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Solumin posted:Right, I knew about the health packs, which made me wonder about armor. I'm guessing you can't, but I haven't checked. I think Reaper is maybe the exception since half the time he'll come from some weird angle above you before you can react
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Flashbang reaper. "Woah there"
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One thing I want to say about this game is how impressed I am at well it manages moving platforms. After playing other FPS games with moving platforms (I still remember the early days of Battlefield 2142 and the hilarity of trying to fight on a moving Titan) I'm impressed at how well the game not only models players on a moving platform or terrain, but also immobile objects (turrets, Junkrat mine, Bastion's fat, deployed rear end) on platforms (or even the payload). Heck, even Reaper's teleport snaps right to moving platforms with no issues, even when blinking FROM a moving platform.Help Im Alive posted:I think Reaper is maybe the exception since half the time he'll come from some weird angle above you before you can react Reaper's Ult is the one I sit on the most behind Winston just because it needs to be saved for the right time. All the others can and often should be used relatively quickly to charge up the next. Reapers is the card up his sleeve that turns "I just teleported into the enemy team's teleporter location and was immediately surrounded" into "I just teleported into the enemy team's teleporter location and killed everything." Alkydere fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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ImpAtom posted:I really wish people understood that standing on the objective prevents the enemy from advancing or capturing and having people who can stand on the objective is very very important. So many frigging games are lost because Bastion sits on the side and shoots while a single Lucio pushes the cart in. This is my hell with King of the Hill, even with Goon teamplay. When you sit outside the objective sniping in, that still means the enemy has places where they can take cover. I am lucio, I can heal 6 people at once on the cap and give us all sweet shields super quickly come help focus-fire some turds.
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Reaper is one of the more annoying characters for me simply because there's no obvious pick to counter a good one. He's so solid on KOTH just reaping all over the point, then you think you got him and he wraith walks away. Yeah I guess McCree works but McCree works for everyone.
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Help Im Alive posted:I think Reaper is maybe the exception since half the time he'll come from some weird angle above you before you can react He's definitely harder to deal with. Genji can handle him if reflect is off cooldown, Reinhardt or Winston can use their shields, someone who isn't too close and try to displace him or shoot him in the head... There's ways to handle him, but Reaper definitely has the upper hand if he gets the drop on your team.
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TASTE THE PAIN!! posted:Reaper is one of the more annoying characters for me simply because there's no obvious pick to counter a good one. He's so solid on KOTH just reaping all over the point, then you think you got him and he wraith walks away. Like most things in the game flashbang and fan the hammer can shut it down pretty hard. e: Good reapers get the high ground before activating death blossom and trigger it on the way down. That way by the time you get in most people's firing lines, you're already murdering them. Easiest ones to shut down are those that are wraith-walking through our team. Boy howdy I wonder what kind of sick play this guy's going for?
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TASTE THE PAIN!! posted:Reaper is one of the more annoying characters for me simply because there's no obvious pick to counter a good one. He's so solid on KOTH just reaping all over the point, then you think you got him and he wraith walks away. Mei can help stop this if he is on a point, mcree wrecks him, and obviously anything from a distance works too assuming you can catch him without his wraith form.
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Jun 2, 2016 19:37
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WoodrowSkillson posted:hes real fun and you are missing out There are lots of fun characters though. I'm sure I'll get around to him eventually. Like when I get his white mariachi skin.
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Ddraig posted:It kind has some elements. Like when a useless D.Va (any other kind?) keeps loving feeding ultimate to everyone in the enemy team while doing absolutely nothing herself. Tactical visors and rocket barrages incoming all day D Va owns
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WoodrowSkillson posted:mcree wrecks him You can become invincible when flashbanged FYI.
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Jun 2, 2016 19:41
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Spanish Manlove posted:You can become invincible when flashbanged FYI. yes but that's on a cooldown and all mcree has to do is follow him, or flashbang him when his wraithform ends.
