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The Walrus posted:sounds like a great way to give someone a seizure You say this now but there's an entire movement to feeling like your on drugs from listening to music. VR is just the next step to give mental addicts their fix. I'm still waiting for a Vice episode where they subject some LSD addicts to vr just to see what happens.
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Waiting for the obligatory VR Rez reboot.
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sliderule posted:Waiting for the obligatory VR Rez reboot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEuL3nZz9_w
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Thor-Stryker posted:You say this now but there's an entire movement to feeling like your on drugs from listening to music. Wasn't there some weird like meditative drug-like experience in VR that a bunch of people ranted and raved about but was never released? gently caress what was it called?!
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Jun 6, 2016 17:40
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Edge of Nowhere just released on the Oculus Store. Looks pretty interesting but I'm not into horror games. Or the oculus store.
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Jun 6, 2016 17:41
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House of the Dying Sun (the game formerly known as Enemy Starfighter) goes into early access on Steam tomorrow and I highly recommend checking it out if you are at all interested in shooting spaceships.
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Jun 6, 2016 17:47
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Don't buy Oculus exclusive titles. Don't support that dumb ideology. Find other ways to play the title you are interested in, never buy anything on Oculus Home.
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Jun 6, 2016 17:48
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Knifegrab posted:Don't buy Oculus exclusive titles. Don't support that dumb ideology. Find other ways to play the title you are interested in, never buy anything on Oculus Home. I'm just going to buy it on the Oculus store because I have an Oculus and would like to play it today.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:38
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Spruchy posted:I'm just going to buy it on the Oculus store because I have an Oculus and would like to play it today. Can't wait for the VR future where all content is split by what HMD you own  Idiots and selfish dumb dumbs like this are why Facebook is going to be successful in turning the open ecosystem of the PC into a console-like exclusive nightmare. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jun 6, 2016 18:39
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Oh lol edge of nowhere is just a bog standard third person horror, but the camera that normally would follow is in VR, whoa man, such good use of VR! Something tells me its like a spooky luckey's tail (Completely middle of the road game with no reason being in VR being crammed into VR for reasons...)
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Jun 6, 2016 18:44
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A PS exclusive?!?! N... no!  e: Any word on Trance Vibrator support? I'm asking for a friend. Tan Dumplord fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Jun 6, 2016 |
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Jun 6, 2016 18:45
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Knifegrab posted:Can't wait for the VR future where all content is split by what HMD you own What if I got all the headsets?
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Spruchy posted:What if I got all the headsets? You're still encouraging a really dumb and bad paradigm shift congratulations!
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Jun 6, 2016 18:52
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Knifegrab posted:You're still encouraging a really dumb and bad paradigm shift congratulations! So is there anyway for me to play this game without being responsible for the great VR War?
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Jun 6, 2016 18:54
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Just stop posting in this thread Knifegrab. You're going to make it miserable for everyone until you get probated. Like every other time this has happened.
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Valve updated the Lab today to add new game modes and leaderboards to Xortex, Longbow, and Slingshot. I really hope we see Longbow turned into a full-featured standalone title.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:56
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Spruchy posted:So is there anyway for me to play this game without being responsible for the great VR War?  but in all seriousness the game sounds pretty boring I don't think you'd be missing much.I mean I get that people want content. Its a sticky situation. It'd really suck to end up in a place of exclusivity per HMD in the near future, Steam still seems to be holding true to its agnostic approach but Oculus is doubling down. I get that you'd want content for the headset you got. Its tough, and most gamers are incredibly hypocritical morons anywhere (someone post the image of the CoD boycott). Manky posted:Valve updated the Lab today to add new game modes and leaderboards to Xortex, Longbow, and Slingshot. I really hope we see Longbow turned into a full-featured standalone title. Or just play this instead since this sounds fun and rad and you said you own all the headsets anyway. Longbow owns super hard. edit: found it.  So really any boycott of exclusives will probably fail because imagine this but with people who have the expendable income to afford VR poo poo. Knifegrab fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Jun 6, 2016 |
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No, we just really really want you to stop threadshitting
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Has anybody bought Edge of Nowhere yet? I've been considering picking it up tonight after work and I was wondering what people think about it. I beat Chronos so I'm ready for my next game.
