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Small Frozen Thing posted:Nah, you gave a really pathetic half-assed "I'm sorry if you were offended" and then started flinging your poo poo at everyone who looked at you funny, hooting and shrieking the whole time. also the whole NUH UH YOU'RE THE MEANIES thing
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Jun 8, 2016 05:28
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Small Frozen Thing posted:He's not trolling. He's legitimately that stupid and thin-skinned. Part of me wants people to shut up and stop baiting Hermetic so he stops making GBS threads up the thread, but part of me wants to see him humiliated by his own privilege, thoughtlessness, and arrogance over and over.
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I'd call hermetic the shittiest of the shitbags himself but i'm afraid he'd smugly fake-call me out for insulting his proud race of shitbags unfairly. What's the acceptable term, differently shitted?
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Jun 8, 2016 05:40
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Hermetic posted:Nah, I said sorry once, and some spaz poo poo on that, so now I'm just warning better people of the shitbags in the thread. Must be awful to be angered by something that minor. And I never said anything about "PC Police", just a couple of lovely morons who think that typing on a computer screen should mean that talking civilly about poo poo goes right out the window. It's not concern-trolling. I have an autistic relative who I personally had to talk out of suicide. A good part of it was that he believed he was incurably 'lesser' and would be unable to improve his life beyond its then-pretty-lovely state - and that since being autistic made him a bad person, he deserved to fail. This wasn't stuff he'd come up with on his own. This was a result of being exposed to years of anti-autistic prejudice on the Internet, and reacting poorly when he himself was diagnosed. Suicide watch is basically the worst possible way to spend your time, and I'd prefer if as few people as possible had to engage in it. People are getting mad at you because the sort of poo poo you're saying has consequences, and you're responding by being a smug, condescending rear end in a top hat. Either gently caress off or try posting less awfully.
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Jun 8, 2016 05:43
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Hermetic posted:Nah, I said sorry once, and some spaz poo poo on that Stepping out on a limb here because I have no desire to go back and reread your terrible posts, but from what I can recall you have never actually apologized to anyone. I'm sure you think you've done a plausible job, but you're always doing that dance where you couple a weasel worded fake apology with hostility and whining about how awful everyone else is. That is not what real apologies look like, you are not fooling anyone (except maybe yourself, if you are that dim, and I suspect you are). I'm sure you'll now wriggle around and find a way to be even more of a shithead, that seems to be your go-to move, that'll show 'em champ, do it
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I'd call hermetic the shittiest of the shitbags himself but i'm afraid he'd smugly fake-call me out for insulting his proud race of shitbags unfairly. Man, you are like a dog with a bone. Please get off the internet until you can control your temper tantrums. Tia. Darth Walrus posted:It's not concern-trolling. I have an autistic relative who I personally had to talk out of suicide. A good part of it was that he believed he was incurably 'lesser' and would be unable to improve his life beyond its then-pretty-lovely state - and that since being autistic made him a bad person, he deserved to fail. This wasn't stuff he'd come up with on his own. This was a result of being exposed to years of anti-autistic prejudice on the Internet, and reacting poorly when he himself was diagnosed. Suicide watch is basically the worst possible way to spend your time, and I'd prefer if as few people as possible had to engage in it. Nah. I tried apologizing and got it thrown back in my face, so smugness now and smugness forever. Sorry about your relative, though. That's a legitimately lovely thing to happen to a person and they have my sympathy. Depression and suicidal thoughts suck, and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. Realtalk, though, shut up. BobHoward posted:Stepping out on a limb here because I have no desire to go back and reread your terrible posts, but from what I can recall you have never actually apologized to anyone. I'm sure you think you've done a plausible job, but you're always doing that dance where you couple a weasel worded fake apology with hostility and whining about how awful everyone else is. That is not what real apologies look like, you are not fooling anyone (except maybe yourself, if you are that dim, and I suspect you are). Gosh you must win because you care so little. Gosh, so cool so wonderful. Wow. I said "Yikes, sorry about that." No weasel words. Next time care enough to not be a dumb rear end in a top hat. Or don't. I don't care. Hermetic has a new favorite as of 05:56 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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Please stop replying to Hermetic in any capacity. The sooner everybody lets him feel like he "won" by getting the last word, the better.Lottery of Babylon posted:namefagging This is some kind of 4chan version of namedropping, I assume? Or does it mean something else that renders the whole argument even more stupid?
