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Evilreaver posted:Just make more children and get leather from them Yeah but you can't make more children if you don't have any.
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DmitriX posted:Yeah but you can't make more children if you don't have any. Uhhhhhhhhh that's why I keep a steel chest full of Adults? You wierdo
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Evilreaver posted:Uhhhhhhhhh that's why I keep a steel chest full of Adults? You wierdo Yeah well, not if you spent all of them on whips.
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Evilreaver posted:Just make more children and get leather from them This is a human-leather whip. All craftsdwarfship is of the highest quality.
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MrYenko posted:This is a human-leather whip. All craftsdwarfship is of the highest quality. Now you've wandered into Rimworld crossover territory.
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DmitriX posted:Yeah well, not if you spent all of them on whips. The gently caress kinda ratios are you using. You need probably a 50/50 ratio for leather and children.
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widespread posted:The gently caress kinda ratios are you using. You need probably a 50/50 ratio for leather and children. My leather-producing slave-chlidren tend to empty those chests really quickly. I do appreciate them being a combined assembly machine and an inserter tho.
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DmitriX posted:My leather-producing slave-chlidren tend to empty those chests really quickly. I do appreciate them being a combined assembly machine and an inserter tho. Oh okay. Make it 75/25 to Leather.
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Jun 3, 2016 08:28
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lol if you're not belting children
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Evilreaver posted:lol if you're not belting children 
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FFF is out: https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-141quote:I guess that not so many people really expected that the target day of the 1st of June might be the actual release day. The day was mainly a psychological trick for us to finish all the little fixes and not to start any new projects, so we might be only week or two late instead of months. We started the first multiplayer play-tests last week, but they didn't last long. After the first hour of connection issue fixes, the game desynced every 15 seconds. It goes into detail about the mod portal. They're going with a fairly integrated design which will surely annoy some people and of course it's not ready yet but will be part of 0.13. The new loco graphic is nifty though. 
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My biggest problem with the old train locomotive graphic was that I couldn't easily tell which way it was facing when I was first starting out. Combined with the rather bizarre ability of the game to let you attach train locomotives to cargo wagons backward it left me very confused as to why I couldn't get a train to work despite having locomotives on each end. I can't tell if the new locomotive graphic is any better, since they only showed a blown up version.
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It looks like the new train graphic has an arrow painted on top pointing at the front of the train. Too bad about the release date though...
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The train is just the right touch of Mad Max. Although I'll miss the old design too.
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Well, since 0.13 ain't happenin for a while i restarted my server in a new game. It already has a bit of infra setup from the get-go to avoid that whole mining phase. The details can be found right in the nearby forum https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3777542 No bobmods this time round so it's mostly vanilla with helpers.
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ShadowHawk posted:My biggest problem with the old train locomotive graphic was that I couldn't easily tell which way it was facing when I was first starting out. Combined with the rather bizarre ability of the game to let you attach train locomotives to cargo wagons backward it left me very confused as to why I couldn't get a train to work despite having locomotives on each end. There is no wrong way for a locomotive. They can push and pull.
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Gibbo posted:There is no wrong way for a locomotive. They can push and pull. They can only go in one direction, though, and if that direction isn't a valid path the train won't run auto.
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Tenebrais posted:They can only go in one direction, though, and if that direction isn't a valid path the train won't run auto.  Really useful engines do as they're told.
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Tenebrais posted:They can only go in one direction, though, and if that direction isn't a valid path the train won't run auto. That's the use'rs fault, not the train's
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Gibbo posted:That's the use'rs fault, not the train's Yes, that's what he was talking about. He was confused as to which way the train was pointing.
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On both the current loco and the .13 loco there's an arrow on the roof to tell you which direction it's facing. For the current loco: 
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Evilreaver posted:lol if you're not belting children 
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ShadowHawk posted:My biggest problem with the old train locomotive graphic was that I couldn't easily tell which way it was facing when I was first starting out. Combined with the rather bizarre ability of the game to let you attach train locomotives to cargo wagons backward it left me very confused as to why I couldn't get a train to work despite having locomotives on each end. Pointy end forward
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Dootman posted:On both the current loco and the .13 loco there's an arrow on the roof to tell you which direction it's facing.  How did I never notice this?
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Royal W posted:
I, for one, never noticed it because “pointy end first” is obvious enough.
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So my most recent factory build I've been running 8 freight cars and 2 locomotives and I'm liking it. Are there any mathlords who have proven that I'm wrong and horribly inefficient?
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What all hooked up to each other? Without knowing how you designed the tracks or how the train is combined together I can't really comment.
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Where does the train stop if you put the engines in the back as pushers. Does the leading edge of the train cargo at the front line up with the stop?
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Tenebrais posted:Yes, that's what he was talking about. He was confused as to which way the train was pointing. I was politely calling him an idiot.
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Judging from the number of google results, FAQ entries, and wiki pages, I'm certainly not the only person to have difficulty setting up the train even with locomotives on both ends. I can't be the only person to have gotten stuck playing the interface instead of the game on the train scenario.Gibbo posted:I was politely calling him an idiot. Would you install a pusher trains mod if it existed?
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ShadowHawk posted:Judging from the number of google results, FAQ entries, and wiki pages, I'm certainly not the only person to have difficulty setting up the train even with locomotives on both ends. I can't be the only person to have gotten stuck playing the interface instead of the game on the train scenario. I suddently understand the Wine GUI
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ShadowHawk posted:Would you install a pusher trains mod if it existed? Trains already are equally happy pushing or pulling.
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I would totally install a mod that makes train engines run backwards at the same speed as forwards, because it makes no sense to assume that this universe has somehow lost the ability to design a diesel-electric transmission.
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I think like everything, trains require some experimentation at first. The back/forwards didn't make sense to me either at first until I hopped in a train and noticed that even without a car, one direction seemed a lot slower to accelerate than another. It didn't click until I started doing stations. That said, that was only my first map with them, I haven't really used trains since then, since back then chain signals didn't exist and now I'm waiting on stock easy-placement to make curved rails not suck to lay down.
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DelphiAegis posted:I think like everything, trains require some experimentation at first. The back/forwards didn't make sense to me either at first until I hopped in a train and noticed that even without a car, one direction seemed a lot slower to accelerate than another. It didn't click until I started doing stations. Version 0.13 will solve that problem by deleting curved rails in the new (awesome) track laying system.
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DmitriX posted:Well, since 0.13 ain't happenin for a while i restarted my server in a new game. It already has a bit of infra setup from the get-go to avoid that whole mining phase. Neat! "Version mismatch, you are running 12.33 server is running 12.35" Oh.
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drunkill posted:Neat! Just opt in into experimental updates if you are on steam? I mean, i do state the version in the server description, specifically to let people know about stuff like that. I usually always run experimental, if at all possible.
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Stereotype posted:I suddently understand the Wine GUI 
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Sage Grimm posted:What all hooked up to each other? Without knowing how you designed the tracks or how the train is combined together I can't really comment. Two locomotives facing the same way followed by 8 wagons. One way track and often two lanes each direction.
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I can only imagine the size of a resource patch that would warrant eight wagons.
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