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TASTE THE PAIN!! posted:Reaper is one of the more annoying characters for me simply because there's no obvious pick to counter a good one. He's so solid on KOTH just reaping all over the point, then you think you got him and he wraith walks away. As someone who's comign to love Reaper: anything with range. A set-up Bastion or Tobjorn turret I can't easily flank, Soldier 76, GODDAMNED MCREEEEEEEE, a flighty Genji, etc. Also battles between Reaper and Roadhog are a coin-flip since they're both shotgun-based and it really comes down to who gets initiative (does the Reaper surprise the Roadhog, or does the Roadhog grab and stun Reaper for a single scrapnel blast to the dome?). Mei can be also a real pain in the rear end.
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Dear Blizz, Please remove Tracer from the game. Thanks.
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Alkydere posted:As someone who's comign to love Reaper: anything with range. A set-up Bastion or Tobjorn turret I can't easily flank, Soldier 76, GODDAMNED MCREEEEEEEE, a flighty Genji, etc. Also battles between Reaper and Roadhog are a coin-flip since they're both shotgun-based and it really comes down to who gets initiative (does the Reaper surprise the Roadhog, or does the Roadhog grab and stun Reaper for a single scrapnel blast to the dome?). Mei can be also a real pain in the rear end. I play a lot of reaper and I find good Pharah's are also challenging to fight -- she's either hard to hit with shotguns b/c she's in the air, or she's knocking me away with her E. If I manage to close the gap though it's definitely Reaper's advantage unless she is absurdly good with rockets.
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Jun 2, 2016 19:49
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Verranicus posted:Dear Blizz, McCree does a good job of that already
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Slime posted:Does damage amp make Mei's primary fire freeze faster or something? It does damage. You can actually kill Tracer or Zenyatta from full health with it if they get zero healing, and they won't even freeze.
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TASTE THE PAIN!! posted:Reaper is one of the more annoying characters for me simply because there's no obvious pick to counter a good one. He's so solid on KOTH just reaping all over the point, then you think you got him and he wraith walks away. If you see a hurt Reaper trying to get away with Wraith Form you can chase him down as Lucio with speed boost and just headshot him. Otherwise yeah Mccree. Reaper doesn't really have character counterpicks so much as he isn't super useful against a lot of the cast compared to the other offense heroes. He loving dominates tanks and operates well in closed quarters, but otherwise he's fairly lackluster. If the other team has a Reinhardt as their sole tank and are playing around him you probably aren't going to get a lot done as Reaper (until you get your ult and then you can wipe them once but you'd probably have been more useful as someone else still).
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Spanish Manlove posted:You can become invincible when flashbanged FYI. no... you can't
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I know I'm doing well when the enemy team sees me and they all immediately converge on me.  Junkrat is just too much fun.Verranicus posted:Dear Blizz, I've only played Tracer once or twice but I think she's really fun. A good one will wreck your team but that's true of any hero.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:yes but that's on a cooldown and all mcree has to do is follow him, or flashbang him when his wraithform ends. Yeah that's going to happen during a chaotic match of Overwatch. Minrad posted:no... you can't Well some dude kept doing that to me when I would flashbang him and it was kinda funny.
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Solumin posted:I've only played Tracer once or twice but I think she's really fun. A good one will wreck your team but that's true of any hero. I'm sure it's happened somewhere as Roadhog, but not enough to make this true.
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Spanish Manlove posted:Well some dude kept doing that to me when I would flashbang him and it was kinda funny. Flashbang has a relatively short duration. You need to follow up with fan immediately after it lands if you want any hope of killing Reaper in time, and every shot in that period needs to hit.
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Countblanc posted:If you see a hurt Reaper trying to get away with Wraith Form you can chase him down as Lucio with speed boost and just headshot him. Otherwise yeah Mccree. Reaper doesn't really have character counterpicks so much as he isn't super useful against a lot of the cast compared to the other offense heroes. He loving dominates tanks and operates well in closed quarters, but otherwise he's fairly lackluster. If the other team has a Reinhardt as their sole tank and are playing around him you probably aren't going to get a lot done as Reaper (until you get your ult and then you can wipe them once but you'd probably have been more useful as someone else still). Yeah, Reaper is decent at going and harassing snipers and such, but to me he shines when I can flank a team capping a point. Its harder to notice the noise of my guns in the melee, and normally im already 1.5 kills into it before anyone turns around to notice me/calls me out on their voice chat. I'll then kill the second and maybe a third before wraithing away, which either draws another person out to chase me, or lets me heal and then come back and harass them more. In KOTH maps I can then survive for a while on the point if i clear it since i can just keep wraithing and fighting until my team shows up. Obviously that's best case as mcree can end that real quick, or pharah will force me off the point, etc etc.
