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Warcabbit posted:It's worse than that. Apparently, female body armor does not fit well, which is why she wears the old lady coats - it's boxy, not form fitting at all.
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Boon posted:So what's the chances of a Trump meltdown as the increased scrutiny of the GE ramps up. I don't mean quibbling mess, but unforced error after unforced error in a similar vein as the last couple of weeks but on repeat. High enough you won't make money betting that it will occur. Considering Romney/Ryan had that issue and then before that you had McCain/Palin, people who were actually liked and wanted to succeed. Trump is even more thin skinned than Palin, more out of touch then Romney, and didn't have the virtue out being a veteran or the GOP brain trust to offset. He's a walking gaffe factory.
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https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/740568867559198726 *crumples up Strippr app proposal*
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Aaron Schock showed up for the Modi speech in Congress today, presumably hoping to get tips on how to redesign his new office in a British Raj motif.
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JonathonSpectre posted:We're going to get to watch Hillary Clinton debate Donald Trump. I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to this. I have been trying and trying to imagine what these debates will be like and my mind just refuses to process it. Like I can't get any further than imagining them standing at the podiums and then my brain just shuts down.
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Bushiz posted:"She's not as bad as a guy who stole 100 million dollars, a robot made of money, or the literal avatar of american extravagance" isn't a strong argument. In a first past the post system it is
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Warcabbit posted:It's worse than that. Apparently, female body armor does not fit well, which is why she wears the old lady coats - it's boxy, not form fitting at all. Eh, I don't care about the jacket really (aside from that $12K is stupid even if you are wealthy, but then I'm just kinda cheap), or anything else she wears, but I'd never really thought about body armor either. What I do take issue with is calling it sexism. It's not sexism for a product to simply not exist because of low demand. Most wearers of body armor are men, thus most body armor is designed for men. Body armor for women may be kinda poo poo and relatively expensive because it's kind of a low volume specialty thing that maybe all the same design work hasn't gone into for those reasons. And if she can spend $12K on a jacket, she can afford to have high quality custom armor made. Being more critical of her appearance than a man is sexism, her body armor being unflattering isn't.
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Warcabbit posted:It's worse than that. Apparently, female body armor does not fit well, which is why she wears the old lady coats - it's boxy, not form fitting at all. That's weird, you'd think by now the secret service would've gotten a vest made for someone they've protected for decades (and will protect for decades to come) or that Clinton might decide "gently caress it if I have to spent 5-6 figures to get armor that isn't cumbersome poo poo I will" at some point.
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ReidRansom posted:Eh, I don't care about the jacket really (aside from that $12K is stupid even if you are wealthy, but then I'm just kinda cheap), or anything else she wears, but I'd never really thought about body armor either. You've just described the difference between ad hoc and systematic cultural sexism.
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ReidRansom posted:What I do take issue with is calling it sexism. It's not sexism for a product to simply not exist because of low demand. Most wearers of body armor are men, thus most body armor is designed for men. Body armor for women may be kinda poo poo and relatively expensive because it's kind of a low volume specialty thing that maybe all the same design work hasn't gone into for those reasons. And if she can spend $12K on a jacket, she can afford to have high quality custom armor made. Being more critical of her appearance than a man is sexism, her body armor being unflattering isn't.
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But women love Donald, he says so all the time.
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AtraMorS posted:That overlooks the question of why there are so many more men in body-armor-demanding professions than women. (It's because of traditional gender roles.) Even with this being true, what percentage of, say, police officers are women? Even with the inequality I would not be surprised if it is ~15 or ~20%. I would assume that PDs make up a large chunk of bulletproof vest buyers. That would still seem like a market worth trying to corner. So if vest makers truly are not making vests for women that doesn't even sound like solid economics.
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Re: jacket talk: shut up Edit: it stopped after like 5 pages. God is great
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Evil Fluffy posted:That's weird, you'd think by now the secret service would've gotten a vest made for someone they've protected for decades (and will protect for decades to come) or that Clinton might decide "gently caress it if I have to spent 5-6 figures to get armor that isn't cumbersome poo poo I will" at some point. Body armor is always cumbersome poo poo, it won't work otherwise.
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VanSandman posted:Body armor is always cumbersome poo poo, it won't work otherwise. A custom vest that lets her dress like someone other than Doctor Evil would probably be less cumbersome. 
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zoux posted:You've just described the difference between ad hoc and systematic cultural sexism. AtraMorS posted:That overlooks the question of why there are so many more men in body-armor-demanding professions than women. (It's because of traditional gender roles.) Fair enough, though it feels like a strain to say she's suffering from sexism in that particular respect. Point stands, the lady can afford custom fitted armor if she wants to look less boxy. I have no opinion on how she presents herself, boxy, not boxy, don't care.
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showbiz_liz posted:I have been trying and trying to imagine what these debates will be like and my mind just refuses to process it. Like I can't get any further than imagining them standing at the podiums and then my brain just shuts down. Posted this on Facebook and someone immediately replied with a link to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIwAyvoGLu0
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Perhaps some kind of force-field solution might be better? edit: 
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Raerlynn posted:Yuuuuge. At the time Hillary made it pretty clear she was still on Israel's side and believed Iran was going to violate the deal. Obama wants to trust Iran, Hillary did not. Maybe the gas thing has changed her mind, but I think it's likely she would prefer to not encourage more deals and just wait for Iran to screw up, rather than find means to improve relations.
