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hangedman1984 posted:https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/739375193647353857 Nice to not put that in any context or anything Piers...
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James Garfield posted:Racism, the noted concept invented by tumblr in 2015 I thought Trotsky created it?
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Bill Kristol is an astonishingly wrong man. I mean, I thought it was a joke at first, but as time goes on this guy is just always, always wrong. It's inexplicable. It's like he lost the lottery with each number one digit too high.
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Crowsbeak posted:I thought Trotsky created it? Obama, in conjunction with Soros wake UP sheeple
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lite_sleepr posted:
How sad is it that you counted?
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the last 3 pages saw the word racis(t)(m) used 65 times
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The Larch posted:How sad is it that you counted? If you do ctrl+f for the word it'll tell you how many times it shows up on that page. Not quite as sad
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:If you do ctrl+f for the word it'll tell you how many times it shows up on that page. Not quite as sad He still has to add the three pages together.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:I have a feeling French found out about his hat being tossed into the ring at the exact same moment everyone else did. Bill Kristol is honestly that stupid. French spent a while week fighting a fundamental law of existence. It's actually very impressive. But in the end, the speed of light can no more change in a vacuum than Bill Bristol can be right.
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:If you do ctrl+f for the word it'll tell you how many times it shows up on that page. Not quite as sad Also, I assume, filter out repeats of the word from quoted posts
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James Garfield posted:What happens if Bill Kristol and Dick Morris disagree on a true-false question? Go away Buddhist monk, we're talking about racism.
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James Garfield posted:What happens if Bill Kristol and Dick Morris disagree on a true-false question?
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James Garfield posted:What happens if Bill Kristol and Dick Morris disagree on a true-false question? A third correct option is spontaneously created.
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I just saw the picture and was briefly disappointed that Bob Mould wasn't running for president.
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ahahah so remember the other day when Trump was proudly showing off "his African American" and his rally? Turns out the dude isn't even a Trump supporter. He's been going to rallies for both the Dems and Republicans out of curiosity.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:ahahah so remember the other day when Trump was proudly showing off "his African American" and his rally? Turns out the dude isn't even a Trump supporter. He's been going to rallies for both the Dems and Republicans out of curiosity. Probably a little less uncertain about things now
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Governor Cuomo has opened a new battle in the ongoing battle for America's pro-Israel policy. And the next Senate Majority Leader is on board. Reason and the liberal Free Speech Luminaries are going to be all over thiMFFFFGRLHAHAHA I can't even,
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:ahahah so remember the other day when Trump was proudly showing off "his African American" and his rally? Turns out the dude isn't even a Trump supporter. He's been going to rallies for both the Dems and Republicans out of curiosity. Amazing
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Kokoro Wish posted:It's not just an internet phenomenon really. The Domocratic party in particular is making some toxic use of ID politics and have been since maybe 2003-5. Entire thread needs to familiarize themselves with these things. That is all.
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hangedman1984 posted:https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/739375193647353857 Does Pier's support Trump, or is this just another step in his ' Let my white, British rear end condescend to you about black culture and race relations in the US' parade?
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Kokoro Wish posted:It's not just an internet phenomenon really. The Domocratic party in particular is making some toxic use of ID politics and have been since maybe 2003-5. acting like this is anything new is loving retarded hope this help
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Teddybear posted:Bill Kristol is an astonishingly wrong man. I mean, I thought it was a joke at first, but as time goes on this guy is just always, always wrong. It's inexplicable. It's like he lost the lottery with each number one digit too high. Just think, somewhere out there in the quantum universe is a reality where he's been nothing but right.
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citybeatnik posted:Just think, somewhere out there in the quantum universe is a reality where he's been nothing but right. There's also one where Hitler did nothing wrong.
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DemeaninDemon posted:There's also one where Hitler did nothing wrong. Likely the same universe.
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Crowsbeak posted:I was asking for why he felt the left should oppose it. Not why the National Review would.  Again, it depends on the scenario. Something like a wider Americorps in exchange for student loan forgiveness while providing room, board, insurance and a stipend? Sounds wonderful to me. "Nebulous desire to make Those Kids do Hard Work in order to Become Nebulously More American," this I'm not convinced on.
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Nessus posted:The Thirteenth Amendment forbids involuntary servitude save as punishment for a duly convicted crime. Why not both? Also that argument I have heard made by tax whiners.
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Crowsbeak posted:Why not both? Also that argument I have heard made by tax whiners. What's the benefit of making Those Kids do Hard Work? Sell me on this. Is it to save money on hiring other workers to do it? What's the lesson you're teaching them about their government there? If this is meant to be an educational program, what's your curriculum, what's your planned goal? e: To be clear, subsidized apprenticeships or something, that'd be great; you can make these things work, but I feel like a lot of these proposed programs are meant to be punitive (teaching Those Kids how to Love America) first and foremost. Nessus fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jun 6, 2016 |
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Who would have guessed that a guy who didn't have a wikipedia entry a week and a half ago isn't running for President.