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Hermetic posted:Man, you are like a dog with a bone. Please get off the internet until you can control your temper tantrums. Tia. Connor: Why do I need to pray to the kike on the pike? Thomas: Because ((His disciples)) civilized your people, bringing them monogamy. Shannon: Monogamy is the only way I want to reproduce, thank you ((Jesus)). Sean: Thank ((Jesus)) for cities and chainmail, I am glad that we’re not using stone tools in between bashing each other’s brains out with clubs Thomas: Don’t you mean sending each other’s souls to Heaven? Sean: Of course. When I die I’ll get to see Grandma again  Megan: I am glad that my future husband won’t be mauled in the wars we used to constantly fight. — sunday school, ca. 1000 Kevin: I am glad ((Jesus)) taught us to accept these poor migrants. Ikechukwu: ooga booga Kelly: *giggle* Kayleigh: and I’m glad that ((Jesus)) taught us to accept homosexuals, if I was a homosexual I would want to ((love)) others in the way that I was born to Ogechukwukana: OOGA BOOGA OOGA BOOGA Thomas, Ph. D: Please understand, children, that while we have made great progress in ((the Lord)), we must not then turn around and ignore the superior culture of our equals who are here to stay with us permanently. Brian: yes, ((Jesus)) is great, take my land, it isn’t mine anyway, it’s ((God’s)) green Earth. — sunday school, ca. 2000
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Because it's fair to dogpile on someone if they've earned it: I'm also autistic, and using that as an insult is, believe it or not, kind of bigoted, and defending it and attacking anyone who calls you out makes you an rear end in a top hat. Fake edit for content: Our future technocratic overlords will save us with cold logic. Racist cold logic. It turns out Skynet is okay with white people posted:Borden and her friend were arrested and charged with burglary and petty theft for the items, which were valued at a total of $80. Compare their crime with a similar one: The previous summer, 41-year-old Vernon Prater was picked up for shoplifting $86.35 worth of tools from a nearby Home Depot store. Prater was the more seasoned criminal. He had already been convicted of armed robbery and attempted armed robbery, for which he served five years in prison, in addition to another armed robbery charge. Borden had a record, too, but it was for misdemeanors committed when she was a juvenile. So how racist will Roko's Basilisk be? I'm not trolling with that question; this is a legitimate problem. An "objective" rating system for criminals is exactly the sort of rationalist dystopian policy you'd expect to be dreamed up by starry-eyed techno-libertarians.
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Hermetic posted:Man, you are like a dog with a bone. Please get off the internet until you can control your temper tantrums. Tia. u mad bro? e: also because im SO FROTHINGLY MAD GOSH DARN apparently I went and looked it up, and you actually said Hermetic posted:Yikes, I guess I offended some people. Which is definitely a weasel-worded fake apology, which you then followed up with, in order, concern trolling, smug condescension, smug dismissive condescension, concern trolling, smug condescension, and the line "I'd apologize, but that just makes people madder, I think." which kinda sums up everything nicely. Anyway go ahead and respond to this to get your ~last word~ and pat yourself on the back for winning or whatever I'm done. Shame Boy has a new favorite as of 06:10 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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Heresiarch posted:Please stop replying to Hermetic in any capacity. The sooner everybody lets him feel like he "won" by getting the last word, the better. Not trying to get the last word you absolute failure of a human being, just increasingly tired of poo poo people in an otherwise lovely thread who are determined to rage at someone for literally nothing. And, to answer the actually-relevant part of your post, "namefagging" is a term they use for people who have the audacity to use the name settings on 4chan, voluntarily giving up their anonymity. Basically, having a set identity on an chan is seen as offensive and wanting to be a unique snowflake. Yeah, it's pretentious as hell while being ridiculously childish. 4chan is startlingly good at pulling of that seemingly paradoxical combination of lovely things. Speaking of childish... Parallel Paraplegic posted:u mad bro? Actually, yeah. I'm mad that you're being an immature brat. Could you please chill? Thanks.
