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Amergin posted:Not to mention from week 13 on, James White seemed to be a pretty serviceable pass-catching back for them. White was targeted 16 times in the AFC championship and only caught five of them. Lewis is not only a far better runner, but is probably the better passing threat too.
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Forever_Peace posted:Other folks to look at in ppr that seem low: Danny Woodhead (5th/6th), Breshad Perriman (11th/12th), Matt Ryan (11th-13th), Kendall Wright (13th). You can't draft a Brady that will miss a quarter of the season in the sixth round, come on now. Also, without looking at ADP so I could be totally wrong, I'd be super surprised if you could get Moncrief that late.
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Anyone who is down on Lewis, ask yourself, when was the last time Billy and the Pats signed a RB to a 3+ year contract extension?
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RVProfootballer posted:Sorry for mobile links, but I'm just saying bort should make a leap this year so the production could be sustainable
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Forever_Peace posted:Other folks to look at in ppr that seem low: Danny Woodhead (5th/6th), Breshad Perriman (11th/12th), Matt Ryan (11th-13th), Kendall Wright (13th). Nuk is a 1st-2nd rounder, Alshon and Rawls are 2nd-3rd. I seriously doubt any of those 3 are available in the 4th, unless the other owners area bunch of potatoes.
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RVProfootballer posted:You can't draft a Brady that will miss a quarter of the season in the sixth round, come on now. Also, without looking at ADP so I could be totally wrong, I'd be super surprised if you could get Moncrief that late. Yeah you're right, poking around, it looks like Brady's chances of getting the suspension deferred is lower than I thought. FFC has Moncrief at 7.09 with a SD of 10 spots in 12-team ppr. Mid-8th would be pretty lucky (like less than a quarter of the time) but is possible. quote:Nuk is a 1st-2nd rounder, Alshon and Rawls are 2nd-3rd. I seriously doubt any of those 3 are available in the 4th, unless the other owners area bunch of potatoes. Sorry, I was proposing drafting from the 4-6 spot in a 12-team snake draft. Nuk would be the 1st, Alshon 2nd, Rawls 3rd.
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Forever_Peace posted:Sorry, I was proposing drafting from the 4-6 spot in a 12-team snake draft. Nuk would be the 1st, Alshon 2nd, Rawls 3rd. Well now I feel silly.
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Forever_Peace posted:Yeah you're right, poking around, it looks like Brady's chances of getting the suspension deferred is lower than I thought. The Moncrief hype is off the charts this year, and his ADP is likely only going to rise between now and the beginning of the season, barring a setback on his turf toe. He's currently the 46th player off of the board in MFL redraft leagues; and 45 in MFL10s.
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Cervixalot posted:The Moncrief hype is off the charts this year, and his ADP is likely only going to rise between now and the beginning of the season, barring a setback on his turf toe. Woah.  You're not wrong.
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Is the moncrief hyped just based around the idea that the colts will be healthier this season? Some o line improvements hoping to keep luck on his feet?
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Forever_Peace posted:White was targeted 16 times in the AFC championship and only caught five of them. Sure, I'm not saying White is better or as good as Lewis. Lewis is by far the most talented RB in their set. I guess what I'm saying is if Lewis isn't the same post-injury, or if the team wants to go more by a committee to keep him healthy, they have serviceable options in both Blount and White to reduce Lewis' early down runs and 3rd down pass catching. It's not like they're the Texans for example, where you have Miller and... Blue and Grimes?
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MacheteZombie posted:Is the moncrief hyped just based around the idea that the colts will be healthier this season? Some o line improvements hoping to keep luck on his feet? Here's one explanation: https://twitter.com/4for4_John/status/740239045335252992 Quarterroys fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Jun 7, 2016 |
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Cervixalot posted:Here's one explanation: Am i missing something, because all 3 of those numbers are off from his stats on ESPN/NFL.com 73-802-11 from tweet 64-733-6 from ESPN/NFL.com
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I think that was him with Luck prorated over the season. Edit: yeah it is. Bad tweet.
