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Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.

GSD posted:

Makes sense!

Did the choice of spooky dead emperors (and spooky dead not emperors) vote actually impact much?

All the dream votes meant something, but I'm a bit reluctant to get into specifics when a lot of that will be paid off in HoI IV (I mean, I'm hoping, I haven't played it yet obviously so I don't know how the story ends). I will say that the votes at the International-- both the dream ones and the awake ones-- were as much about what sort of things the rest of our story would be about.

I'll say more about the emperor vote in particular after the LP is done, if somebody asks me again so I remember to answer it months from now. :v:

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GSD
May 10, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Empress Theonora posted:

All the dream votes meant something, but I'm a bit reluctant to get into specifics when a lot of that will be paid off in HoI IV (I mean, I'm hoping, I haven't played it yet obviously so I don't know how the story ends). I will say that the votes at the International-- both the dream ones and the awake ones-- were as much about what sort of things the rest of our story would be about.

I'll say more about the emperor vote in particular after the LP is done, if somebody asks me again so I remember to answer it months from now. :v:

Totally fair as a response. I had just thought the the one particular spooky emperors choice was pick a fascism flavor :v: so was curious on that.

Luhood
Nov 13, 2012
Well, we need the Somalians to join the Chinese Pact, or else we might have a hard time getting some conflict going. In the same vein we need some presence in India to get some blood boiling. Thus ##Somalian Patriarchs## and a ##Müllerist India## will together manage to spice things up a bit on the world stage, what with both the Capitalist Faction and the Red Rose Pact getting some members on the wrong side of the world.

Regarding Russia... from what I can remember Russia is rather friendly with China, but are they really part of the Chinese Anarcho-Liberal Bloc ideology wise? Goethe would spin in his grave if we were to allow it! ##MAXIMUM ROME, HO!!!!## Besides, we need something to get China and Valeria to regard each other as enemies.

With that, from what I've gathered there are four rather big blocs in ByzVerse as opposed to OTL's three: The Communal Councils of the RRP, the Neo-Roman Facists of the WRE, the Chinese Pangalists, and last and perhaps even least Japan and their Liberal Bloc. Outside of them four there's a rather big Neutral Bloc consisting mostly of Isolationists in one way or another, mostly non-commie Socialists and Absolute Monarchies. Any thoughts on how to deal with those? I mean having some Neutral Powers just ducking for cover doesn't sound all horrible, but from what I've gathered there was a fair number of them.

Which ones are there anyhow? Could you jog our memory a bit?

Empress Theonora posted:

thanks a lot, Britain, for making this a possibility thanks to your dogged insistence on not beheading Victoria von Habsburg.

Also, do you know how much I will laugh if the first thing Britain does come HoI is beheading Victoria? A whole drat lot, that's for sure!

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
##Constitution
##Müllerism
##Third Rome


(Also, I vote for cute space lesbians by the time we get to Stellaris)

Prince Orcus
Mar 1, 2016
##Restore the ancient merchant republic!
##Müllerism with Indian Characteristics!
These two should help stir the pot quite a bit, but as far as Russia...
##Let's just... stop getting blown up constantly!
Russia deserves a bit of a break, it's true, and splendid isolation will let them try to hop onto the winning bandwagon to try to gain land/prestige back. Give them bonuses for Lend/Lease or volunteers if they want to up their military capabilities without actually getting in the way.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
##MerchantRepublic
##Mullerism
##MaximumRome

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
1) The Somalian Republic: ##Write a democratic constitution.
2) Marathas: ##Müllerism with Indian Characteristics
3) Russia, Third Rome: ##Status quo

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Empress Theonora posted:

For a while, extremely early on, I thought vaguely of making Unitas evolve into our fascist party, but that was before I got what Unitas was really all about. :v: Fascism = Rome was pretty solid since, oh, the 1807 revolution or so, which was the earliest I started to think about it seriously. The specifics of fascism (Valeria as gestalt cult of personality, remaking history before everyone's eyes, the vague involvement of the Black Chamber, etc.) weren't really planned in advance, but there wasn't really another plan either-- that stuff was just the outgrowth of things that developed organically in V2-- Maxamed Muzzafar's "reign", everyone grappling with their relationships with the past, spooky dead emperors coming back and haunting enlightened modern communists, the complete failure of the last Komnenoi to restore the Roman Empire through more traditional and less weird means, the Byzantines disowning their Roman past and leaving that legacy up for grabs to any demagogue who happened to pass by, etc.

