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VikingofRock posted:So wait, does Clinton actually have an outright majority of the possible pledged delegates at this point? If not, what changed about her situation today vs. any time in the last couple months when it was clear she would eventually get a majority? They're counting super-delegates which they polled. She will almost certainly clinch a majority of pledged delegates tomorrow. Because super delegates make up 15% of the vote, it's hard to get an actual majority without them (it's happened all of twice since they were introduced into the process, and hasn't happened since 2000). ComradeCosmobot posted:She does not have a pledged delegate majority. AP's counts include superdelegates who have endorsed Hillary. They actually polled supers. It's in the release.
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Dexo posted:Yeah, Trump totally loving wants out of this nomination. The logic part of my brain won't allow me to accept otherwise. This is possible. If this really was a PR stunt, it's hilarious because his exit strategy of "be a racist facist piece of poo poo" is only endearing him to his constituency. More likely he is a raging narcissist and is completely deluded.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:lololol We were joking about him eventually narrowing the set of acceptable judges to white ones but it's actually happening
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Jun 7, 2016 02:08
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Can we take a moment to recognize just how badly Trump has botched the last month of his 'campaign'? He's been the unopposed Republican presumptive nominee for over a month now. With Hillary still engaged with Bernie this was his shot to actually try and make up some ground. To try and get his campaign in order, to lay the much needed ground work for a general election. He saw his polling get better due to the Republicans coalescing around him even if it only amounted to a couple polls of him ahead and the rest with him still behind by a couple points. If he was ever going to even attempt to pivot this would have been the time when he had all the attention on him. But no, he does nothing during the entire month aside from spout of petty insults on twitter as usual. So over the last couple weeks we've seen his poll numbers start to dip as his honeymoon period as the presumptive nominee comes to and end and Hillary starts devoting attention toward the General Election. She lays down a massive smackdown with an incredible speech detailing just how awful he is in every way. And what does he do in response? He chooses to close the month out by disastrously going after a federal judge on purely racist grounds. He had a month to endear himself to someone outside his small racist base and he failed in every single way. I remember back before Trump entered the race the accepted wisdom here was that the GOP not only had an uphill battle to fight, but that their primary was going to do them more harm than good. Mostly because in order to win the primary you have to appeal to ideas that are toxic in the general and balancing the two has become increasingly impossible. That common wisdom is still true but holy moly I didn't think it'd be anything like this.
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Luminous Obscurity posted:What are the chances of the GOP losing control of the House if the Trumpenreich continues as is until November? It seems like he's fracturing the Right far harder than most people were expecting him to. It might not be mathematically possible for the GOP to lose the house unless the GOP would actually split in to two parties for this election. The House is Gerrymandered as all gently caress and heavily in the GOP's favor. Hollismason posted:I don't think that can actually legitimately happen. Barack Obama cannot be VP because he has already served two terms as POTUS. Michelle would sooner campaign for Donald Trump or slap Hilary on live TV than accept something that'd keep her in DC for another 4-8 years. She'd burn DC to the ground and salt the earth if it'd let her leave a day sooner. Living in DC by all accounts sucks, Michelle knows and doesn't hide it.
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Jun 7, 2016 02:08
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:They actually polled supers. It's in the release. Sure, I wasn't disputing that with superdelegates, she's got it. Just that she doesn't yet have a majority of pledged delegates. It's a meaningless distinction because those superdelegates aren't going to swing for Bernie, but it's still a distinction.
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Jun 7, 2016 02:10
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:this whole line is dumb because technically nobody votes until the convention and what if 4,764 of the 4,765 delegates die right before casting their vote and the 1 remaining delegate votes for Deez Nuts? we all remember bobby kennedy
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Jun 7, 2016 02:11
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Oh hey She stands there in front of the roaring convention- balloons and confetti all around- waiting for the feeling to enter her. "Nothing." She whispers to herself. "Still nothing."
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:this whole line is dumb because technically nobody votes until the convention and what if 4,764 of the 4,765 delegates die right before casting their vote and the 1 remaining delegate votes for Deez Nuts? It's not as if Bernie can just say "yep, it's over" -- i mean he could but, lol if you think that's going to happen.
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Jun 7, 2016 02:12
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Basically the AP have been calling supers and asking them who they're voting for, and apparently enough have told them Clinton that them + pledges = enough to clinch so they're calling it. I doubt she changes any of her plans for tomorrow over it though, as sitting back and dusting her shoulder would seriously piss off the Bernouts, while saying something like, "that's nice and all but the pledged delegates on the line tomorrow are way more important!" is the better move for the near future
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Epic High Five posted:Basically the AP have been calling supers and asking them who they're voting for, and apparently enough have told them Clinton that them + pledges = enough to clinch so they're calling it. She already responded with as much. https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/739983730002022400
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Jun 7, 2016 02:16
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Lol https://twitter.com/jbendery/status/739939661091635201
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Jun 7, 2016 02:29
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Memorizing their faces so he can find them and kill them later.
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Jun 7, 2016 02:37
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God.... I would pay money, cash money, to have this on film. I would watch it every morning and have a FANTASTIC day afterwards.
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Jun 7, 2016 02:39
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Calling the nom right now is loving stupid and AP should be ashamed. Not because Bernie could win, but because she didn't win. Just literally did not win yet. That's not a thing that has happened, yet.
