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Veotax
May 16, 2006


You used to be able to craft the Witcher gear at a much earlier level, but they increased the level requirements in a patch. With no regard to if you were already wearing the stuff.
I ended up dropping the game 30 hours in because I was wearing nothing but crafted stuff when that patch hit and I was in the middle of a quest that unequipped your stuff for a story thing and I was unable to equip it again.

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QuietLion
Aug 16, 2011

Da realest Kirby
Packmasters in Vermintide would be way less awful if their AI made any sense. Half the time the Packmaster snipes a victim from a distance away, but the rest of the time he'll waltz into the middle of the group to grab a target. There is no real way to tell who he'll do that to.

Since I play with at least 1 buddy the PM dies basically immediately anyway, but it was getting really old seeing the rat ignore the three people in front of me just to poke my character. At least they still don't snag people through literal walls, I've heard that was in an earlier patch and it made stairs death traps.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Inco posted:

I never got past the prison mine level of Jedi Outcast because I couldn't keep the prisoners from getting killed from the AT-STs. I finally figured out how to keep the prisoners from getting killed from the Imperials on top of the walls, as well as not getting killed by the AT-ST that's shooting at me, and then the doors opened and another AT-ST came out and killed the rest of the prisoners immediately. At that point I just threw up my hands and quit because this is just way too much bullshit to deal with.

I recently replayed Jedi Outcast and that is the reason why I didn't pick one of the harder difficulties. I have fallen into that trap before.

Also posting ITT so I can easily find my recent post about the game.
Edit:

Mierenneuker posted:

I replayed George Lucas' Star Wars: Dark Forces III: Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast this week and I knew it had a rough beginning going in and boy, it was even worse than I remembered.

You don't start as a Jedi which leads to almost two hours of the most accurate Stormtrooper combat simulator ever, because neither you nor the enemies can hit poo poo. I found myself either taking slow shots at a distance in the hopes of killing them eventually OR just running in melee-range and using the blaster rifle to shotgun them to death. There's also a bunch of dumb sequences like having to escort a prison warden at gunpoint. He only moves if you have your cross-hair over him, yet he walks at a snail's pace when you do. When he finally opens a door you need him for several critters will pop out and will chew him to death unless you quickly respond and kill them. Otherwise look forward to reloading and escorting the warden again, because while this game has checkpoints they are usually ten minutes apart. There's also the sequence where you have to protect the prisoners from Stormtroopers and an AT-ST before too many of them die, which is a good way to hate yourself for picking one of the harder difficulty levels (and the main reason I stuck to the default difficulty this time, because I've been there before).

But then you finally get your lightsaber and force powers, phew. And the tutorial section for them wasn't even that bad as I thought it would be! But oh, it's Nar Shaddaa all of a sudden where the main enemies are suicidal grenade lobbers and long-range snipers so you pretty much have to stick to guns. It's like an entire section of Greedo's cousins taking revenge for Han shooting first, because you can hear them charging the sniper rifle but you usually don't see them until after they've taken a shot at you. Also, lots of small platforms where it's easy to fall off into a endless pit AKA a quick game over.

It starts getting better when you get to Bespin/Cloud City although it starts with one of many sections where the devs fully intended you to die the first time. In the beginning you have to crack a vent and then wait for an elevator to come down to take you upwards. The force of the elevator coming down however blows you away if you decided to wait in the vent, sending you to off to the clouds (AKA another quick game over). At no other point in the game do you have to deal with wind blowing you away! Another Bespin highlight: being forced to protect an R2 droid that will just blindly stumble into trip mines, forcing you to run ahead and clear them all. Meanwhile some Nar Shaddaa rejects are firing from you across the way. So you either die because of them, die because of the trip mines exploding or the R2 droid dies and you have to do it all over again. You can use force speed to slow things down and use force push to shove the R2 unit back a bit, but there's just not enough time to do it all at once.

You are about halfway done at that point, but the game gets good. Sure, there's a stealth section, but it's actually not that bad if know where to go? Huh.
It helps that you can just rush to the alarm and prevent people from activating it during most of the section. It's probably a lot more trial and error the first time through.

Either way, onwards to replaying Jedi Academy next. You start with a lightsaber in that one, so it already has a leg up.

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jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.
In the first Jedi Knight I managed to accidentally hit quicksave just as Kyle fell off a cliff.

