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robotsinmyhead posted:The Benghazi conspiracy step-off point appears to be when Susan Rice (?) gave the initial report that the attack was caused by anger created by some guy making a movie depicting Mohammad/Islam in a bad light. That sparked some controversy in Egypt, and the general area. And we literally have people running around referencing a loving Michael Bay movie like there were some commandos watching it go down from a nearby rooftop while Hillary and Obama screaming STAND DOWN into a red phone and jerking off with fetal blood.
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LeeMajors posted:And we literally have people running around referencing a loving Michael Bay movie like there were some commandos watching it go down from a nearby rooftop while Hillary and Obama screaming STAND DOWN into a red phone and jerking off with fetal blood. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIUISe4brRk&t=4s
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LeeMajors posted:And we literally have people running around referencing a loving Michael Bay movie like there were some commandos watching it go down from a nearby rooftop while Hillary and Obama screaming STAND DOWN into a red phone and jerking off with fetal blood. The best part is that there is no why. Why would Hillary and Obama do this? Oh, because they're evil - evil for evil's sake. It's like right wingers believe they live in a world where people behave like cartoon supervillains. I think it's the one thing that really confuses me on a functional level. If you ask them why Hillary and Obama would do something like this, they replay with "Because they hate America and they shred the Constitution. Oh and they lie" No benefit, no reason, just BECAUSE.
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Jun 9, 2016 14:51
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It's pretty insane that Susan Rice doing her job with the information she had at that moment was apparently conspiratorial to some people, and later cost her being Secretary of State.
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Jun 9, 2016 14:58
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robotsinmyhead posted:The best part is that there is no why. Why would Hillary and Obama do this? Oh, because they're evil - evil for evil's sake. Being fair, the GOP basically are cartoon villains, complete with genre-mandated incompetence.
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Jun 9, 2016 15:00
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Tesseraction posted:Being fair, the GOP basically are cartoon villains, complete with genre-mandated incompetence. I used to think Captain Planet's rogue gallery was ridiculously absurd since they cared about polluting first and the monetary gain from that second but after seeing a lot of people deciding that loving over the Earth and making light of animal suffering is awesome (partly because it pisses off those dirty tree huggers) I'm starting to have second thoughts.
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Jun 9, 2016 15:05
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robotsinmyhead posted:The best part is that there is no why. Why would Hillary and Obama do this? Oh, because they're evil - evil for evil's sake. The typical reason I heard was that somebody that died (it varies depending on who you ask) knew something that Oblammo and/or Hitlery wanted silenced for some reason or another. The most insane one was when somebody was trying to convince me that Vile Rat was literally minutes away from leaking documents that would cause the entire Democratic party to be implicated in awful, terrible crimes (what those were he wouldn't say but just know that every Democrat is Satanstalinhitlermusollini!) and would all be arrested and put in jail forever. Obviously Obama and Hillary had to act fast by mobilizing their Muslim allies to shut him up! The other side relates to their views on Islam; they perceive the entire religion as a gigantic monolith that is trying to take over the world, ignoring that a lot of the Muslim terrorism and violence in the world is directed at other Muslims. But no, Oblammo is a Muslim so he absolutely must be in on the conspiracy to destroy America and Christianity! It gets tied up into that a lot, really; they believe that all Muslims in the world want nothing more than to destroy America so anything bad that happens is probably related to that somehow.
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Jun 9, 2016 15:07
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The only explanation that makes the tiniest bit of sense is that a terrorist attack that close to the election would have been bad for Obama so he purposely tried to make it out to be something else. However the GOP decided to ghoulishly make it political before the bodies were cold which blew up in his face and when that didn't make Obama look bad they had to save face by obfuscating Romney's speech by muddying the water. Instead of just letting it go after the election though they decided to keep going I guess since they were in too deep to let go without something and thought they might find anything if they dug enough. Now it's a monster they don't know how to stop, much like the Tea Party in general.
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Jun 9, 2016 15:11
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Radish posted:I used to think Captain Planet's rogue gallery was ridiculously absurd since they cared about polluting first and the monetary gain from that second but after seeing a lot of people deciding that loving over the Earth and making light of animal suffering is awesome (partly because it pisses off those dirty tree huggers) I'm starting to have second thoughts. Yeah there's been a major increase in spite-based policy from the Republicans lately. A few posters keep referring to them as Team Rocket and it really does feel accurate, although they have nothing as cute as Meowth.
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The members of Team Rocket are actually decent and thrust into their roles by plot circumstances and the requirement of a kids show to have antagonists. The GOP is full of real fuckers now and I'm straining to think of any that aren't just terrible people. Even the ones I used to have some respect for are bending the knee to Trump's campaign of open bigotry.
