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chumbler posted:Zenyatta is kind of growing on me and I particularly like his primary and alt fire, but man his poor mobility and dying to literally anything are annoying. Yeah, I've taken to picking him a bit more often lately as well. He can have really frustrating bad streaks, but when he works he's really fun. When it all comes together you're putting out pretty decent healing while your discord orb makes short work of tanks and your main attack kills lighter classes at a surprising rate.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:I just played a quick game on Anubis attack. I picked Widowmaker, and a guy on my team said "A Sniper on offense? Really?". I said "Yes, really, there are some good lanes for offensive snipers," which I know about from playing defense. I wanna do some Symmetra on Attack and see if anyone says anything. Also to see if she can contribute anything. (Probably not much.) Although an escort mission with a car covered in turrets and a Reinhardt defending would be pretty funny.
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Beach Party posted:Only two bad things about Symetra is her lovely legendary costumes. Lesbian CEO or goofy Hindu god. Also people complaining that your picking symetra as attack on a map where you move the payload. From what I've seen on solo queue, enemy teams rarely have an answer for an extremely aggressive attacking symetra. Well you sound like a loving pleasure to be around.
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Kerrrrrrr posted:i got a POTG as genji also! i'm gradually practicing him more so i'm still very bad but i like this video because a) widow gets owned and b) bonus cool plane noise at the end niiice
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Jun 4, 2016 21:40
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Pharrah's epic skins are better than her legendary ones imo.
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you want shitskins ill give you shitskins Zarya The Dawn one is the only one I like~
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Jun 4, 2016 21:42
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Broken Cog posted:Pharrah's epic skins are better than her legendary ones imo. This is true for almost every hero. Mercy's viking skin, Zenyatta's Ra skin and maybe that purple one for Reaper are the only legendaries I like.
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Jun 4, 2016 21:44
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Grammaton posted:I wanna do some Symmetra on Attack and see if anyone says anything. Also to see if she can contribute anything. (Probably not much.) Although an escort mission with a car covered in turrets and a Reinhardt defending would be pretty funny. They do. The pubbie outrage to offensive Symmetra gets old fast. An offensive TP is just as good in Overwatch as in TF2.
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Broken Cog posted:Pharrah's epic skins are better than her legendary ones imo. Look at the poor who doesn't have mechaqueen.
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Jun 4, 2016 21:49
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Just had a KOTH game where I was the only one that tried to get on the point. I went Lucio and got a gold medal for cap time with 0:10 (They camped a Bastion in there). These were Level 50+ people as well.
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Jun 4, 2016 21:50
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Look at the poor who doesn't have mechaqueen. If it was for anyone else it'd be good but sadly Pharah has Anubis which is probably the best skin in the game.
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Jun 4, 2016 21:51
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Look at the poor who doesn't have mechaqueen. I'm more a fan of the Jehuty colors, myself.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Look at the poor who doesn't have mechaqueen. I'm not a fan of the way the mech skins give her a metal jaw
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Broken Cog posted:Pharrah's epic skins are better than her legendary ones imo. Her Legendary outfit is really weird. Symmetra as a Blizzard-designed Kali I can understand but Pharrah with a mish-mash of Native American and First Nation parts just rubs me the wrong way for some reason. Indecisive posted:I'm not a fan of the way the mech skins give her a metal jaw RULES OF NATURE
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Zenyatta may be replacing Mercy as my main hero. Actually I think they play well for dif objectives. Attack go zenyatta, defense go mercy. Lucio if I want to pretend I can play him
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I used my funny money on firefighter and anubis with no regrets
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I'm not going to Pubbie Rage, or even Goon Rage, at people for doing it, but please don't fool yourself into thinking offensive Symmetra is as good as a second healer or a good offensive class.
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Broken Cog posted:Just had a KOTH game where I was the only one that tried to get on the point. I went Lucio and got a gold medal for cap time with 0:10 (They camped a Bastion in there). Sometimes you have to actually tell people what the objective is. I guess some people don't really care and are only in it for flanking fun.