*scream* *die* *autoreload to the beginning of scream*

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.
Yeah Jedi Knight 2 has good parts but I think most folks would be well advised to skip right to Jedi Academy. JA has one of the worst fan fic-style Mary Sue stories in entire Star Wars EU, which is a very bold statement that I think is fair in this case, but the gameplay is good and there is lots of fun lightsabering of bad dudes.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

jojoinnit posted:

In the first Jedi Knight I managed to accidentally hit quicksave just as Kyle fell off a cliff.

*scream* *die* *autoreload to the beginning of scream*

In Half Life 2 I hit an auto-save right as a grenade blew up in my face to leave me with 3 hp. In Nova Prospekt.

I got really loving good at commanding antlions.

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

gohuskies posted:

Yeah Jedi Knight 2 has good parts but I think most folks would be well advised to skip right to Jedi Academy. JA has one of the worst fan fic-style Mary Sue stories in entire Star Wars EU, which is a very bold statement that I think is fair in this case, but the gameplay is good and there is lots of fun lightsabering of bad dudes.
I actually found the gameplay a bit of a step down from JK2 - saber combat ended up with an overreliance on massive sword-sponge enemies and special move spam, whereas JK2's felt a lot quicker and deadlier - which makes the much better level design etc frustrating. Wish there was a game w the best of both

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Lunchmeat Larry posted:

I actually found the gameplay a bit of a step down from JK2 - saber combat ended up with an overreliance on massive sword-sponge enemies and special move spam, whereas JK2's felt a lot quicker and deadlier - which makes the much better level design etc frustrating. Wish there was a game w the best of both

Also your name is Jaden.

electrohead
May 24, 2007

Everybody loves you.
In Hitman (2016), the subtitles in the tutorial say "discretely" instead of "discreetly." I guess it doesn't really bring it down. Unless it keeps on happening, that is.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

electrohead posted:

In Hitman (2016), the subtitles in the tutorial say "discretely" instead of "discreetly." I guess it doesn't really bring it down. Unless it keeps on happening, that is.

I dunno, it's one of those small things you notice and keep eating at you sometimes. Like in Destiny there's one part where a boss gets introduced and it says something about enemies coming to kill you, but the subtitles say something completely different and it bothers me every time I see that boss, even if I have the audio off because I just know the dialogue doesn't match that subtitle at all.

electrohead
May 24, 2007

Everybody loves you.
Yeah, that's pretty annoying too. I always have subtitles on because my hearing's kinda busted, but I can tell if they're different from the actual voice-acted lines.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


There's no option to revert the destiny dialog back to the peter dinklage voiced lines. I heard a little of it when my friend streamed his game when it was new. It was truly wretched. I feel ripped off that I can't hear them too.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

Veotax posted:

You used to be able to craft the Witcher gear at a much earlier level, but they increased the level requirements in a patch. With no regard to if you were already wearing the stuff.
I ended up dropping the game 30 hours in because I was wearing nothing but crafted stuff when that patch hit and I was in the middle of a quest that unequipped your stuff for a story thing and I was unable to equip it again.

They actually give you a potion that lets you wear the higher level gear for enough time to get leveled back up.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Nuebot posted:

I dunno, it's one of those small things you notice and keep eating at you sometimes. Like in Destiny there's one part where a boss gets introduced and it says something about enemies coming to kill you, but the subtitles say something completely different and it bothers me every time I see that boss, even if I have the audio off because I just know the dialogue doesn't match that subtitle at all.

Sonic Heroes had several instances of constantly recurring character chatter having incorrect subtitles, but since it was during gameplay you never quite noticed... until you see it once, then you see it every time. I remember the biggest case was the line 'Are those Eggman's robots?' being displayed as 'Are those Eggman's assassins?'

The most recent instance I can think of is that a cutscene in Dark Souls 3 had gendered lines programmed in but not voiced. So the subtitle calls female players 'wench', but the speech calls them a 'git'.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Krinkle posted:

There's no option to revert the destiny dialog back to the peter dinklage voiced lines. I heard a little of it when my friend streamed his game when it was new. It was truly wretched. I feel ripped off that I can't hear them too.

Removing "That wizard. .. he came from the moon!" After the beta was a loving crime.

Curdy Lemonstan
Jan 25, 2012

by zen death robot

gohuskies posted:

Yeah Jedi Knight 2 has good parts but I think most folks would be well advised to skip right to Jedi Academy. JA has one of the worst fan fic-style Mary Sue stories in entire Star Wars EU, which is a very bold statement that I think is fair in this case, but the gameplay is good and there is lots of fun lightsabering of bad dudes.