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Jun 7, 2016 02:40
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Taima posted:Calling the nom right now is loving stupid and AP should be ashamed. Not because Bernie could win, but because she didn't win. Just literally did not win yet. That's not a thing that has happened, yet. Explain. Start with who, having the power to actually nominate, has already cast a vote.
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Jun 7, 2016 02:45
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Taima posted:Calling the nom right now is loving stupid and AP should be ashamed. Not because Bernie could win, but because she didn't win. Just literally did not win yet. That's not a thing that has happened, yet. Could have waited until after tomorrow. Would that change your opinion? It won't change the outcome however.
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Jun 7, 2016 02:46
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Oh hey Well poo poo now I actually want Sanders to win just so he can quote this on twitter and create this century's"Dewey Beats Truman" moment.
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Jun 7, 2016 02:46
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:She already responded with as much. Love Her.
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Slate has an article about the probable loss of former Tea Party darling/now "big government liberal" Rep. Renee Ellmers (because she didn't vote to block the debt ceiling hikes and stripped a provision which would have required women to file rape reports with the police in order to get the dispensation for rape victims to have an abortion after 20 weeks)
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Jun 7, 2016 02:47
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DemeaninDemon posted:Could have waited until after tomorrow. Would that change your opinion? It won't change the outcome however. I'm fine with the outcome, which will happen tomorrow, not today. Nitpicky I guess, but they're the AP. Please wait until the thing has happened, to say that it has happened. Taima fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Jun 7, 2016 |
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Jun 7, 2016 02:49
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Holy poo poo https://psmag.com/election-season-politics-with-ralph-nader-public-interest-crusader-82d6fbd6e13d#.anfq5owqi quote:Now that you mention it, Trump is a fascinating phenomenon. What does his popularity tell you about the electorate and what they want? Ralph Nader Everybody.
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Jun 7, 2016 02:52
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Dexo posted:Holy poo poo So did he hit his head or does he just not give a gently caress about anything anymore?
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Jun 7, 2016 02:56
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Dexo posted:Holy poo poo He's just jealous everybody thinks Trump is the biggest oval office around and wants to reclaim the title.
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Jun 7, 2016 02:57
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Is it possible that Trump could win Michigan and Wisconsin?
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Rhesus Pieces posted:So did he hit his head or does he just not give a gently caress about anything anymore? on one hand, he might have went all in on white identity politics, given his whining about affirmative action earlier this year on the other hand, he might just be desperately trying to stay relevant
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Jun 7, 2016 02:58
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Rhesus Pieces posted:lololol The debate where Trump is going to be trapped on stage with Hillary for two hours with no escape. The one where Hillary will be out for his blood. God I love politics sometimes. 
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fade5 posted:Keep this statement in mind, and now imagine the first General Election presidential debate. Hillary is going to give her first actual genuine human being smile when that debate first starts. It's gonna own. She might as well set up a Summer Jam Screen
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Taima posted:I'm fine with the outcome, which will happen tomorrow, not today. Nitpicky I guess, but they're the AP. Please wait until the thing has happened, to say that it has happened. It happened though 
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Taima posted:I'm fine with the outcome, which will happen tomorrow, not today. Nitpicky I guess, but they're the AP. Please wait until the thing has happened, to say that it has happened. It happened but yeah I'm kind of with you. Doing it now just gets clicks. In end, who cares all hail Abuela.
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CelestialScribe posted:Is it possible that Trump could win Michigan and Wisconsin? Oh my God your gimmick is insufferable!
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CelestialScribe posted:Is it possible that Trump could win Michigan and Wisconsin? Reminder that Trump lost Wisconsin while in the middle of an upswing during the GOP primary, hard. That said, the GOP will surely rally around him, but as poo poo as Wisconsin is in state politics, it's going blue again with both a Hillary and Feingold at the national level. DemeaninDemon posted:It happened but yeah I'm kind of with you. Doing it now just gets clicks. In end, who cares all hail Abuela. My problem with the sentiment is that it implies that the process is illegitimate. It's not, and at this stage Bernie Sanders had endorsed Obama in 2008 saying that the primary was over.
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Dexo posted:I wonder do they have to put a name with a political party on the presidential election ballot. In most states there is required to be a name. A placeholder name could be used for that, of a valid candidate, and then when it comes to electoral college voting time the ones elected on the Republican ticket could be instructed they should really vote for whoever. Of course, electors can't be forced to vote for anyone if they don't want to, so in that situation some might vote for the placeholder name candidate while others vote for that party's new candidate, and it'd probably result in that party losing due to split votes!
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Jun 7, 2016 03:08
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Oh my god, if libertarians actually get house seats in blood red districts
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Oh my god, if libertarians actually get house seats in blood red districts I'd vote for that dude who went on stage and stripped naked at the Libertarian convention
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Jun 7, 2016 03:44
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Lynching is "back", and you'll never guess who's being accused of it.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Lynching is "back", and you'll never guess who's being accused of it. .......  How. Between Lousiana's Police Hate Crime laws and this, what the hell.
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CommieGIR posted:....... The definition of lynching in the criminal code at the time was removing someone from police custody. The more example cited in that article, though, is a protester that was almost accused of "lynching herself," by screaming "help" during a police raid.
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I'm mostly flabbergasted that nobody in the DA's office was able to say "hey, you know, this probably won't look so good, we may want to rethink this charge." I mean, maybe one nutjob wanted to make a point, but there wasn't anyone to talk them down?
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