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Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

secfuck question: is there a "better" way to do sudo than with a password? i'm logging in to my server entirely with public/private key pairs but then wind up typing my password anyway to sudo things. i know i can outright disable it requiring a password but that seems like a Very Bad Idea.

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negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

flakeloaf posted:

the information is probably being collected anyway by cell towers and whatever, i'd might as well see some benefit from it

such are the burdens of carrying a transmitter that broadcasts a unique number everywhere i go

I'm the cell tower passing on the recordings of your butt trumpet symphonies.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Parallel Paraplegic posted:

secfuck question: is there a "better" way to do sudo than with a password? i'm logging in to my server entirely with public/private key pairs but then wind up typing my password anyway to sudo things. i know i can outright disable it requiring a password but that seems like a Very Bad Idea.

u could do 2fa with a PAM that will do TOTP authentication so yo would need a phone that is linked to the account and give in a one time code
or you could use a smartcard or token to authenticate

but then you'd have to worry about losing the phone or token

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

OSI bean dip posted:

https://securitysnakeoil.org
https://twitter.com/secsnakeoil

got tired of the bs and am going to work with a few others on this problem
is it safe to assume you're working with asher langton on this? i've never met him but he's a cool dude who loves to out scams. ask him about arturas some time

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

spankmeister posted:

u could do 2fa with a PAM that will do TOTP authentication so yo would need a phone that is linked to the account and give in a one time code
or you could use a smartcard or token to authenticate

but then you'd have to worry about losing the phone or token

oh i forgot it's sitting on top of PAM isn't it, hmm okay

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

anthonypants posted:

is it safe to assume you're working with asher langton on this? i've never met him but he's a cool dude who loves to out scams. ask him about arturas some time

we're talking yes :)

he and i have shared info in the past

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

OSI bean dip posted:

we're talking yes :)

he and i have shared info in the past

i gave u a shoutout on the tweetz0r machine, 0 likes and 0 RTs i am the irrelevancy in the OP

negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

OSI bean dip posted:

we're talking yes :)

he and i have shared info in the past

I'd love to help out with this as well.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

BattleMaster posted:

Mine's empty but the location history is frighteningly accurate and pretty fascinating

location history is mad useful



its too bad i didn't have it fully functional before like 2012 or so

Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

I use Google voice dictation pretty frequently and still there's more in there than I expected. Some pretty clear instances of the voice search triggering in my pocket.

My favorite was "no no no no no, C-A-V. Constant angular velocity."

Winkle-Daddy
Mar 10, 2007

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

secfuck question: is there a "better" way to do sudo than with a password? i'm logging in to my server entirely with public/private key pairs but then wind up typing my password anyway to sudo things. i know i can outright disable it requiring a password but that seems like a Very Bad Idea.

Not exactly what you're asking for but what things do you find you normally need to run sudo for? If it's specific applications that require sudo you could consider creating a non-root account that has permission to run those specific things. So your /etc/sudoers would look something like:
code:
yourUserName ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /path/to/binary
You can even restrict which args can be run with:
code:
yourUserName ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /path/to/binary arg1 arg2 etc
This is good to do things like allowing yum list installed, but not allowing yum install. Not exactly what you asked, but hopefully it's useful!

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

avatar
specialist


so until we hire a new it guy i have inherited cj duties

the office i'm embedded at basically has no security or compliance in place

while we're waiting for an actual sec guy to get hired, is there something like a secfuck checklist i could run with to at least mitigate the most obscene stuff?

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo
@SecSnakeOil is a great idea, given you a push from our Edinburgh Skeptics account. I think there should be a greater crossover before skepticism and IT, it's not something that really comes up. Edit: usually alt med and the like is our bread and butter

Was gonna do an "IT Security Myths" talk for our group based on things I've learnt from you guys, but it'll be dead boring and boring isn't good for public presentations.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

surebet posted:

so until we hire a new it guy i have inherited cj duties

the office i'm embedded at basically has no security or compliance in place

while we're waiting for an actual sec guy to get hired, is there something like a secfuck checklist i could run with to at least mitigate the most obscene stuff?

you're going to need to be more specific, are you talking about being in charge of app security or network security or what,

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

fishmech posted:

location history is mad useful



its too bad i didn't have it fully functional before like 2012 or so

where are u in boston

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

surebet posted:

so until we hire a new it guy i have inherited cj duties

the office i'm embedded at basically has no security or compliance in place

while we're waiting for an actual sec guy to get hired, is there something like a secfuck checklist i could run with to at least mitigate the most obscene stuff?

im twitching

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Suspicious Dish posted:

where are u in boston

right on the border of allston and brighton

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

fishmech posted:

right on the border of allston and brighton

apparently i live very close 2 fishmech :aaa:

Podima
Nov 4, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

surebet posted:

so until we hire a new it guy i have inherited cj duties

the office i'm embedded at basically has no security or compliance in place

while we're waiting for an actual sec guy to get hired, is there something like a secfuck checklist i could run with to at least mitigate the most obscene stuff?

gonna quote this post back at you in ~3 months when this is your new job description daily hell

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

Podima posted:

gonna quote this post back at you in ~3 months when this is your new job description daily hell

yeah start lookin for a new job because 1. they aint hiring anyone 2. you are now branded as The Computer Man