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robotsinmyhead posted:The best part is that there is no why. Why would Hillary and Obama do this? Oh, because they're evil - evil for evil's sake. They believe in this "liberals-EVIL/conservatives-always persecuted" view so much that they'll believe anything that supports it, no matter how little sense it makes. Reasons, facts, really anything else is irrelevant so long as it makes them noble heroes and people who disagree with them monsters. I don't think they can even imagine that idea that spiting their good, traditional values is not the reason anybody left of Fox News gets out of bed in the morning. They will eagerly lap up whatever anybody who claims to support their views demands of them. Looking at it this way, it makes sense: they need a great evil to surround them so they can feel heroic and important. The truth, that they are growing increasingly irrelevant and letting themselves become willing dupes due to their own stubbornness, is too frightening to bear.
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It would be nice if people remembered which republicans supported Trump and then held that against them, but that won't happen.
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Geostomp posted:They believe in this "liberals-EVIL/conservatives-always persecuted" view so much that they'll believe anything that supports it, no matter how little sense it makes. Reasons, facts, really anything else is irrelevant so long as it makes them noble heroes and people who disagree with them monsters. I don't think they can even imagine that idea that spiting their good, traditional values is not the reason anybody left of Fox News gets out of bed in the morning. They will eagerly lap up whatever anybody who claims to support their views demands of them. It isn't just that; conservatives believe that they are America and that everybody that disagrees with them is attacking them and by extension America. They might not say it out loud but they believe that "America" is white guys that are at least middle class; everybody else is infiltrating America's borders to take all of their stuff. It's why "socialism = bad" is such a strong argument to that sector of the populace; "you have a good life that you earned and people want to have that life without earning it" sounds scary.
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Radish posted:The members of Team Rocket are actually decent and thrust into their roles by plot circumstances and the requirement of a kids show to have antagonists. Well yes, but it was more the "stupid plot of the week" and habit of BLASTING OFF AGAIN which the GOP manage to do on their stupid outrage of the week.
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Jun 9, 2016 15:22
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Jack Gladney posted:It would be nice if people remembered which republicans supported Trump and then held that against them, but that won't happen. Trump's blatant racism, egotistical hatred of diplomacy, and current investigation for his scam university is already excused as being quaintly "unconventional." If anything, he's doing the GOP a massive favor by not only lowering political discourse and normalizing bigotry more tha ever, but when he fails, the republicans will be able to use him as a scapegoat for all the things they pushed for decades that he said aloud.
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Jun 9, 2016 15:33
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ToxicSlurpee posted:It isn't just that; conservatives believe that they are America and that everybody that disagrees with them is attacking them and by extension America. They might not say it out loud but they believe that "America" is white guys that are at least middle class; everybody else is infiltrating America's borders to take all of their stuff. It's why "socialism = bad" is such a strong argument to that sector of the populace; "you have a good life that you earned and people want to have that life without earning it" sounds scary. 
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robotsinmyhead posted:The best part is that there is no why. Why would Hillary and Obama do this? Oh, because they're evil - evil for evil's sake. I've literally had people argue on Twitter that foreign lives have no value compared to American lives. Like, I asked why he had no problem with all the US Embassy attacks (with foreign casualties) or 100k Iraqi civilians being killed in a pointless war under Bush, but was completely up-in-arms and unreasonable about 4 Americans at Benghazi, whose deaths were not the direct responsibility or Clinton. It is a bizarre dementia.
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Radish posted:The only explanation that makes the tiniest bit of sense is that a terrorist attack that close to the election would have been bad for Obama so he purposely tried to make it out to be something else. However the GOP decided to ghoulishly make it political before the bodies were cold which blew up in his face and when that didn't make Obama look bad they had to save face by obfuscating Romney's speech by muddying the water. Instead of just letting it go after the election though they decided to keep going I guess since they were in too deep to let go without something and thought they might find anything if they dug enough. Now it's a monster they don't know how to stop, much like the Tea Party in general. They decided to go on a dirt digging expedition to hurt Obama and then took a shot at torpedoing Hillary. Nothing in particular came of it, so they're finally reaching the point when they have to wrap it up and release a report detailing findings. I expect the final report in September-October.
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If there's one the RWM machine is good at, it's repetition. Like a lovely song getting stuck in your head, when you repeat the lie enough, it becomes rote - almost an inevitability. I notice it a LOT now since I read this thread - you see the same phrases over and over from RWM people, specific terms and phrases like "shred the constitution" "Hillary is a liar" "____ hates America" offered up with little or no backing evidence. I'm sure there's a RWM Bingo card out there for following this that you could fill out in about 15 seconds by reading a single page of EPORW posts on Facebook.
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robotsinmyhead posted:If there's one the RWM machine is good at, it's repetition. Like a lovely song getting stuck in your head, when you repeat the lie enough, it becomes rote - almost an inevitability. Let's also not forget argumentum ad Hitler/Stalin/Nazism/Communism/Socialism. All at the same time.