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Countblanc posted:If you see a hurt Reaper trying to get away with Wraith Form you can chase him down as Lucio with speed boost and just headshot him. Otherwise yeah Mccree. Reaper doesn't really have character counterpicks so much as he isn't super useful against a lot of the cast compared to the other offense heroes. He loving dominates tanks and operates well in closed quarters, but otherwise he's fairly lackluster. If the other team has a Reinhardt as their sole tank and are playing around him you probably aren't going to get a lot done as Reaper (until you get your ult and then you can wipe them once but you'd probably have been more useful as someone else still). I feel like Reaper is the entry-level flanking character. You have big honkin' shotguns you just have to get close to use, you can go invulnerable if you over-commit, you can teleport straight to perfect set-up points, and your ult kills people just by being near them. Once you learn the basics of flanking on him, you can move on to other characters like Tracer and Mei who can get more done but require more map knowledge or finesse to do it.
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Spanish Manlove posted:Yeah that's going to happen during a chaotic match of Overwatch. ...yes? Just pursue the wraithing Reaper as long as he is not going to his own team and you can kill him easily as mcree since your DPS with fan the hammer way outbursts reaper's guns.
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Zombie Samurai posted:I feel like Reaper is the entry-level flanking character. You have big honkin' shotguns you just have to get close to use, you can go invulnerable if you over-commit, you can teleport straight to perfect set-up points, and your ult kills people just by being near them. Once you learn the basics of flanking on him, you can move on to other characters like Tracer and Mei who can get more done but require more map knowledge or finesse to do it. yes mei is definitely a step up from reaper uh huh uh huh
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Reminder that Reaper has 8 shots in his clip and an insanely low reload time if you cancel it, and each shot does ~200 damage if you aim center mass (and can do more/less if you aim for heads). That's an insane amount of burst and consistent damage if your opponents have no quick way to disable you or become invulnerable/escape (ie most tanks and some support and defense heroes). You can kill way more people way faster as Reaper with a successful flank than as Mei who is pretty much exclusively a 1v1 hero until you build her insanely-quick-building ult.
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My contribution to @ReaperNames has been met with the only possible response. https://twitter.com/lljktechnogeek/status/738444556132196352 https://twitter.com/ReaperNames/status/738446206649700352
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I just got gold in objective time with a 00:01
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did your team loving destroy the other team? i've had that happen and it was because the game only cares about objectives which are actively being contested if you're a defender I'm pretty sure, and I think there was only a split second where the offense was actually on the point.
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a cat on an apple posted:I just got gold in objective time with a 00:01 This is exactly the kind of thing that makes me need to take a break.
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no we were defending and we lost because no one would try to push them off the objective but the next game I got an MVP card with Zenyatta hell yeah
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Technogeek posted:My contribution to @ReaperNames has been met with the only possible response. The thing is that anyone old enough to use the Seprihoth reference would probably be in their late twenties at the least. Talk about arrested development.
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Sephiroth is badass.
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MVP card honestly seems to mean "didn't die much" more than anything else. I've quad-golded with Pharah while randos get MVP.
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Broken Cog posted:Can you reflect the Dva ult as Genji? I don't believe so, no. Her exploding mech counts as a character (like Junkrat's tire, which is why Reinhardt can pin it and push it away), and you can't deflect explosions.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:MVP card honestly seems to mean "didn't die much" more than anything else. I've quad-golded with Pharah while randos get MVP. Whenever I get "healing done" as Lucio, "damage absorbed" as Reinhardt, or "Objective time" as anyone I always feel like the game is bming me and/or my team
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