For a while, I thought that Pangolism was supposed to be the basis for fascism, what with his fascination with machine guns mowing down plebs and all.

tunapirate
Aug 15, 2015
## Restore the Ancient Merchant Republic
## Indo-Mullerism
## Rome 3: Rome Hardest

(also, I would like to second the call for cute space lesbians)

StrifeHira
Nov 7, 2012

I'll remind you that I have a very large stick.
##Write a democratic constitution

##For twelve years you have been asking: Who is Rishma Sharqi?

##Third Rome

(##Space Lesbians)

Glenn Zimmerman
Apr 9, 2009
##Constitution.
##For twelve years you have been asking: Who is Rishma Sharqi?
##We're called Third Rome

Another Otter
May 14, 2012
##Write a democratic constitution

##For twelve years you have been asking: Who is Rishma Sharqi?

##Third Rome


I want to have fun, a stable and sane world offers less chance for this.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
##MerchantRepublic
##Mullerism
##MaximumRome

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.
CURRENT VOTECOUNT

Somalia
##Restore the ancient merchant republic. "Just because we finally bury our figurehead does not mean we relinquish the reins of power."
Lord Cyrahzax
AJ_Impy
nothing to seehere
Luhood
Prince Orcus
Chief Savage Man
tunapirate
JT Jag

##Write a democratic constitution.
GSD
Rubix Squid
TinTower
GunnerJ
StrifeHira
Glenn Zimmerman
Another Otter

Hindustan
##Müllerism with Indian Characteristics
GSD
Rubix Squid
AJ_Impy
nothing to seehere
Luhood
TinTower
Prince Orcus
GunnerJ
Chief Savage Man
tunapirate
JT Jag

##Let's just keep everything the same.
Lord Cyrahzax

##For twelve years you have been asking: Who is Rishma Sharqi? "I want to have fun, a stable and sane world offers less chance for this."
StrifeHira
Glenn Zimmerman
Another Otter

Russia
##We're called Third Rome for a reason.
GSD
Lord Cyrahzax
AJ_Impy
nothing to seehere
Luhood
TinTower
Chief Savage Man
tunapirate
StrifeHira
Glenn Zimmerman
Another Otter
JT Jag

##Let's just... stop getting blown up constantly. "Russia deserves a bit of a break,"
Prince Orcus

##Status quo.
Rubix Squid
GunnerJ




##Cute Space Lesbians
TinTower
tunapirate
StrifeHira

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?
##Write a democratic constitution.

##Müllerism with Indian Characteristics

##Let's just... stop getting blown up constantly.

Poor Russia, I feel a little bad that we killed hundreds of thousands of their troops in every battle. I would think that they'd want to keep their heads down for this.

Also, I assume that there's no need to vote on space lesbians, but just in case I'll toss my vote in too.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
##Democracy!

##Who is john galt Rishma Sharqi

##Third Rome

I want to see maximum boom.

cokerpilot
Apr 23, 2010

Battle Brothers! Stop coming to meetings drunk and trying to adopt Tevery Best!

Lord General! Stop standing on the table and making up stupid operation names!

Emperor, why do I put up with these people?
##Restore the ancient merchant republic!

##Keep everything the same!

##Let's just... stop getting blown up constantly.

Kayten
Jan 10, 2012

The tiniest of Tims!
##Restore the merchant republic
##Indian Mullerism
##Let's stop dying already


Poor Russia can never catch a break.

tabris
Feb 17, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
##Restore the ancient merchant republic
##Müllerism with Indian Characteristics
##Third Rome

##Lesbians in space

Aeromancia
Jul 23, 2013
##Restore the ancient merchant republic
##Müllerism with Indian Characteristics
##Third Rome

Soup du Jour
Sep 8, 2011

I always knew I'd die with a headache.

##Write a democratic constitution.
##For twelve years you have been asking: Who is Rishma Sharqi?
##Let's just... stop getting blown up constantly.


Russia deserves a break, for once.

