum health than Zenyatta does (and loads more mobility). Zenyatta's better on offense, sure, but surely he isn't so good that he needs to be killable by one sniper body-shot, right?

DrSeRRoD
Apr 5, 2008

Yup, and I like the suggestion on the forums of having his discord orb also lowering the damage of the target, so he can survive (and extra second) if he can land it before they can land a shot on him. It is annoying how slow he is though. I'd rather replace his charge-fire with an escape/teleporty/sprint option. Dropping from floating and running for a few seconds using his feet would probably be useful and also stun the attacker from laughter.

Turtle Sandbox
Dec 31, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Protip: Shoot the mcree until he dies.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)

voltron lion force posted:

Oh no not the cancer

Custom maps owned you idiot

i love being forced to do one thing instead of having the choice to do that thing or also other things if i wish, for i am insane u see

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox

Harrow posted:

I'm still a little confused as to why Zenyatta has to be both so slow and so squishy. It's nice that he can regenerate a third of his health, but, I mean, Mercy can regenerate all of hers, and she has 50 more maximum health than Zenyatta does (and loads more mobility). Zenyatta's better on offense, sure, but surely he isn't so good that he needs to be killable by one sniper body-shot, right?

No you're right, Zenyatta is in a really weird place right now. The problem is people LOVE to play flankers. If I'm playing as Genji, I'm going to go after the healer. Mercy, if she's paying attention, can shift to a teammate and get away from me before I can finish her off. Zenyatta though all I have to do is land like one shuriken on him and the dude is done for. Same situation with any other ganker in the game vs Zen. He's just got zero survivability.

Turtle Sandbox
Dec 31, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

voltron lion force posted:

Oh no not the cancer

Custom maps owned you idiot

Why do shitters like you want to have fun the wrong way?

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
Zenyatta can be pretty good if literally his entire team are babysitting him 24/7

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

PantsBandit posted:

I honestly don't think I've ever seen a Winston POTG. The only way I can even think of that you'd get one is if you ulted and managed to knock a bunch of people into a pit or something. He's just designed in such a way that getting big kill combos is super rare.

But when it happens, it can be glorious (originally posted in the meimei thread).

a cock shaped fruit posted:

Today I lived a dream and did the monkey thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b0OeZCZU9M

this is for all winstons out there

keep your chimp hand strong

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.
http://i.imgur.com/kzNljDH.webm

:chloe:

Indecisive
May 6, 2007


Minrad posted:

*mercy pulls out pistol* if you died tmrw I'd rez you but i wouldnt pocket heal you... cuz id be in jail for killing the muthafucka that killed u!

https://gfycat.com/BlandSlimyArchaeopteryx

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house

Genji reflects so much stuff it's nuts. He can deflect junkrat's traps, meaning junkrat can potentially teamkill. Same with his total mayhem etc.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

DrSeRRoD posted:

Yup, and I like the suggestion on the forums of having his discord orb also lowering the damage of the target, so he can survive (and extra second) if he can land it before they can land a shot on him. It is annoying how slow he is though. I'd rather replace his charge-fire with an escape/teleporty/sprint option. Dropping from floating and running for a few seconds using his feet would probably be useful and also stun the attacker from laughter.

PantsBandit posted:

No you're right, Zenyatta is in a really weird place right now. The problem is people LOVE to play flankers. If I'm playing as Genji, I'm going to go after the healer. Mercy, if she's paying attention, can shift to a teammate and get away from me before I can finish her off. Zenyatta though all I have to do is land like one shuriken on him and the dude is done for. Same situation with any other ganker in the game vs Zen. He's just got zero survivability.

Yeah, I'd love some sort of mobility option. I can appreciate that maybe there's some design space for a squishy support, but jeez, give him something to work with. He's up against Mercy and Lucio as healers and both of them can zip around like crazy while also regenerating their own health. Even if he doesn't get more health, being able to just move if I have to would be great, and would definitely be more useful than the charged shot.

Prav
Oct 29, 2011


genji reflecting practically anything is good and cool

Runa
Feb 13, 2011


Nice

Bolivar
Aug 20, 2011

The funny thing is how Zenyattas HP got just nerfed from 175 to 150, in other words Blizzard felt that he was totally overpowered and needed to be adjusted.

Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!
Got my first abusive PS4 message from Overwatch. Some Widowmaker was wrecking our poo poo, so I switched to Mei and did basically nothing for the rest of the match but throw ice walls in front of her as she aimed. I must have ruined dozens of shots.

I'm loving in love with this game.

DrSeRRoD
Apr 5, 2008

Harrow posted:

Yeah, I'd love some sort of mobility option. I can appreciate that maybe there's some design space for a squishy support, but jeez, give him something to work with. He's up against Mercy and Lucio as healers and both of them can zip around like crazy while also regenerating their own health. Even if he doesn't get more health, being able to just move if I have to would be great, and would definitely be more useful than the charged shot.

Love the Zenyatta avatar. I have 16 hours on him so far and he is a blast. He also has one of, if not the, toughest achievement in the game that may also be bugged, but Rapid Discord is crazy. I also still haven't landed a 1500+ transcendence heal as people are getting much better at running away from ults (but also run away from the big glowly support on their team). He is a lot of fun for me as I can shoot, debuff, buff, and there's just so much going on, but his lack of mobility will never allow me to participate as much as Mercy. I've gotten a 100% participation card on her, but nothing higher than around 30% on Zenyatta, and even then, that was probably us sitting at a point for a while as enemies ran in single-file and never managed to reach me.

I'm not too sure I like his skins though. One looks like a genie and one looks like a bird. I guess metallic Krillin works for now until they add some more options. I think the only skins I really like are the Reinhart and Reaper ones, although there are a few non-legendary ones that I like, such as the muddy/dirty roadhog since it fits him so well.

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox

Prav posted:

genji reflecting practically anything is good and cool

https://gfycat.com/SpanishApprehensiveDachshund

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


Ddraig posted:

Genji reflects so much stuff it's nuts. He can deflect junkrat's traps, meaning junkrat can potentially teamkill. Same with his total mayhem etc.

I detonated a reflected concussion mine in the face of a friendly Mercy. :(

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.

Bolivar posted:

The funny thing is how Zenyattas HP got just nerfed from 175 to 150, in other words Blizzard felt that he was totally overpowered and needed to be adjusted.

he was being picked 2 of in every game before he ate a huge series of nerfs, well after the hp change

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

DrSeRRoD posted:

Love the Zenyatta avatar. I have 16 hours on him so far and he is a blast. He also has one of, if not the, toughest achievement in the game that may also be bugged, but Rapid Discord is crazy. I also still haven't landed a 1500+ transcendence heal as people are getting much better at running away from ults (but also run away from the big glowly support on their team). He is a lot of fun for me as I can shoot, debuff, buff, and there's just so much going on, but his lack of mobility will never allow me to participate as much as Mercy. I've gotten a 100% participation card on her, but nothing higher than around 30% on Zenyatta, and even then, that was probably us sitting at a point for a while as enemies ran in single-file and never managed to reach me.

I'm not too sure I like his skins though. One looks like a genie and one looks like a bird. I guess metallic Krillin works for now until they add some more options. I think the only skins I really like are the Reinhart and Reaper ones, although there are a few non-legendary ones that I like, such as the muddy/dirty roadhog since it fits him so well.

Yeah, I really do love Zenyatta, which is why I'd love just the smallest boost to his survivability so I can feel like I can play him against a team with more than one flanker and/or literally any sniper without dragging my team down.

I like his skins well enough but I do think his default is probably cooler overall. The only character whose non-recolor skins I don't think I'd ever use is Lucio, really, which is a shame because he's a ton of fun to play.

Bolivar posted:

The funny thing is how Zenyattas HP got just nerfed from 175 to 150, in other words Blizzard felt that he was totally overpowered and needed to be adjusted.

Wasn't that back when his orbs would stay on the target without LoS?

Like, in that case I understand. If Zen only has to peek out and then slap a Discord on someone, then go back into hiding, he should be astonishingly squishy. But because he has to maintain LoS to do anything useful now, his squishiness (combined with his total lack of mobility) makes him a liability to his team unless he has a Reinhardt babysitting him and also a Lucio or Mercy on the team.

It's telling that the only other hero who's as squishy as Zenyatta is Tracer, and her whole deal is being incredibly mobile and difficult to pin down. Zenyatta's got no real recourse.

