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many johnnys posted:Katana critical bonus, so what get a load of this: quadruple katana
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Bongo Bill posted:get a load of this: quadruple katana i'm seeing double. four katanas.
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Jun 3, 2016 03:51
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Why do people want 99 battle chain specifically? Is there a chievo or something? I just did berserk+bp recovery when I was grinding money.
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Jun 3, 2016 03:52
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Rascyc posted:Why do people want 99 battle chain specifically? Is there a chievo or something? There isn't. I guess people want to just because they can, not because they have to. There are a few places where it's easy to set up. The Berserk room in the hot spring grotto for one. You could also set up a BP Battery (If you can deal with the fact that the speed system was made worse in this game) and do things that way.
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Jun 3, 2016 03:53
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Bongo Bill posted:get a load of this: quadruple katana Then multitask triggers. Probably not the best use for my support slots, but I still laugh every time.
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Jun 3, 2016 03:59
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DalaranJ posted:Then multitask triggers. Probably not the best use for my support slots, but I still laugh every time. If you can reach the point where basic attacks are the most efficient damage source, then Multitask is the best way to multiply it. This takes a lot of buns though.
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Jun 3, 2016 04:02
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RoboCicero posted:Bishop is a really cool class because it's a healing class that functions totally independent of spellpower. It's probably a bit too good at that, honestly, but it does mean as long as someone has the MP for it even physical dudes can use it. I love that too. Made Magnolia a Guardian/Bishop, gave me a healing tank.
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Jun 3, 2016 18:34
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Dr. Fetus posted:Actually it doesn't. And even then, it won't cause Firstborn to be knocked down. Huh. I guess I was misled. I thought they were a trustworthy source. 
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Jun 3, 2016 20:23
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I ended up clearing out most of the post game with this setup: Dark Knight / Thief. Thief was just for stealing, honestly not sure why I bothered with Prince of Thieves since most of the post game stuff just had elixirs (was there ever anything to grab?). Dark Knight just did the usual raging. Also turns out that the 50% self buff doom status can be negated by Status Barrier from Astro. Catmancer / Kaiser, using a staff. I really liked Catmancy for most of the game but it never really put out great damage numbers for me after the mid game so I ended up just turning it into a BP battery once I saw using the Advanced Catmastery stuff counted as two items using the item trigger. So basically just pop Rejuvenation to restore party-wide BP (including yourself) and then cycle three vigor tonics to do it again. Kaiser was mostly just for tossing out the crit buff to help the Dark Knight, and some other dumb niche things. Time Mage/Summoner. Self-explanatory Astro/Guardian. Status Barrier / Elemental Barrier / spamming soul mirrors. All in all I had the most fun in the mid game when I was still putting things together. The end game was pretty silly easy. I never really got to enjoy Yokai, never bun armed, and I never put forth the effort to grind out most of the level 11 job abilities. Not sure I honestly want to bother, there doesn't seem to be any other content aside from fighting max level Ba'als in your moon base minigame?
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Jun 3, 2016 23:55
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Summoner/freelancer most of the time. Summon rain/ mimic all day
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Jun 4, 2016 02:11
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Summoner/Time is what I use entirely because Summoner has S with rods while Time Mages have A. I should play more with Yokai since dropping Envy or something to debuff the enemy before going into spellcraft with the ~aja spells seems like a hoot, but then I'd still need a Patissier to add elemental weaknesses, and why not Piestorm for the debuff if that's the case? Rascyc posted:I really liked Catmancy for most of the game but it never really put out great damage numbers for me after the mid game Maybe it's just me, but it picked up after level 11 stuff between Meow to the Max and Fencer's Bloody Wolf, along with the Excalibur II and Luminous Robe and Patissier brute-forcing a light weakness. Death Spiral was dealing 6k a hit for about 25k each use, and Dragonlord Strike under bravely second got 107k. Death Spiral would be an assured 39,996 a pop with Overlord, now that I think about it. And Edea still has White Wind and Vigor Tonic handy on the side. I could run Catmancer/Fencer instead of the other way around and have earth-elemental Death Spirals off of Earthbreaker, now that I think about it...