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

##Restore the ancient merchant republic
##Mullerism
##Third Rome

ZiegeDame
Aug 21, 2005

YUKIMURAAAA!
You know, I don't have any strong enough opinions on any of those options to vote.

Except ##Space Lesbians. I feel very strongly about space lesbians.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
TBH, ##Space Lesbians is more or less a given, I mean I figured I didn't have to explicitly vote for it. It was just understood.

Angry Salami
Jul 27, 2013

Don't trust the skull.
##Restore the ancient merchant republic. Democracy is for foreigners. Let Somalia be Somalia!

##Müllerism with Indian Characteristics Bring me the hunkiest man in the subcontinent!

##We're called Third Rome for a reason. We were stabbed in the back! Also, front, sides, and most body parts. Anyway, it's time for revenge!

RagnarokZ
May 14, 2004

Emperor of the Internet
##Restore the ancient merchant republic. It's time to party!

##Müllerism with Indian Characteristics Party Hard!

##We're called Third Rome for a reason. And then blow up, again.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
I don't know what I'm voting for but I'll get caught up quickly.

##Write a democratic constitution.
##Write a democratic constitution.
##Write a democratic constitution.

##Give lesbians in space the right to vote.

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


##Restore the merchant republic
##Indian Mullerism
##Let's stop dying already


Poor Russia.

MinistryofLard
Mar 22, 2013


Goblin babies did nothing wrong.


##Restore the ancient merchant republic
##Müllerism with Indian Characteristics
##Third Rome


The Somalian Merchant Republic was the coolest thing.

Also if we're discussing what went into fascism - where did the 137 year long reign of Muxamed Muzzafar come from? Was it just a case of the transition between dictators being impossible to manage or was there something else going on?

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.


Democracy
Who is John Galt
Stop dying
Space Lesbians

Erwin the German
May 30, 2011

:3
##Restore the ancient merchant republic
##Müllerism with Indian Characteristics
##Third Rome


##Yuritopia is a Planet out there, and it shall be found

Archaeology Hat
Aug 10, 2009
##Write a democratic constitution.
##For twelve years you have been asking: Who is Rishma Sharqi?
##Let's just... stop getting blown up constantly.

Pacho
Jun 9, 2010
##Restore the ancient merchant republic
##Müllerism with Indian Characteristics
##Third Rome
##Space Lesbians

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
##Restore the Merchant Houses
##Müllerism
##Third Rome


I want this to be as bloody as possible.

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.
byzmod progress report:
nothing works, i think i broke hoi iv, and every single flag i resized was a 24 bit tga instead of a 32 bit tga so hoi iv refuses to read them

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.


It loads!!

(EDIT: If you're wondering what happened to Iouliana Erdebir, I just set leader ideologies wrong so we have our democratic leader instead for some reason)

Empress Theonora fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Jun 7, 2016

punched my v-card at camp
Sep 4, 2008

Broken and smokin' where the infrared deer plunge in the digital snake
##Restore the ancient merchant republic
##Müllerism with Indian Characteristics
##Let's just... stop getting blown up constantly.

Aside from any sympathy for the Russians who get murked by the hundreds of thousands in every war, I think having Russia stay neutral would be good for the game in general. Having a potential major player NOT join the initial war and having their support be a thing that factions vie for would add a layer to the midgame and sort of offer a historical analogy for the role of America, which would be interesting.

Srebrenica Surprise
Aug 23, 2008

"L-O-V-E's just another word I never learned to pronounce."
##Restore the ancient merchant republic
##Müllerism with Indian Characteristics
##Let's just... stop getting blown up constantly
##Everyone Is Cute Space Lesbians Eventually


I like the neutrality idea for Russia for pretty much the same reasons

TwinkleToad
Aug 6, 2015
##Restore the ancient merchant republic.
##For twelve years you have been asking: Who is Rishma Sharqi? Does the Marathas blowing themselves up create a Spanish Civil War scenario? It could be interesting having proxy war stuff going on over there.
##Let's just... stop getting blown up constantly. I like Russia catching a break, and also having a big power sit out the war. Plus I imagine at this point there's a decently sized anti-war movement in Russia.

##space lesbians and also earth lesbians

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GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
##Write a democratic constitution.
##For twelve years you have been asking: Who is Rishma Sharqi?
##Let's just... stop getting blown up constantly.

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