Harrow fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Jun 2, 2016

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

DrSeRRoD posted:

Yup, and I like the suggestion on the forums of having his discord orb also lowering the damage of the target, so he can survive (and extra second) if he can land it before they can land a shot on him. It is annoying how slow he is though. I'd rather replace his charge-fire with an escape/teleporty/sprint option. Dropping from floating and running for a few seconds using his feet would probably be useful and also stun the attacker from laughter.

If he had a reaper-style wraith form escape it'd probably be easy to fit into the whole "I am formless and mindless in the iris" thing.

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox
Since there's a human Genji skin there should really be a robo-hanzo skin. Dropped the ball on that one, blizz.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
The problem with buffing Zenyatta's health is that even if you give him an extra 25, this is a team game so you have to take into account other team members, and with a Symmetra that would buff him up to 200 health, which the same as Soldier 76. Considering the tools Zenyatta has that's kind of nuts.

whatspeakyou
Mar 3, 2010

no fucks given.
Gave Mei a shot last night. Holy poo poo. I started to feel bad with how ungodly annoying she can be to an opposing team. 4 people firing at me near a point? Ice Wall. Team needs me to hold a point in a pinch? Ice Block. Reinhardt being all shieldy? Frozen. support heroes hiding behind the point? Ult and some icicles to the dome will fix that. Also love ice walling the floor underneath me to gently caress up people's aim while I continue to make it rain icicles.

Also, nailing widowmaker in the face from a long ways off is incredibly satisfying. Mei is clutch as gently caress.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

Ddraig posted:

The problem with buffing Zenyatta's health is that even if you give him an extra 25, this is a team game so you have to take into account other team members, and with a Symmetra that would buff him up to 200 health, which the same as Soldier 76. Considering the tools Zenyatta has that's kind of nuts.

He still wouldn't have any mobility

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
Apparently Blizzard permabanned 1572 players in China for cheating :stare:

whatspeakyou posted:

Gave Mei a shot last night. Holy poo poo. I started to feel bad with how ungodly annoying she can be to an opposing team. 4 people firing at me near a point? Ice Wall. Team needs me to hold a point in a pinch? Ice Block. Reinhardt being all shieldy? Frozen. support heroes hiding behind the point? Ult and some icicles to the dome will fix that. Also love ice walling the floor underneath me to gently caress up people's aim while I continue to make it rain icicles.

Also, nailing widowmaker in the face from a long ways off is incredibly satisfying. Mei is clutch as gently caress.

Right?? My friend who I was grouped with was like "I want to try someone I never play. I'll try Mei" and I was like "try her! she's super weird at first but once she clicks she becomes amazing." And sure enough when the match was over my friend was like MEI IS SO FUN OH MY GOD

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house

Broken Cog posted:

He still wouldn't have any mobility

Mobility would be less important if you have 200 health, the ability to poo poo out enough damage to melt any tank in seconds.

He would be Zencree and people would be complaining about him.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Ddraig posted:

Mobility would be less important if you have 200 health, the ability to poo poo out enough damage to melt any tank in seconds.

He would be Zencree and people would be complaining about him.

You're assuming every team with a Zenyatta has a Symmetra, and that any team with a Zenyatta would require a Symmetra, and that's a bad situation, too.

I'd much prefer that he gets some sort of mobility option than more health, honestly. Give me some recourse when a Reaper warps behind me or a Widowmaker, y'know, exists. I don't want Zenyatta to get Tracer levels of mobility, but at least make it so that when I get blown the hell up by a flanker, I can at least fight back in a way that isn't "try to headshot them a bunch and pray they somehow miss me with half their shots."

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
You are vastly overestimating the value of a 25hp buff. Its only 200 with symetra on the team. Does anyone else.go from bad to broken ridiculous good with a symetra shield?

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Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
I think people would pick up on the fact that you have a death-dealing heal machine like Zenyatta tearing up everyone and everything when paired up with Symmetra fairly quickly.

The fact is that healthpools in this game are at such a point where a tiny amount of extra, comparatively speaking, can make the world of difference. This is why Symmetra got nerfed from 50 shields to 25 because 200 health tracers and 250 Genjis were tearing up shop.

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