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It is also, in my opinion, an absolutely excellent example of a neurotypical cis straight white male "ally" losing his poo poo and lashing out at any minority who dares disagree with him.
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Hermetic posted:Not trying to get the last word you absolute failure of a human being, just increasingly tired of poo poo people in an otherwise lovely thread who are determined to rage at someone for literally nothing. If a girl gets pregnant to a rapist, that does not necessarily prove she had an orgasm, but it does prove she rather liked the rape and the rapist, and very likely had an orgasm. The cervix is normally closed. If closed, those sperm are not going anywhere.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:If a girl gets pregnant to a rapist, that does not necessarily prove she had an orgasm, but it does prove she rather liked the rape and the rapist, and very likely had an orgasm.
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Jack Gladney posted:Well, I can't think of anything whiter than Dr. Who. I think he's had sex though. Phil is gonna DESTROY these guys: http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/author/phil/tardis-eruditorum/ The alt-right is trying to co-opt the hero of their biggest enemy at the moment. Count Chocula has a new favorite as of 07:01 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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Small Frozen Thing posted:It is also, in my opinion, an absolutely excellent example of a neurotypical cis straight white male "ally" losing his poo poo and lashing out at any minority who dares disagree with him. This is a spot-on observation but I'd like to bring something up and hopefully do it in a way which will lead to something useful and not more noise, and as a related follow up to the Uncle Tom/quisling/useful idiot discussion. I have a pretty strongly divergent neurology myself, although not on the autistic spectrum, so I understand that I may be coming at this from a bad direction. If I step in it, assume I misstepped in an attempt to start an honest and productive dialogue and wasn't trying to stir any poo poo. That said: I really, really dislike the way that the word "neurotypical" is used by some (much?) of the autistic spectrum community, including people I consider friends and allies. I fully understand the intent of the term, in the same way that "cis" is merely a way to say "not trans", but in my experience it's being used very commonly (but not exclusively) as a pejorative and not merely a descriptor. It reminds me uncomfortably of the way that SF and related fandoms often refer to non-fans as "mundanes" or "normies" or something as a way to feel superior to those people who had typically mistreated them. You probably didn't intend to use it this way in your post, but in the larger context it can easily be misinterpreted that way by somebody who's seen how the term is often used. My personal, immediate reaction to your use of the term was strongly negative and I had to step back and parse out exactly why. I feel like the term has been unintentionally damaged, that it is now loaded with unintended negative connotations and may need to be discarded in favor of something else, preferably something that doesn't contain an inherent value judgement like the word "typical" embedded in it. But since I am not actually part of the spectrum community, and have only been able to observe this use of language from the outside, I'd like to hear peoples' thoughts on this.
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Count Chocula posted:Phil is gonna DESTROY these guys: Doctor Who actually aligns quite well with far-right thought, especially the neoreactionaries with their obsession on being the smartest guy in the room. although that can be said about most of sci-fi and fantasy fiction, it is made to be projected upon
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Hermetic stop making GBS threads up the threadHeresiarch posted:This is some kind of 4chan version of namedropping, I assume? Or does it mean something else that renders the whole argument even more stupid?
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Heresiarch posted:This is a spot-on observation but I'd like to bring something up and hopefully do it in a way which will lead to something useful and not more noise, and as a related follow up to the Uncle Tom/quisling/useful idiot discussion. I don't really see how it matters, since they're all words for describing ways in which I'm not at a disadvantage. Does it bother you when gay people talk about breeders, or when black people generalize about white people? They're not talking about me personally, so why should I be offended?