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Jun 4, 2016 03:20
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This game is absurdly good all-around. My only complaints are really the one-or-the-other sidequests(I'm on Ch. 5 so I Know, but still my crippling indecision  ) and the soundtrack which let's face it had some pretty loving big shoes to fill(BS's soundtrack is merely "good" instead of "the best soundtrack ever made", it's by no means bad though!)I do love how !Mix has become the legendary uber power. Even a lovely version based around baking is somehow the destroyer of worlds. I got good use out of Catmancy just for Panzerlied/Perforate/White Wind, having a lot of different roles in one moveset is really useful. EDIT: Also Undo HP is The Rudest Skill. Yinlock fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Jun 4, 2016 |
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Jun 4, 2016 20:38
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The thing that makes me saddest about this game is that the pun of nekomancer just does not translate to English.
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Jun 4, 2016 21:14
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neongrey posted:The thing that makes me saddest about this game is that the pun of nekomancer just does not translate to English. Oh my god is that the Japanese name
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Jun 4, 2016 21:40
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Oh my god is that the Japanese name Nah, the Japanese name is something like "Cat Master."
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Jun 4, 2016 21:48
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I still call it that
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Jun 4, 2016 21:50
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ImpAtom posted:Nah, the Japanese name is something like "Cat Master." It's neko-tsukai, literally cat-user. The generic word for a wizard in Japanese is mahou-tsukai, magic-user (though the Bravely Second Wizard is spelled out in katakana). It may as well be nekomancer.
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Jun 5, 2016 05:52
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I'm extra disappointed now.
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Jun 5, 2016 08:38
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can I play this game without playing Bravely Default? I'm intrigued by this game and I need something new and different to play
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Jun 6, 2016 00:50
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Carlosologist posted:can I play this game without playing Bravely Default? I'm intrigued by this game and I need something new and different to play You can. You can just imagine you're as lost as Yew is when it comes to certain past elements. The game is a direct sequel and it features a lot of recurring characters, but Second gives you a recap of Default right at the very beginning. In fact, if you've never played Default, it will spoil the ending of Default for you. Two of the party members in Second are from Default, and they'll reference the past, while trying to explain it to the other two. Honestly, I think it can work just fine as a self-contained title.
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Jun 6, 2016 00:54
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Carlosologist posted:can I play this game without playing Bravely Default? I'm intrigued by this game and I need something new and different to play Here's a list of the things I would have liked better clarified if I hadn't b=played Bravely Default. - Pope Agnes has a poor sense of direction That's it, list over. Actually, you're better off not knowing some things about Bravely Default because I feel like they cleaned up the tone a bit in second. For example, the first game features a scene where two teenage sisters murder each other in cold blood over a hair accessory. Knowing that will not improve your enjoyment of Bravely Second at all.
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Jun 6, 2016 01:28
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I think it'd be cooler to play it without Default myself. There will be about three things that come up that'll probably leave you confused but just ask us if you hit those points and care enough. I doubt you will though, they are so minor. Like a character name thrown randomly in a sentence etc.
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Jun 6, 2016 07:40
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Finally beat the game and I loved that moment where the final boss fucks with you and tries to delete your save data. That poor bastard didn't stand a chance to quad wield ninja Edea with hawkeye warheads. It's a shame that ba'als were underutilized and the character special move themes are nowhere near as good as they were in default but overall I really liked it.
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Jun 6, 2016 07:41
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I'd play Default first because Default->Second works fine, but the reverse would be a lot worse. A good chunk of why Default goes from a good game to a great game for me relies on a plot twist Second spoils within the first minute.
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Jun 6, 2016 08:09
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Also, Default has some of the best music for a JRPG in ages. Second's is still good, don't get me wrong, but very little could live up to That Person's Name Is. Plus... Let's face it, it's way more fun to figure out the twist on your own than having it spelled out for you at the start of the sequel.