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Kashuno posted:Zenyatta may be replacing Mercy as my main hero. Actually I think they play well for dif objectives. Attack go zenyatta, defense go mercy. Lucio if I want to pretend I can play him You should try Lucio on king of the hill, he's amazing I don't really like using him on the other maps because people get too spread out and I'm not sure where I should be
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Indecisive posted:I'm not a fan of the way the mech skins give her a metal jaw It doesn't show in game or during victory screen, and with the right highlight intro, not on POTG. I hate the metal jaw too but her helmet is sweet as fuckk.
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Thoughtless posted:This is true for almost every hero. I dunno, biker Torb is pretty rad, and Reinhardt has some good ones. I'm sad that Lucio's epic skins are so crappy because he's a ton of fun to play.
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Countblanc posted:I'm not going to Pubbie Rage, or even Goon Rage, at people for doing it, but please don't fool yourself into thinking offensive Symmetra is as good as a second healer or a good offensive class. I get the thinking that people are like "oh hey teleporters ruled on offense in TF2" but Symmetra has to do damage to keep teleporters going at any reasonable rate. She builds meter by people walking into her car washes. Why would anyone expect that to work on offense? Harrow posted:I dunno, biker Torb is pretty rad, and Reinhardt has some good ones. Auditiva is the best non-frog skin he has.
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I might be retarded but what the hell am I supposed to do against 6 torbs on defend point maps like volskaya?
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I'll take a Lucio+Mercy support combo over any other and I think most would agree
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mcvey posted:I'll take a Lucio+Mercy support combo over any other and I think most would agree
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flashman posted:I might be retarded but what the hell am I supposed to do against 6 torbs on defend point maps like volskaya? Junkrat, Pharah or Hanzo taking pot shots at the turrets, Reinhardt shield can hold up decently against turrets, Zarya can bomb them depending on where they're placed, comedy Genji deflect.
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flashman posted:I might be retarded but what the hell am I supposed to do against 6 torbs on defend point maps like volskaya? Torbjörn doesn't exactly chew through shields so Reinhardt works well and Junkrat can just blow them up from behind a corner.
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Just once I'd love a solo queue group to go 2 tank, 2 support, 2 damage. Any time I play against a team that does that I get stomped, and any time I try to double up on support with someone they switch to McCree or Genji.
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Harrow posted:Just once I'd love a solo queue group to go 2 tank, 2 support, 2 damage. Any time I play against a team that does that I get stomped, and any time I try to double up on support with someone they switch to McCree or Genji. I went through an amazingly good 10 game streak of wins with a bunch of people that would build reasonable team comps and didn't needlessly try to chase kills and abandon the objective. We would all tell each other when our ultimates were full and we would layer them well. I want that back
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chumbler posted:Junkrat, Pharah or Hanzo taking pot shots at the turrets, Reinhardt shield can hold up decently against turrets, Zarya can bomb them depending on where they're placed, comedy Genji deflect. Soldier 76 deletes most turrets right away too.
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Help Im Alive posted:You should try Lucio on king of the hill, he's amazing Especially Ilios. Blasting people into spartaholes and off cliffs is so fun.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Soldier 76 deletes most turrets right away too. i only wish i could headshot turrets. not because i could destroy them faster, but because i love headshotting things
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Okay, how the hell do you play Symmetra? Offense or defense, I constantly contribute nothing except a teleporter, occasionally slowing people down with my turrets so that a better teammate can kill them, and even more occasionally getting a laser kill. Nothing feels good with her, which is a shame, because I really love the idea of her kit.