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Job skills like getting used to going to work on time and following work policies are useful lifeskills, but regular school teaches those pretty well. And special education often makes sure to teach those skills specifically. Government youth work programs are not something I'm a fan of, and it reminds me of that time Newt Gingrich said schoolkids in poor neighborhoods should clean the school to learn the "dignity of work." The implicit message feeding into all kinds of stereotypes.
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Nessus posted:I think you'd have a more compelling Constitutional case if it's "if you are between ages X and Y, you're being required to join this labor program." Remind me why is taking pride in ones country bad. Well I can see if one is an extreme individualist one might think so but then extreme individualism is what gets us tax whiners, and Sovcits.
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lite_sleepr posted:
Shockingly, aggressive public racism from the GOP presidential nominee prompts discussion of same in US politics thread.
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Crowsbeak posted:Remind me why is taking pride in ones country bad. Well I can see if one is an extreme individualist one might think so but then extreme individualism is what gets us tax whiners, and Sovcits. Your a dumbass. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Meg From Family Guy posted:Your a dumbass. Wow Lowtax has made a lot of money off you.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Governor Cuomo has opened a new battle in the ongoing battle for America's pro-Israel policy. And the next Senate Majority Leader is on board. gently caress Israel is the worst goddamn country and I wish Obama was president for life simply because he's the only chance we'd have of dumping that worthless country to the curb.
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Meg From Family Guy posted:Your a dumbass. You're*
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Whole it is fundamentally un-American, I'm a fan of Rousseau so having the government play an active role in shaping the souls of its citizens is something I'm OK with. Arguments for federal service basically stem from that line of thinking.
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Meg please go reread amergin posts. He's so much better than you at this. He's Kershaw and you're not even playing A short season.
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OtherworldlyInvader posted:Can you elaborate? Even if it is more complicated to manage, the increased convenience, lowered costs, and increased turnout is worth it. Vote by mail is wildly popular in Oregon, Washington, and Colorado, and there has been no evidence of voter fraud being a serious problem. It's just a mess on the back end to manage -- as someone who's canvassed votes, I am sensitive to that.
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Nessus posted:I think you'd have a more compelling Constitutional case if it's "if you are between ages X and Y, you're being required to join this labor program." As an admitted Americorps partisan and alum, by far the best dividend of (ideally implemented) mandatory post-high school national service is in forcibly exposing the program participants to segments of American society they would not otherwise consider or interact with rather than in the products of the work itself. A year of close, intense, demanding work with a small, very diverse team of peers betters everyone involved and makes retaining prejudice literally next to impossible, especially if the service involves a social dimension, which in current Americorps is all service. Plus, Americorps pushes a professional development curriculum very hard; we had regular personal finance seminars, resume-building workshops, etc. They leverage corporate sponsorship hard for preferential networking and internship opportunities. That's not to say the work isn't or shouldn't be meaningful, but it's def. not the primum bonum, at least w/r/t making it mandatory. The main goal is guaranteeing as part of growing up American a genuine prolonged perspective-exploding experience of The Other, whoever that Other may be for you, and forcing you to accept, love, and rely on that Other if for no other reason than sheer, emotionally-draining, 60-hours-per-week exhaustion. And then getting hosed up at parties with and snuck into bars by the Other on the weekend  Speaking of those sponsors, the weaknesses to this formulation of national service are pretty apparent and large. It's a relatively expensive program funded 33/33/33 by government, corporate sponsorship, and private donation, and that would really only get worse with more administrative overhead. It's presently both very selective and self-selective, meaning that the vast majority of program participants are enthusiastic about being there and those who find it miserable exit quickly. Americorps would definitely be a hard, hard sell to the greater hordes of uncouth youth. Corporate sponsors will typically as part of their contribution fund a service project and encourage/coerce their employees to do a volunteering day--does this count as reverse-corvee? I once led a work party of Capital One suits breaking up scrub for a new urban garden. Anyway, in an ideal theoretical scheme I think the corvee labor issue is sidestepped if you keep national service confined to the scope of government, volunteer, and government-funded-nonprofit work. A mandatory national service program could theoretically be designed to interface with a similar expansion of NPOs, community organizations, arts centers, etc. that would both utilize the greatly expanded temporary-term labor force and provide employment and specialization opportunities to eat up qualified alums, if you want to go big-government ham on conjuring a massive social services employment sector from thin air. You'd probably end up with an education/HHS/HUD budget larger than defense on your balance sheet, but  HookedOnChthonics fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Jun 6, 2016 |
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