NZpol: A Dick-Burning Dumpster Fire

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homeowner	39	22.41%
renter	69	39.66%
stupid peace of poo poo	66	37.93%
Total:	174 votes

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Ivor Biggun: Apr 30, 2003; A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula; Lipstick Apathy

WarpedNaba posted:

Taking the conserve out of conservative is what the right-wing does, why the hell would anyone think the Greens have right-wing voters?

Hi I'm Gareth Morgan, let me tell you about my proposal for a Blue-Green party

# ? Jun 1, 2016 11:00

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# ? May 26, 2024 03:10

WarpedNaba: Feb 8, 2012; Being social makes me swell!

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

Yeah the risk was never that the Greens would switch -- the bigger deal is that Green/Labour are officially working together and can coordinate their poo poo this time.

The bigger deal is that Labour can't even coordinate their own poo poo and will fail to do so so long as Dunne is in charge.

Ivor Biggun posted:

Hi I'm Gareth Morgan, let me tell you about my proposal for a Blue-Green party

Gotta be the weirdest shilling for the Algal Bloom party I've heard yet.

# ? Jun 1, 2016 12:20

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

Ivor Biggun posted:

Hi I'm Gareth Morgan, let me tell you about my proposal for a Blue-Green party

Loves the environment, hates cats (also poors).

# ? Jun 1, 2016 18:42

Ivor Biggun: Apr 30, 2003; A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula; Lipstick Apathy

Central government shifts blame for the housing crisis to city councils.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11649432

quote:

Auckland Council will be required by law to open up enough land to build houses for its rapidly-increasing population under a new policy released by the Government this afternoon.

Housing Minister Nick Smith said a new national policy statement (NPS) sent a "very clear directive" to urban councils that they had to provide sufficient capacity for new housing and businesses in line with projected growth.

"If they are not matching up in terms of their plans, they will be required by law to change them," Dr Smith said.

All councils would be affected by the new policy, but it would have the greatest impact on 27 growing councils, in particular Auckland.

The statement did not specify where councils needed to open up land - only that sufficient capacity had to be created to match long-term demand.

On top of freeing up land for housing, the statement required councils to:

� Monitor and respond to housing affordability, building consent and land value data

� Co-ordinate infrastructure and ensure consent processes are "customer focused"

� Recognise the national significance of ensuring enough land is available for housing With predicted population of 18 per cent, Auckland was classified as a "high growth" region in the NPS.

What he doesn't say is that in order to build the infrastructure to support this the councils will need to raise rates or get more central funding. Good thing National is all set to deliver tax cuts!

# ? Jun 2, 2016 05:33

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

Eat poo poo Auckland Council that Central Government created specifically to design and implement some kind of "Unitary Plan" to address these very issues, a plan which Central Government specifically denied a request to have it take effect immediately on completion.

What he also doesn't mention is that actually significant amounts of infrastructure decisions in Auckland are made by NZTA, not AT, and as a result things like the Second Harbour Crossing continue to be kicked further down the line, and they're still not committed to helping fund the CRL.

# ? Jun 2, 2016 07:03

Ivor Biggun: Apr 30, 2003; A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula; Lipstick Apathy

Ghostlight posted:

Eat poo poo Auckland Council that Central Government created specifically to design and implement some kind of "Unitary Plan" to address these very issues, a plan which Central Government specifically denied a request to have it take effect immediately on completion.

Government is going to want to see something start happening before the general election next year. I wonder how much inaction they'll tolerate before they step in and appoint Commissar Brownlee to sort it out. :commissar:

Ivor Biggun fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Jun 2, 2016

# ? Jun 2, 2016 07:27

oohhboy: Jun 8, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Would you like a house for 500K or less? Pfffahahahha.

http://thespinoff.co.nz/politics-me...y2t0-nA.twitter

# ? Jun 2, 2016 07:30

Binkenstein: Jan 18, 2010

Pop quiz: guess who said this, and when:

quote:

We also want to ensure that every young New Zealander who works hard and is disciplined about saving can expect to own their own home and thereby have a real stake in the economic future of this country.
Today, I want to talk in some depth about the declining rates of home ownership in New Zealand.
It has relevance to you, not only as an industry that interacts closely with the building and construction sector more generally, and as the mums and dads of a generation coping with this issue, but also because you are key voices in the debate about resource management law and compliance costs in this country.
It�s those aspects of the home affordability crisis that I want to concentrate on today.
But first, let�s take a minute to look at the enormity of this problem.
It wasn�t so long ago, in the 1990s, in fact, that New Zealand had a high level of home ownership compared to other countries. Not so anymore. We now have what has been described as the second worst housing affordability problem in the world.
Make no mistake; this problem has got worse in recent years. Home ownership declined by 5% between the 2001 and 2006 census to just 62.7%. To put that into context, home ownership for the preceding five years had been stable at 67.4%.
If you dig down into those numbers a little deeper, some worrying facts emerge. The share of homes owned by people aged 20 to 40 dropped significantly between 2001 and 2006. Young people � the people we most want to prevent joining the great Kiwi brain-drain � are really struggling to get onto the property ladder.
This decline shows no signs of slowing. In fact, on current trends, the crisis will only deepen. Home ownership rates are predicted to plummet to 60% within the next decade. And one of the biggest factors influencing home-ownership rates over the next 10 years will be the difficulty young buyers will have getting into their first home.
This problem won�t be solved by knee-jerk, quick-fix plans. And it won�t be curbed with one or two government-sponsored building developments.
We will look for long-term solutions based on a sound understanding of the economic forces that have led to the contemporary low home-ownership rates.
Those forces can be grouped in two categories.
The first is demand-side. Sadly, in 2007, thousands of young New Zealanders have resigned themselves to never owning their own home. Since 2001, saving a deposit for a house has become increasingly difficult for too many of them.
Even though unemployment has declined, having a job hasn�t been enough to enable people to buy their own house. In 1999 a median-priced house cost just over 6 times the median wage. By 2006 it cost 10 times the median wage.
In part that�s because house prices have risen sharply. Median house prices are now essentially double what they were six years ago.
Not only have house prices increased but the cost of serving a mortgage has also skyrocketed in recent years. During the 90s, interest rates came down from 15.4% to 6.7%. That made servicing a mortgage more affordable for many people. But in 2007 interest rates have spiked to 10.4%.
To put those stats into context, you need only look at what that means for a first-home buyer on the average wage buying a median-priced house. In 1999 it took just 42% of their average take-home pay to service their mortgage. It now takes around 81%. That�s after they�ve somehow managed to save up a 20% deposit in the first place. That is a crippling increase.
The result is that too many Kiwi families can�t see a way to get themselves onto the first rung of the property ladder. They don�t even aspire to owning their own home anymore. We have to turn that around.
The second and most important reason for the home affordability crisis is one of supply. It explains why houses have become so unaffordable for so many people. Quite simply, not enough new houses are being built in New Zealand. This is a recent phenomenon. In many parts of the country, increases in demand for housing are now outstripping supply.
That imbalance is vividly illustrated in Auckland. In the five years to 2006, the supply of housing stock has failed to keep up with population growth. Again to put that into context, over the 15 years to 2006 the housing stock grew at a faster rate than population. So the supply problem is a recent one.
Economics 101 would tell you that if the demand for housing outstrips supply, then the only way for house prices to go is up, up, up. So, if we�re going to do something about home affordability we need to do something about the factors strangling the supply of housing.

Answer: It's John Key from a speech in 2007 http://www.nzpif.org.nz/news/view/53038

# ? Jun 3, 2016 01:19

Ivor Biggun: Apr 30, 2003; A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula; Lipstick Apathy

No more Glucina / Scout?

https://twitter.com/RachelGlucinaNZ/status/738506826673618944
https://twitter.com/RachelGlucinaNZ/status/738506870982217728
https://twitter.com/RachelGlucinaNZ/status/738506910052159488
https://twitter.com/RachelGlucinaNZ/status/738506964943020032

# ? Jun 3, 2016 02:29

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

Did they get her twitter account as part of the deal?

# ? Jun 3, 2016 02:38

NZAmoeba: Feb 14, 2005; It turns out it's MAN!; Hair Elf

Binkenstein posted:

Pop quiz: guess who said this, and when:

Answer: It's John Key from a speech in 2007 http://www.nzpif.org.nz/news/view/53038

Where his solution appears to be "Get rid of all that compliance red tape" immediately after the leaky homes crisis

# ? Jun 3, 2016 02:46

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

https://twitter.com/NewshubPolitics/status/738537561170182145

buh? duh?

# ? Jun 3, 2016 09:18

WarpedNaba: Feb 8, 2012; Being social makes me swell!

Two allied parties joining numbers to oust a party representative directly opposed to them from a city that is currently undergoing a crisis due to widespread economic mismanagement under said party = Dirty deal.

Thanks, Newshub!

# ? Jun 3, 2016 09:28

Lancelot: May 23, 2006; Fun Shoe

do the greens even need to stand someone in Auckland Central? that's what I don't get, the perception of dirty politics in stuff like the Goldsmith Epsom deal is because National ran a candidate and told people not to vote for him, but why run someone there at all when you're just hoping they get in as a list MP?

also what is newshub

# ? Jun 3, 2016 10:06

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

Newshub is like serious news for serious people but on the internet and appears to be trying to supplant nightly news broadcasts by being less entertainment and more news. I think.

# ? Jun 3, 2016 12:34

Cumslut1895: Feb 18, 2015; by FactsAreUseless

Slavvy posted:

Newshub is like serious news for serious people but on the internet and appears to be trying to supplant nightly news broadcasts by being less entertainment and more news. I think.

DU
KE

# ? Jun 3, 2016 13:30

voiceless anal fricative: May 6, 2007

And I can't help but read it as New Shub

# ? Jun 3, 2016 23:02

klen dool: May 7, 2007; Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.