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

oh i forgot it's sitting on top of PAM isn't it

yes it is

we use centrify directcontrol to bind it to AD so at least it hooks into our strong password policy

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug
fishmech has been very near me according to one of those red dots :hfive:

Winkle-Daddy
Mar 10, 2007

OSI bean dip posted:

https://securitysnakeoil.org
https://twitter.com/secsnakeoil

got tired of the bs and am going to work with a few others on this problem

FYI - this is being blocked by whatever feed we subscribe to at work. I'll try to find out what it is so if you care you can ask why they blocked you. (they're probably afraid you'll call out their lovely security practices)

E: We're using Palo Alto which uses BrightCloud. You can request a change here: https://urlfiltering.paloaltonetworks.com/testasite.aspx if you care to.

Winkle-Daddy fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jun 2, 2016

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

Winkle-Daddy posted:

FYI - this is being blocked by whatever feed we subscribe to at work. I'll try to find out what it is so if you care you can ask why they blocked you. (they're probably afraid you'll call out their lovely security practices)

E: We're using Palo Alto which uses BrightCloud. You can request a change here: https://urlfiltering.paloaltonetworks.com/testasite.aspx if you care to.

i am behind a PA and it's not having any issues. let me know if this persists though

thehustler posted:

@SecSnakeOil is a great idea, given you a push from our Edinburgh Skeptics account. I think there should be a greater crossover before skepticism and IT, it's not something that really comes up. Edit: usually alt med and the like is our bread and butter

Was gonna do an "IT Security Myths" talk for our group based on things I've learnt from you guys, but it'll be dead boring and boring isn't good for public presentations.

i am planning a talk on this at some point later this year

gfsincere posted:

I'd love to help out with this as well.

feel free to pm me if you have any ideas or just tweet at me

Winkle-Daddy
Mar 10, 2007

OSI bean dip posted:

i am behind a PA and it's not having any issues. let me know if this persists though

Our policy is to block "unknown" which probably just means you haven't been scanned yet.

Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

Slava Ukraini!
I had some really nice google location history , but for reasons i still didnt understand, one day i checked the website and it had all been deleted and went back from zero

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo

OSI bean dip posted:

i am planning a talk on this at some point later this year

if you ever come to the UK and fancy doing the talk over here let me know and you can come do it for us and maybe a few other groups if you're interested? expenses/accommodation on us (not the loving ritz or whatever jeez)

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

avatar
specialist


Captain Foo posted:

you're going to need to be more specific, are you talking about being in charge of app security or network security or what,

general office best practices, software recommendation/restrictions (assume 95% of the people use basic office/web stuff), temporary infrastructure & backup solutions (i don't want to commit the future hire to something so for now i'd only buy common core stuff like an lto drive) and other bare basics sec stuff

basically is there a list that shows the 7 deadly sins of enterprise it or something is what i'm looking for


graph posted:

im twitching

i wanted to roll up in a ball and cry when i saw all the financial stuff un-backed and spread across ad hoc network shares

Podima posted:

gonna quote this post back at you in ~3 months when this is your new job description daily hell

i would be hilariously underqualified to do this long term

graph posted:

yeah start lookin for a new job because 1. they aint hiring anyone 2. you are now branded as The Computer Man

while i do have computer stank on me (and have for a while) i've seen the money for the hire and the only reason the last one bailed was for medical issues

i have been unfucking people's excel stuff for a while though, but so far it's been a fairly good side gig

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

surebet posted:

i've seen the money for the hire

seems safe then

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

surebet posted:



i wanted to roll up in a ball and cry when i saw all the financial stuff un-backed and spread across ad hoc network shares

fix this asap; are you using AD or no?

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


sort the backups and then worry about other stuff

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

surebet posted:

i would be hilariously underqualified to do this long term

Aren't we all!

Winkle-Daddy
Mar 10, 2007

Volmarias posted:

Aren't we all!

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Volmarias posted:

Aren't we all!

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

surebet posted:

i would be hilariously underqualified to do this long term

that you've apparently convinced someone otherwise implies you're not as thats 90% of being qualified since its basically impossible to hire security people

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

thehustler posted:

if you ever come to the UK and fancy doing the talk over here let me know and you can come do it for us and maybe a few other groups if you're interested? expenses/accommodation on us (not the loving ritz or whatever jeez)

i'll be visiting london and the cotswolds for a wedding in october so maybe? :)

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



TeamViewer carnage today. Nefarious forces are looting Paypals and Amazons.

https://www.reddit.com/r/teamviewer/comments/4m6omd/teamviewer_breach_masterthread_please_post_your/

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer

flosofl posted:

TeamViewer carnage today. Nefarious forces are looting Paypals and Amazons.

https://www.reddit.com/r/teamviewer/comments/4m6omd/teamviewer_breach_masterthread_please_post_your/

quote:

As far as password sniffers go, I did not check and cannot check, as I have used Samsung's tool to securely wipe his SSD and install Zorin (Ubuntu). I've changed all of his passwords and enabled the use of LastPass, which requires a 45-character passphrase when saving/accessing/utilising passwords each time.

this seems like worse punishment than losing your money goddamn

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Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

Slava Ukraini!
lmao

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