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Jun 6, 2016 09:07
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Default has the huge glaring issue of a terrible period in the game (people call it the second half but it's shorter than that). It gets really boring for a while
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Jun 6, 2016 09:23
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It's true but it's mostly fixed by not doing the sidequests in chapter 6 (and maybe chapter 5). So, that's my advice to new Default players: skip the sidequests in chapter 6, and maybe chapter 5 if you get bored in the middle of them.
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Jun 6, 2016 09:35
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Regalingualius posted:Also, Default has some of the best music for a JRPG in ages. Second's is still good, don't get me wrong, but very little could live up to That Person's Name Is. Controversial opinion: I like the new asterisk boss theme better than He Of The Name.
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Jun 6, 2016 09:49
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Also, The Bravely Default asterisk boss music is still in this game. Another controversial opinion: Bravely Default's music is actually pretty boring, except for the one boss tune that everyone loves.
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Jun 6, 2016 12:51
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I think it's main problem is that it's too bombastic. Like every song is some critical, decisive boss fight music. Which works pretty drat well for Wicked Flight, not so much for the one you hear for most of the bosses. I actually found myself liking the returning music besides that one a lot, like the first time you hear the "normal" boss music (even if you can't actually hear it then).
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Jun 6, 2016 13:19
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Leofish posted:Another controversial opinion: Bravely Default's music is actually pretty boring, except for the one boss tune that everyone loves. Except that's every boss tune. All of them, precious darlings. Also, the random encounter music. There is not a millisecond in battle where music is not great (bravely second the gameplay mechanic does not have music but it's stopping time so milliseconds do not pass  ).The town themes are so great Bravely Second just had to use them all again. And it actually manages to have good cave music, something JRPGs have failed to do before and since. I mean, it's telling that when Edea enters in Bravely Second, it doesn't play her new special move theme, it falls back on good ol' Baby Bird.
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Jun 6, 2016 13:20
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Plus that moment involving you-know-who's theme during the final sidequest in Second. 
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Jun 6, 2016 16:44
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I'm maybe 4 or 5 hours in and I really like it so far. The combat is simple enough to understand, the characters are charming. Just one question, no one character is better suited to a job right? Right now I have Yew in Wizard, Edea in Charioteer, and Tiz and Magnolia in Freelancer at the moment
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Jun 6, 2016 18:18
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Carlosologist posted:I'm maybe 4 or 5 hours in and I really like it so far. The combat is simple enough to understand, the characters are charming. Just one question, no one character is better suited to a job right? Right now I have Yew in Wizard, Edea in Charioteer, and Tiz and Magnolia in Freelancer at the moment Characters have very, very, very slightly different aptitudes. Please ignore them and do whatever.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:36
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That said you've already fallen into the correct ones anyway.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:39
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Carlosologist posted:I'm maybe 4 or 5 hours in and I really like it so far. The combat is simple enough to understand, the characters are charming. Just one question, no one character is better suited to a job right? Right now I have Yew in Wizard, Edea in Charioteer, and Tiz and Magnolia in Freelancer at the moment The differences are practically nonexistant between the characters. We're talking the most marginal of margins. They are pretty much all the same, so just give whoever whatever jobs you think fit.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:42
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I got to the part where I've got all but 3? of the asterisks and the game wants me to basically get the compass again. I feel like the game has started to lose it's steam at this point.
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Jun 6, 2016 19:28
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I'm astonished anyone could see the transition into the second act and think the game is losing steam The game does lose steam imo but only in the actual finale which you're still a decent distance from. e: I guess you just came off of sidequest hell, so it's more understandable. That's the last part like that though cheetah7071 fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Jun 6, 2016 |
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Jun 6, 2016 19:30
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I got to the part where I've got all but 3? of the asterisks and the game wants me to basically get the compass again. I feel like the game has started to lose it's steam at this point. Much like the beginning of the chapter: it doesn't play out the way it did before either.
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Jun 6, 2016 19:47
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Also, make sure to have someone with Thief's skillset equipped for the boss at the end of that dungeon.
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