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Grammaton posted:I wanna do some Symmetra on Attack and see if anyone says anything. Also to see if she can contribute anything. (Probably not much.) Although an escort mission with a car covered in turrets and a Reinhardt defending would be pretty funny. I gave that a try one game on Gibraltar. No one complained, but I sure didn't accomplish anything at all. I did personally kill two enemy teleporters, but that was it. The second teleporter I spotted when I snuck into the barracks below the hangar only to see the enemy Symmetra had the same idea I had and placed her own teleporter there. Amazingly, neither she nor anyone else noticed my teleporter there even though I attacked hers right after placing mine and was killed soon after destroying it. Other than that, I was a complete waste of a player slot and managed to get 0 eliminations.
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Bummed I can't get a voice line that says IOWA STATE CYCLONES, but I'll take "Welcome to the Gun Show" as a decent alternative. Also can confirm, Raindancer Pharah owns.
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Broken Cog posted:Just had a KOTH game where I was the only one that tried to get on the point. I went Lucio and got a gold medal for cap time with 0:10 (They camped a Bastion in there). Level doesn't mean anything but time played. Although I do wonder exactly how someone can get to level 50 without figuring out that the red/blue thing is kind of important and you need to do something with it. e: Four characters own bones on KOTH and they are: Lucio, Reaper, Zarya and Winston Winston is the master of contesting points, Lucio can get you there quicker, Reaper works best when a bunch of people are clustered together in one are and Zarya is the god of making that happen. You want to steamroll any KOTH have at least one of all of these in your team.
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blastron posted:Okay, how the hell do you play Symmetra? Offense or defense, I constantly contribute nothing except a teleporter, occasionally slowing people down with my turrets so that a better teammate can kill them, and even more occasionally getting a laser kill. Nothing feels good with her, which is a shame, because I really love the idea of her kit. The two schools of thought for (defensive, first point) Symmetra play are: 1) Block off a side route by making a death wall that the offense can't destroy without walking into it by placing sentries on the ceiling/behind doorways. The advantage to this playstyle is that it means the offense must choose between making a concerted effort to deal with your turret carwash lest their flankers never be able to take that route or to just suck it up and eat a lot of spam going down the main chokepoint. This pairs well with a Junkrat, Soldier 76, and basically anyone else who can make that main choke/path a disgusting quagmire of explosions and bullets. 2) Scatter your turrets in groups of 2-3 behind walls down the main path. Since this is where most enemy pushes will come from (meaning their high health tanks - the people your turrets don't threaten - will be here) your turrets won't last long, but unlike the first strategy they will almost certainly do damage quickly and distract people for a moment. Best case is making a Reinhardt turn around/drop his shield to hit them, giving your team precious seconds to obliterate everyone Rein was previously protecting, but against organized teams the Rein will just keep blocking while his team deals with them. The advantage here is that your ult will likely charge faster and, as you noted, your teleporter is your biggest asset. Beyond turret placement your goal is to figure out where the offense is coming from and shoot M2 orbs into their slow, meaty characters from a safe distance. M1 is really only for team fights on the objective when having your body on the point is more important than safely spamming to build ult. Against individual enemies, especially 200-HP ones, your ray just won't amp up quickly enough to be meaningful. Your best bet against those heroes is to weave orbs, taps of M1, and quick melee and bob in and out of their effective ranges since basically every 200 Hp character has better dm than you. Here's a video of Internethulk, almost definitely the best Symmetra player in the world, doing that: http://plays.tv/video/57477544c35c4a43d8/best-symmetra-na-
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blastron posted:Okay, how the hell do you play Symmetra? Offense or defense, I constantly contribute nothing except a teleporter, occasionally slowing people down with my turrets so that a better teammate can kill them, and even more occasionally getting a laser kill. Nothing feels good with her, which is a shame, because I really love the idea of her kit. for getting kills, try jumping around like an idiot right in people's faces. It's the only way I've been able to get consistant kills with her lovely gun
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Internet Kraken posted:I unironically want them to buff his base movespeed. Every other healer has some kind of mobility skill anyways and Zenyatta just gets nothing. You can also get hooked during transcendence. I've done that before to pull a Zenyatta into my team just before his invulnerability ended.
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