I really don't agree. Jedi Academy is a lot more boring generally. Jedi outcasts laser fights actually feel deadly and impactful. I JA you just meet some rear end in a top hat jedi in the very first map. That sucks.

Jedi Outcast, for all it's faults, has a great sense of ebb and flow in the level design, and you get extremely powerful later on, which wouldnt be as awesome if you didnt have to work for it.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"


Dinklage's deadpan bored robot voice for Destiny was awesome and it only got hated on because Kotaku did an article on it. As if we needed another loving game with Nolan North all over it, jesus.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

Ryoshi posted:

Dinklage's deadpan bored robot voice for Destiny was awesome and it only got hated on because Kotaku did an article on it. As if we needed another loving game with Nolan North all over it, jesus.

No, it was pretty widely panned across the board as mediocre and pointless celebrity voice acting at release.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Ryoshi posted:

Dinklage's deadpan bored robot voice for Destiny was awesome and it only got hated on because Kotaku did an article on it. As if we needed another loving game with Nolan North all over it, jesus.

No it was legitimately really bad and an embarrassment for Bungie and Dinklage. I mean it was funny bad, but I don't think that's what they were going for with Destiny.

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Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

The Moon Monster posted:

No it was legitimately really bad and an embarrassment for Bungie and Dinklage. I mean it was funny bad, but I don't really think that's what they were going for with Destiny.

This is a good username/post combo.

I mean, sure, The Moon Wizard would have been funnier, but I'll take what I can get.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
I think I remember hearing about this, they literally shelled out for a celebrity voice and it was so bad that they shelled out even more to replace all of the celebrity lines with someone else?

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Cleretic posted:

Because Gilgamesh is traditionally the super-hard bonus boss, much of the game centers around him skirting the sidelines of various major world-spanning conflicts, picking fights with whoever crosses his path when he does so. Because clearly, the people who are deliberately not going straight for their biggest enemies are the strongest, bravest and greatest of all.

The super-hard bonus boss in his own game is actually a flashback to Final Fantasy V. Because what's the hardest fight to a recurring superboss? Their initial appearance as a henchman that you actually are supposed to win against.

This is my new favorite game idea.

Include weapon durability, except Gilgamesh just gets bored with using the same sword, and you have to keep adding more and more jewels and sequins and poo poo to restore his interest.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

2house2fly posted:

I think I remember hearing about this, they literally shelled out for a celebrity voice and it was so bad that they shelled out even more to replace all of the celebrity lines with someone else?

They were doing an expansion and weren't bringing Dinklage back. So while they had a new voice, they also had him go back and replace everything.

Luckily there's not a whole lot of content in Destiny anyway so it wasn't too extensive.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Aphrodite posted:

They were doing an expansion and weren't bringing Dinklage back. So while they had a new voice, they also had him go back and replace everything.

Luckily there's not a whole lot of content in Destiny anyway so it wasn't too extensive.

Half the content is standing next to a door while the Dinklebot floats around and babbles about sending noble houses of moon wizard machine gods screaming back to hell so there was quite a bit to replace, given the size of the game.

Veotax
May 16, 2006


Mokinokaro posted:

They actually give you a potion that lets you wear the higher level gear for enough time to get leveled back up.

Pretty sure that came in the next patch, I had already uninstalled the game by then.

Inco
Apr 3, 2009

I have been working out! My modem is broken and my phone eats half the posts I try to make, including all the posts I've tried to make here. I'll try this one more time.
I've had Metal Gear Solid 5 for about 2 weeks now, and I've been having a lot of fun with it. One of my friends was talking about the FOB stuff, and I said I had no interest in it and I wasn't going to bother building one because the invasions sound like an opt-in punishment. Well, apparently at one point the game forces you to create one whether you want to or not, and the only recourse after that is to play offline. Problem is, half of my resources can only be accessed if I'm online right now as it is, and I haven't even built the FOB yet. My options are to lose half my resources or get strong-armed into this bullshit I don't want to take part in.

gently caress this game.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

Inco posted:

I've had Metal Gear Solid 5 for about 2 weeks now, and I've been having a lot of fun with it. One of my friends was talking about the FOB stuff, and I said I had no interest in it and I wasn't going to bother building one because the invasions sound like an opt-in punishment. Well, apparently at one point the game forces you to create one whether you want to or not, and the only recourse after that is to play offline. Problem is, half of my resources can only be accessed if I'm online right now as it is, and I haven't even built the FOB yet. My options are to lose half my resources or get strong-armed into this bullshit I don't want to take part in.

gently caress this game.