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Freakazoid_ posted:At the time Hillary made it pretty clear she was still on Israel's side and believed Iran was going to violate the deal. Obama wants to trust Iran, Hillary did not. Maybe the gas thing has changed her mind, but I think it's likely she would prefer to not encourage more deals and just wait for Iran to screw up, rather than find means to improve relations. On the other hand, she's been vocal in her support of the Iran deal vis-a-vis Trump. It was one of the bigger notes in her foreign policy speech, that she supported the diplomatic efforts that stopped Iran from developing nuclear weapons without firing a shot, then suggesting that Trump would have started a shooting war with Iran instead.
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ReidRansom posted:Fair enough, though it feels like a strain to say she's suffering from sexism in that particular respect. Point stands, the lady can afford custom fitted armor if she wants to look less boxy. I have no opinion on how she presents herself, boxy, not boxy, don't care. But she does tend to wear those boxy coats, and it does seem to add up. Maybe the insert plates aren't made form fitting? It's still interesting, like when you catch... was it Obama and the seam in the back of his jacket?
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Freakazoid_ posted:At the time Hillary made it pretty clear she was still on Israel's side and believed Iran was going to violate the deal. Obama wants to trust Iran, Hillary did not. Maybe the gas thing has changed her mind, but I think it's likely she would prefer to not encourage more deals and just wait for Iran to screw up, rather than find means to improve relations. Being cynical != actively hoping for breakdowns in negotiation.
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Warcabbit posted:But she does tend to wear those boxy coats, and it does seem to add up. Maybe the insert plates aren't made form fitting? It's still interesting, like when you catch... was it Obama and the seam in the back of his jacket? There was the thing with George W. Bush when he debated John Kerry in 2004. Obviously the bulge was a secret earpiece system that allowed Karl Rove to feed Bush answers through on live television. 
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Warcabbit posted:But she does tend to wear those boxy coats, and it does seem to add up. Maybe the insert plates aren't made form fitting? It's still interesting, like when you catch... was it Obama and the seam in the back of his jacket? Don't recall. But I do remember suitghazi when he wore tan, haha. He pulled it off.
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:There was the thing with George W. Bush when he debated John Kerry in 2004. Oh god I remember all that.
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Cythereal posted:On the other hand, she's been vocal in her support of the Iran deal vis-a-vis Trump. It was one of the bigger notes in her foreign policy speech, that she supported the diplomatic efforts that stopped Iran from developing nuclear weapons without firing a shot, then suggesting that Trump would have started a shooting war with Iran instead. I thought most of what credit she claimed regarding Iran was the imposition of sanctions. Granted, I don't think she's going to be blowing up the JPOA on January 21 but "I negotiated sanctions" isn't the same as supporting the nuke deal. I bet it'll come up during the campaign and her response will be a measured "I had reservations initially but given the progress shown by Iran I think the agreement has been an overall positive development. While I certainly imagine I would have done it differently that wasn't my call to make at that time and when I am president I have no intention to roll back any of the progress made during this administration" or something along those lines. Basically "I came around and saw the light."
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I think she might take a harder line with Iran but there's a lot of space between that and "works actively to undermine the Iran deal in order to create a cassus belli and slake her thirst for Muslim blood"
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Is Trump doing better than Obama '12 with any demographics? I'm guessing uneducated white men, but can't see why he'd do noticeably better with any other.
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Does anyone have video or transcript of Nina Turner last night? I was watching till after Bernie spoke but must have missed her meltdown where Rachel Maddow and the biggest forehead in the world guy expressed conerns for her mental health.
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Munkeymon posted:Is Trump doing better than Obama '12 with any demographics? I'm guessing uneducated white men, but can't see why he'd do noticeably better with any other. White men and maybe certain subcategories of white women. I think that's it.
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What the gently caress does female body armor even mean? Nothing about wearing body armor is form fitting.
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:There was the thing with George W. Bush when he debated John Kerry in 2004. Hard to blame people for thinking that, given the ineptitude of his answers.
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Jarmak posted:What the gently caress does female body armor even mean? Nothing about wearing body armor is form fitting.
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:There was the thing with George W. Bush when he debated John Kerry in 2004. Thaaat's what I meant. Clearly body armor that was partially unbuckled, I think.
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Jarmak posted:What the gently caress does female body armor even mean? Nothing about wearing body armor is form fitting. 
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Evil Fluffy posted:Clinton might decide "gently caress it if I have to spent 5-6 figures to get armor that isn't cumbersome poo poo I will" at some point. "What a hypocrite! Wearing a 5 figure bullet proof vest while giving a speech in inequality" 
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Mia Love is the only Republican in the House willing to honor Ali.
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Majorian posted:Hard to blame people for thinking that, given the ineptitude of his answers. What a long strange trip it's been. It's kind of wild how he was President.
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