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Jun 6, 2016 19:35
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Is there a point where you can "win" in the slingshot game? I was kind of annoyed that blowing up an area that has tracer core boxes doesn't unlock the tracer cores so I can't get more then 30 million in damage so far. I remember people mentioning that if you "beat" everything like how you can beat the archery one, something unlocks. I don't know if that was just a prank or not.
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Cojawfee posted:Is there a point where you can "win" in the slingshot game? I was kind of annoyed that blowing up an area that has tracer core boxes doesn't unlock the tracer cores so I can't get more then 30 million in damage so far. I remember people mentioning that if you "beat" everything like how you can beat the archery one, something unlocks. I don't know if that was just a prank or not. I think you got pranked, I don't think there is a way to beat that game. Its really fun though and the update makes it sound even more fun.
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Spruchy posted:I'm just going to buy it on the Oculus store because I have an Oculus and would like to play it today. You should do what you want with your money, just know that Oculus will not refund any purchases you made unless your jurisdiction (i.e. EU) forces them to ~or~ you get a popular reddit post going that drums up enough negative PR to force their hand.
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I really hope Steam locks Oculus out of its store. Not because I think those kind of things are good at all, overall it would be bad, but just because the drama it would cause would be pretty entertaining.
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Jun 6, 2016 19:55
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Knifegrab posted:I really hope Steam locks Oculus out of its store. It is not in Valve's best interest, or anyone's really except for Oculus, to force people to buy games from the Oculus Store, so that would be pretty dumb.
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GlyphGryph posted:It is not in Valve's best interest, or anyone's really except for Oculus, to force people to buy games from the Oculus Store, so that would be pretty dumb. It would be incredibly dumb. And bad for everyone. But it would be admittedly satisfying and the drama it would cause would be really interesting to watch from afar. Reddit would implode. People singing praises about exclusives would be crying. But I mean I wonder what Valve's plan is? Its pretty clear down the road that Oculus is going to double down on their exclusivity mindset. If Gen2 rolls around and the two choices are a headset that can play some games but not Oculus games or a headset that can play all games, I might end up choosing the latter, even if the hardware isn't as good, and that kinda sucks. Valve must be considering this. To the prospective buyer of VR, Oculus becomes more attractive when you are not limited in the software you can access. And if Oculus continues its barring of other HMD's from its store than Valve's gen2 will be limited. There is no way they don't see that coming but what could their response possibly be?
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Knifegrab posted:Oh lol edge of nowhere is just a bog standard third person horror, but the camera that normally would follow is in VR, whoa man, such good use of VR! Something tells me its like a spooky luckey's tail (Completely middle of the road game with no reason being in VR being crammed into VR for reasons...) Your the final say in what kinds of games people should enjoy now too? All VR games have to be first person? If you don't utilize all the space you have to the maximum amount of roomscale you should just quit? Your future view of VR is very limiting and unimaginative. From what I've gathered Edge of Nowhere is essentially Lovecraft's At the Mountains of Madness. That alone is enough for me to take interest.
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redhalo posted:Your the final say in what kinds of games people should enjoy now too? All VR games have to be first person? If you don't utilize all the space you have to the maximum amount of roomscale you should just quit? Your future view of VR is very limiting and unimaginative. What god no, but games which are traditional games that are merely adapted to VR are typically kind of piddling VR games. Edge of Nowhere seems like it was made to just be a normal third person horror game that they then just slapped into VR as opposed to being built from the ground up in VR. It might be fun, the reviews are good, but are those good game reviews or good vr game reviews because the latter is incredibly forgiving. Horror games in VR are incredibly fun though, and ridiculously scary, I'd still be interested in hearing someone post about their experience with it, even though I don't support purchasing things on Oculus stores or supporting titles that are exclusive. I'm in kind of a weird place where I can't decide if more VR content is good or if its bad when its exclusive. I really want VR content to take off, I want everyone to be able to play fun and good games, but I don't want users of one headset to feel like second class citizens. I think its a fair thought. Knifegrab fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Jun 6, 2016 |
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Knifegrab posted:What god no, but games which are traditional games that are merely adapted to VR are typically kind of piddling VR games. Edge of Nowhere seems like it was made to just be a normal third person horror game that they then just slapped into VR as opposed to being built from the ground up in VR. It might be fun, the reviews are good, but are those good game reviews or good vr game reviews because the latter is incredibly forgiving. Oh, so because your obsessed with Oculus's practices you poo poo of a game you've never played and declare it terrible because it doesn't turn the entire paradigm on what a game should be upside down? Why is third person so forbidden in VR to you or does your objections not really have anything to do with the game at all?