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robotsinmyhead posted:If there's one the RWM machine is good at, it's repetition. Like a lovely song getting stuck in your head, when you repeat the lie enough, it becomes rote - almost an inevitability. It's like an entire media strategy based on memes. It's the best way to make an idea with no basis in reality get accepted as "truth" since it's always around and requires no effort to understand.
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Rick_Hunter posted:Let's also not forget argumentum ad Hitler/Stalin/Nazism/Communism/Socialism. All at the same time. Well you see the Nazi party was the national SOCIALIST party so obviously by extension everybody that wants the government to help the poor is a socialist which makes them literally Hitler. QED, libtard.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Well you see the Nazi party was the national SOCIALIST party so obviously by extension everybody that wants the government to help the poor is a socialist which makes them literally Hitler. Right, Trump's not racist he's just bringing up race as an issue of impartiality in the judiciary. 
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The repetition thing is a key piece of campaigning. The Tories here in Britain have gotten it down to an art form and it would be funny if it wasn't so annoying that when members of parliament in the government ask questions they put in every single campaign phrase into their sentences regardless of how stilted or grammatically incorrect it makes the sentence.
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Rick_Hunter posted:Right, Trump's not racist he's just bringing up race as an issue of impartiality in the judiciary. It's about ethics in judicial recusals.
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uh... Scarborough Rips Trump's "Un-American" Muslim Ban: "Is This What Germany Looked Like In 1933?" quote:While talking about Donald Trump's proposed Muslim ban announced several months ago, Joe Scarborough said he is now "deeply disturbed" and calls it un-American. Wasn't Morning Joe up Trump's rear end since pretty much forever? Even after the proposed ban I think. I basically assumed he was a Trump supporter.
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Kilroy posted:uh... it's a work
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Kilroy posted:uh... I remember them kissing his rear end too. Guess they are the spurned toadies now.
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A bomb went off inside a Target Women's bathroomquote:A small bomb exploded in the women’s bathroom at a Target store in Evanston on Wednesday, and officials are investigating whether it’s connected to the company’s policy allowing transgender people to use the bathroom of their choice. Commander Joe Dugan says no one was inside the bathroom when the small explosion happened a little after 4 o’clock. It caused minor damage and no one was injured. Early indications are that a plastic bottle was used but no projectiles like nails or tacks were inside it. Investigators are gathering evidence including examining store security camera video. http://wgntv.com/2016/06/08/small-explosion-reported-in-bathroom-of-evanston-target/
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twistedmentat posted:He said Hispanic, not spic, so therefor, not racist. LOL, I guess no one cared about the picture of a woman wiping egg off of her face.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:A bomb went off inside a Target Women's bathroom TransTerroristLiberals are bombing women's bathrooms. We told you this would happen! 
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Tesseraction posted:The repetition thing is a key piece of campaigning. The Tories here in Britain have gotten it down to an art form and it would be funny if it wasn't so annoying that when members of parliament in the government ask questions they put in every single campaign phrase into their sentences regardless of how stilted or grammatically incorrect it makes the sentence. EXCUSE me but I think you'll find that repetition of baseless facts is a crucial part of our Long Term Economic Plan! *boorish yelling from the backbenches*
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Says Rape Culture isn't real by demonstrating Rape Culture https://twitter.com/mattwalshblog/status/740929284378918912 https://twitter.com/mattwalshblog/status/740929884864819200 https://twitter.com/mattwalshblog/status/740932264360595456
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:A bomb went off inside a Target Women's bathroom It sounds like a dry ice / bleach / drano bomb from the description which makes sense since the ignorant pieces of poo poo who are upset about Target's bathrooms are also cowards.
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Does anyone straight up call that worthless blogger out when he says this inane crap?
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Says Rape Culture isn't real by demonstrating Rape Culture Drink alcohol around men? You're asking for it! -Witty and Incisive commentary
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I feel as though people are approaching this from the wrong angle. Instead of lambasting rape culture wherever it rears its ugly head, take it to it's logical conclusion: MATT WALSH CALLS ALL MEN RAPISTS! URGES WOMEN TO NEVER DRINK IN THEIR COMPANY!
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Luckily it's store policy to scan IDs for Drano so if the person who did it is the kind of idiot to buy the Drano at the store he bombed(not particularly unlikely) there should be easy evidence. Between this and the nutjob in Bourbonnais I wonder if my store is going to end up with armed guards or a police posting eventually. Why are all these assholes doing this in Illinois? We're generally a pretty sane state, compared to the rest of the country.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Luckily it's store policy to scan IDs for Drano so if the person who did it is the kind of idiot to buy the Drano at the store he bombed(not particularly unlikely) there should be easy evidence. Between this and the nutjob in Bourbonnais I wonder if my store is going to end up with armed guards or a police posting eventually. Why are all these assholes doing this in Illinois? We're generally a pretty sane state, compared to the rest of the country. Chicago and Illinois are the birthplace of rampant crime and Oblammo. And by birthplace they mean he was smuggled across the border from Canada.
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