Option 3: Play on PC, use Cheat Engine to bypass all of the mobile game meter-filling p2w bullshit without having to deal with online play or wait days of real-life time. For optimal results hold both middle fingers erect in Konami's general direction while doing so.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Inco posted:

I've had Metal Gear Solid 5 for about 2 weeks now, and I've been having a lot of fun with it. One of my friends was talking about the FOB stuff, and I said I had no interest in it and I wasn't going to bother building one because the invasions sound like an opt-in punishment. Well, apparently at one point the game forces you to create one whether you want to or not, and the only recourse after that is to play offline. Problem is, half of my resources can only be accessed if I'm online right now as it is, and I haven't even built the FOB yet. My options are to lose half my resources or get strong-armed into this bullshit I don't want to take part in.

gently caress this game.
So ignore the invasions and just beat all the missions. It's not that difficult, you don't need optimal use of your resources.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Midway through the game a mechanic is introduced that makes the game harder! gently caress. This. Game. With. Fire. From. Orbit. Goon. Sire.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

*in a cutscene, D-Dog plays a fake violin for you real sarcastically*

Inco
Apr 3, 2009

I have been working out! My modem is broken and my phone eats half the posts I try to make, including all the posts I've tried to make here. I'll try this one more time.

FactsAreUseless posted:

So ignore the invasions and just beat all the missions. It's not that difficult, you don't need optimal use of your resources.

I just don't like the idea of people randomly coming in and loving up my poo poo. Moreso that it can happen when I'm not playing. I'm leaving for a week in a month, and I don't like the possibility that all my poo poo is going to be gone when I get back.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Inco posted:

I just don't like the idea of people randomly coming in and loving up my poo poo. Moreso that it can happen when I'm not playing. I'm leaving for a week in a month, and I don't like the possibility that all my poo poo is going to be gone when I get back.
Yes, if you do not play the game consistently for months at a time, you will lose all progress. The system is intensely punishing and unfun. You should stop playing forever.

Beyond the Grave
Jan 25, 2011
People can't even invade if you just don't do the tutorial invasion. Not the forced one where you rescue your own base, but the actual one online.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

MGS5 isn't good anymore by the time FOBs show up anyway, it's a fine time to quit.

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

I played MGSV to completion and never got invaded but that was way back when it was released and there were way more people playing the game so you know....

Trick Question
Apr 9, 2007


Invaders can only invade your like, secondary bases, which naturally just have your shittiest dudes and small amounts of resources. You can get more fobs and put more dudes and stuff on them, but you have to go out of your way to do that.

Honestly, they're mostly a source of shitloads of GMP when people try to invade your fobs and fail.

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

kazil posted:

I played MGSV to completion and never got invaded but that was way back when it was released and there were way more people playing the game so you know....

I once played until I fell asleep in front of my TV and woke up to a message that I had been invaded and lost some stuff, and that was the only one I "saw." Which is really weird since I invaded people reasonably often which I think was supposed to increase your risk of being invaded? It seems like something that could be pretty safely ignored if my experience is any indication.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

kazil posted:

I played MGSV to completion and never got invaded but that was way back when it was released and there were way more people playing the game so you know....

I beat it recently and never got invaded, and that's with doing a shitload of FOB stuff. If you put the barest amount of effort into having any defenses at all, everyone basically goes and hits one of the million bases that has no defense whatsoever.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

kazil posted:

I played MGSV to completion and never got invaded but that was way back when it was released and there were way more people playing the game so you know....

They've patched the game a bunch of times to slow down the rate at which you acquire resources and add more bullshit hoops to jump through, MGSV is the rare case where playing a game at launch actually gives you a superior experience than late adopters who get to play the heavily patched version.

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Inco
Apr 3, 2009

I have been working out! My modem is broken and my phone eats half the posts I try to make, including all the posts I've tried to make here. I'll try this one more time.

FactsAreUseless posted:

Midway through the game a mechanic is introduced that makes the game harder! gently caress. This. Game. With. Fire. From. Orbit. Goon. Sire.

It doesn't make it harder, it just makes it more tedious. That's not difficulty, that's another bullshit timesink on top of all the other ones.

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