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Why would valve care? They don't sell hardware, they sell software. They don't care what hardware people use to access their store. Making their store exclusive to a device they don't own makes absolutely no sense.
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Cojawfee posted:Why would valve care? They don't sell hardware, they sell software. They don't care what hardware people use to access their store. Making their store exclusive to a device they don't own makes absolutely no sense. Do you think they'll even do a Gen2 then? But more to the point, what is Oculus's goal here. By barring out other HMD headsets they lose sales. So that hurts them where are they planning to recoup that cost? Is the end goal to encourage the market to buy Oculus HMD's where they will add tons of markup (I guess the apple model)? Or is the goal to just force every other HMD out of the market so then they are the de-facto VR distribution platform?
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Knifegrab posted:Do you think they'll even do a Gen2 then? People should complain to HTC for working exclusively with Valve. Oculus has said they are more than willing to work with headset manufacturers to implement their SDK. Unless part of the deal with Valve was they would be the sole provider of the software, which again isn't really in Oculus's hands.
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Poetic Justice posted:People should complain to HTC for working exclusively with Valve. Oculus has said they are more than willing to work with headset manufacturers to implement their SDK. Unless part of the deal with Valve was they would be the sole provider of the software, which again isn't really in Oculus's hands. How is HTC working exclusively with valve a bad thing? Because they preferred an API that was hardware agnostic?
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Knifegrab this thread was doing great, can you just leave all your bullshit in the thread you made for yourself or is that not enough of a soapbox?
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Why is it impossible for you chumps to ignore the guy? It's real easy I promise. Poetic Justice posted:People should complain to HTC for working exclusively with Valve. Oculus has said they are more than willing to work with headset manufacturers to implement their SDK. Unless part of the deal with Valve was they would be the sole provider of the software, which again isn't really in Oculus's hands. Oculus can say whatever they want though, in practice they are doing exclusives exactly like the conspiracists said they would when Facebook entered the fray. You can't own a non-Oculus headset and use their store with their support and we don't actually know why because Oculus won't tell us. Probably because it's bad and they know it is and don't want to invite that criticism.
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KakerMix posted:Why is it impossible for you chumps to ignore the guy? It's real easy I promise. Unfortunately this is probably true. Its pretty crazy that almost all of the  predictions came true. Hell lots of what Palmer has said in tweets/comments were straight up lies or he had to later recant it because even his expectations were shot down by men at the top. I think the piece of information Poetic Justice is using too saying that Oculus offered to work with others was something Palmer had said, but that we have no actual evidence to support other than a single reddit comment. At this point that kind of info just isn't reliable anymore. The real reasons for their decisions moving forward is because its profitable, at the expense of any consumer friendly decision.
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Poetic Justice posted:People should complain to HTC for working exclusively with Valve. Oculus has said they are more than willing to work with headset manufacturers to implement their SDK. Unless part of the deal with Valve was they would be the sole provider of the software, which again isn't really in Oculus's hands. Oculus, to be fair, has a long history of bald-faced lying in regards to their intents relating to things like "exclusives", and considering they have actively sabotaged attempts to allow their software to work on other headsets I doubt they have any interest in working with anyone on anything.
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Knifegrab posted:Do you think they'll even do a Gen2 then? Who? Valve? They didn't even do a Gen 1. That's all on HTC. Now that the vive is out, I doubt Valve will be doing anything besides adding in support for any new headsets as they come out. Maybe they'll do a revision of how lighthouse works, but I don't expect them to do anything with hardware.
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Cojawfee posted:Who? Valve? They didn't even do a Gen 1. That's all on HTC. Now that the vive is out, I doubt Valve will be doing anything besides adding in support for any new headsets as they come out. Maybe they'll do a revision of how lighthouse works, but I don't expect them to do anything with hardware. Knowing Valve you are probably right. And its pretty obvious HTC will do a gen2 but will anyone want one if it can only play half of the games?
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It's a shame about the way Oculus seems to be moving. I want to support companies that are putting the time and money into bigger VR games like Edge of Nowhere, but I don't want to support closed platforms. If EoN ends up being good though I'll probably still buy it to support devs and show there is an appetite for more than tech demos.
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