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Jack Gladney posted:I don't really see how it matters, since they're all words for describing ways in which I'm not at a disadvantage. Does it bother you when gay people talk about breeders, or when black people generalize about white people? They're not talking about me personally, so why should I be offended? Well, I think his problem is more the suggestion that by not being 'typical' the person is therefore a kind of freak.
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fatherboxx posted:Doctor Who actually aligns quite well with far-right thought, especially the neoreactionaries with their obsession on being the smartest guy in the room. He does spend a lot of time showing up and toppling corrupt governments, often monarchies and evil capitalists. In the 80s, one of the writers wanted to use it to bring down Thatcher. Phil and his associates see The Doctor as a revolutionary figure.
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Count Chocula posted:He does spend a lot of time showing up and toppling corrupt governments, often monarchies and evil capitalists. In the 80s, one of the writers wanted to use it to bring down Thatcher. Phil and his associates see The Doctor as a revolutionary figure. hahaha Phil is usually brilliant but not when he decides to write about Doctor Who. Thats okay, everyone has blindspots and weaknesses.
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Count Chocula posted:In the 80s, one of the writers wanted to use it to bring down Thatcher. And then they actually wrote that storyline in a few years back where the Doc destroys the Prime Minister's career in six words.
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Heresiarch posted:This is a spot-on observation but I'd like to bring something up and hopefully do it in a way which will lead to something useful and not more noise, and as a related follow up to the Uncle Tom/quisling/useful idiot discussion. Oh no, I absolutely agree with this. I actually lingered on what term to use for a while, but since he said he had issues with depression before "non-disabled" wasn't accurate.
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Tesseraction posted:And then they actually wrote that storyline in a few years back where the Doc destroys the Prime Minister's career in six words. 
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chrisoya posted:They should try that again, with six other words and a more recent politician. But "You hosed a dead pig" is only five words.
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djw175 posted:But "You hosed a dead pig" is only five words. The meme is DCFADP (David Cameron hosed a Dead Pig). Of course, in question form and matching the Doctor Who plot, it would be him leaning in to the cop's ear and going "Did he really gently caress a pig?"
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Small Frozen Thing posted:Oh no, I absolutely agree with this. I actually lingered on what term to use for a while, but since he said he had issues with depression before "non-disabled" wasn't accurate. Autistic people are perfectly welcome to their own version of kill whitey as long as I still get to call people cishet scum 
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Small Frozen Thing posted:It is also, in my opinion, an absolutely excellent example of a neurotypical cis straight white male "ally" losing his poo poo and lashing out at any minority who dares disagree with him. Glad someone quoted this so I could see it. Don't ever call me straight you ridiculous, shambolic excuse for a person, or make assumptions about my race. loving bigot trash. Tesseraction posted:I think my favourite one was "Would you like some tissues for your cissues?" Goddamn it, even with the gay history of snappy one-liners we will never have anything that cool. Hermetic has a new favorite as of 14:59 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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Hermetic posted:Glad someone quoted this so I could see it. dsyp E: edited that one quickly
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OfficialGBSCaliph posted:dsyp Nah, if this thread's going to have callouts, then it's going to have callouts. Don't start backpedaling now when someone you like fucks up. Though I am amused you wimped out on whatever you originally said. Can't even stand by your own lovely insults without panicing? 
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Tesseraction posted:I'm guessing he wrote "dsyp" (don't sign your posts) when "loving bigot trash." was the last line of your post, and adding in your reply to me ruined his setup. I assumed it was "don't poo poo your pants", like he was telling me to calm down. LOL I love that the narrative has gone from "he said something kinda bad and gave an INSUFFICIENT APOLOGY  " to calling me a bigot after assuming a bunch of wrong poo poo about my orientation, gender, race, etc. as a way to insult me.That idiotic hypocrisy right there? That's the alt-right's broken clock moment.
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