All I see is pornhub - the logo is so similar, did they not do a brief Google before committing to that name?

# ? Jun 4, 2016 00:13

voiceless anal fricative: May 6, 2007

Winston is back riding the racism train, and proving he's the master of dog whistle politics:

quote:

But here's what we want. We want them to salute our flag,�respect our laws, honour our institutions and, above all, don't bring�absolutely anti-women attitudes with them, treating women like cattle,�like fourth-class citizens.

I wonder if among "our institutions" that he wants immigrants to honour he includes denying abortion access, business meetings at men-only bars, and domestic violence? Because he sure as poo poo does (the first two, anyway).

# ? Jun 5, 2016 02:29

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

Saluting the flag sounds like some kind of bullshit foreigner thing to do.

# ? Jun 5, 2016 02:53

WarpedNaba: Feb 8, 2012; Being social makes me swell!

Only flags I recall in Auckland are on the bridge and at the Museum. Both don't strike me as wise areas to wave your arms around.

# ? Jun 5, 2016 03:21

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

Please don't bring anti-women attitudes to New Zealand. On the world stage we are already punching above our weight in domestic abuse rates.

# ? Jun 5, 2016 03:28

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

Ghostlight posted:

Saluting the flag sounds like some kind of bullshit foreigner thing to do.

It's a trap to catch foreigners, real kiwis know you only salute the silver fern.

# ? Jun 5, 2016 04:29

Taitale: Feb 19, 2011

WarpedNaba posted:

Only flags I recall in Auckland are on the bridge and at the Museum. Both don't strike me as wise areas to wave your arms around.

There are quite a few flags around chch ever since the referendum.

# ? Jun 5, 2016 04:30

WarpedNaba: Feb 8, 2012; Being social makes me swell!

Yeah, but that's Christchurch. It's like a freezing Florida without theme parks.

# ? Jun 5, 2016 04:59

ledge: Jun 10, 2003

WarpedNaba posted:

Yeah, but that's Christchurch. It's like a freezing Florida without theme parks.

Or alligators.

# ? Jun 5, 2016 08:26

Lancelot: May 23, 2006; Fun Shoe

why does winston think cattle are fourth-class citizens? does he think cows is people

# ? Jun 5, 2016 08:28

Wafflecopper: Nov 27, 2004; I am a mouth, and I must scream

WarpedNaba posted:

Yeah, but that's Christchurch. It's like a freezing Florida without theme parks.

Christchurch has better weather than Wellington, just sayin

# ? Jun 5, 2016 08:44

Spiteski: Aug 27, 2013

Jacinda Ardern is a p.cool orator.

# ? Jun 5, 2016 09:54

edogawa rando: Mar 20, 2007

Honestly, if you're not disgusted by the fact that this government slashed funding to special needs education in an attempt to get that mythical surplus, then go gently caress yourself.

# ? Jun 5, 2016 11:02

WarpedNaba: Feb 8, 2012; Being social makes me swell!

I'm more surprised that after 12 years of right-wing governance that we even have special needs education funding.

# ? Jun 5, 2016 11:25

Moongrave: Jun 19, 2004; Finally Living Rent Free

WarpedNaba posted:

I'm more surprised that after 12 years of right-wing governance that we even have special needs education funding.

One assumes they are still having children.

# ? Jun 5, 2016 22:09

Binkenstein: Jan 18, 2010

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/80766241/jane-bowron-whatever-happened-to-interviewing-politicians

quote:

With less than 18 months out from the next election, that is if the Prime Minister doesn't call a snap election, it's timely for both TVNZ and TV3 to insert their weekend political news and commentary shows into the evening schedule.

Seven Sharp and Story have pretty much given up any pretence of actually interviewing politicians and holding them to account. These 'current affairs' shows have become increasingly irrelevant as National Party fan Mike Hosking is allowed an unbridled free political party shot with his end of programme nightly rants, while Story devotes itself to great chunks of promoting the narcissistic Life & Times of Heather Du Plessis-Allan.

# ? Jun 6, 2016 04:35

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

fong posted:

And I can't help but read it as New Shub

extremely same

# ? Jun 7, 2016 07:55

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

Binkenstein posted:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/80766241/jane-bowron-whatever-happened-to-interviewing-politicians

Wait is that a stuff article about how journalistic integrity is nonexistent and nightly news is just reality tv in a suit or am I understanding wrong?

# ? Jun 7, 2016 08:15

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

No you aren't, but also it's a great way to implicitly say that your news brand is the real news brand without having to actually change your content to be different from the outlets you're slagging off.

# ? Jun 7, 2016 08:18

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

But...stuff doesn't do anything the others don't do....?

# ? Jun 7, 2016 08:19

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Russel Norman has a stupid beard, now

# ? Jun 8, 2016 07:25

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

That is an IT beard if ever I saw one.

# ? Jun 8, 2016 07:49

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# ? May 26, 2024 03:10

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

That is an arse eater beard.

# ? Jun 8, 2016 09:19

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