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MacheteZombie posted:Is the moncrief hyped just based around the idea that the colts will be healthier this season? Some o line improvements hoping to keep luck on his feet? That, plus also Andre Johnson and Fleener are gone so there's a lot of targets up for grabs, plus Moncrief looked good in the few games with Luck last year. He's a totally legit breakout candidate as far as I can tell, just a matter of being sure to draft him closer to his expectation than his ceiling.
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Metapod posted:I'm just saying bort should make a leap this year so the production could be sustainable There's a funny way in which Bort or the team overall improving will work to drop their fantasy scoring. There was a Reddit post about something like 20% of Bortles' yardage and 25% of his touchdowns, for the whole season, were in the (1) last 5 minutes of games, (2) in which the Jags were down 9+ points. Better Bort or better defense or better offense means less garbage time. Then there's the second point of the Jags running basically all their red zone looks as passes, which should change at least a bit with the addition of Ivory. It's just, even if you like the Jags and Bortles and think they're going to get better in real life, which I agree with, it will be tough for the passing component of the offense to be so prolific in fantasy. It required the Jags being down a lot, having a higher than average amount of long completions, and almost exclusively passing in the red zone.
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RVProfootballer posted:It required the Jags being down a lot, having a higher than average amount of long completions, and almost exclusively passing in the red zone. Yep sounds like the Jags
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Spoeank posted:draft_helium.png LOL Rookies
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Leperflesh posted:The three year clock is super dumb and super exploitable since as you said, it resets with a trade, and the draft round is preserved. Keep your three best guys and then trade them for other top talent with late round pick numbers just before your league's trade deadline.The best players will never become draftable and as time goes bye, many of them will be permanently tied to late round picks. Chen Kenichi posted:Assuming by winning you will draft last in the first round (no confidence in your cornholing) I would go with your original thought of Julio, Cam, and Bell. You are getting three 1st round talents (roughly picks 1, 6, 8 IMO for 2QB) with your first draft position being 10. You do have a resetting keeper clock and Bell is in your last year of keeping - what are your trade window rules? Once the season is done you lose him immediately? Trading during the season? I would be thinking about a swap of some sort so you can keep that first round talent if you have another owner in a similar position with similar value with the intention to keep who you swap for. Also can you do trades for draft picks? Robinson and Palmer are keeper-quality in their draft rounds that you cannot keep. Maybe trades for better picks with the two of them? This is quite complicated for a true analysis on what is best because there are so many variables involved. Belatedly wanted to thank you both for the responses. The three year clock is dumb, but I've made the argument in the past and it is what it is. Adrian Peterson has always been a 6th round pick and has constantly changed hands. Really appreciate the thoughts. Will be working trades to try to get something out of some of my keeper candidates whom I likely won't be hanging onto.
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Dandy Kaiser posted:In RotoViz's most recent email, they said they were all in on Dion Lewis RotoViz needs to shhhhhh. My guy needs to stay in the mid 4th until early August.
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Benne posted:Pump the brakes on your ASJ hype train Just came here to post about this. Its still early but certainly not a good sign in the beginning of camp.
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RVProfootballer posted:For any IDP people, Hau'oli Kikaha, 2nd round LB pick of the Saints last year that looked like he'd transition to DL this year and therefore probably be a nice pick up, tore his ACL. drat, he's had an ACL tear like 3 times in the last 5 years. Insane
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Spoeank posted:Yeeeeeeesh ASJ. gonna catch so many TDs and do nothing else of note and then get drafted on reputation for the next half decade See: Rudolph, Kyle
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Dandy Kaiser posted:gonna catch so many TDs and do nothing else of note and then get drafted on reputation for the next half decade In Kyle's defense it's not like he's had a passing offense to work with at any point in his career
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In Kyle's defense, football is really hard and not everyone can be good at it
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The sooner people accept that Kyle Rudolph is bad at football the much happier they'll be with their lives
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RVProfootballer posted:For any IDP people, Hau'oli Kikaha, 2nd round LB pick of the Saints last year that looked like he'd transition to DL this year and therefore probably be a nice pick up, tore his ACL. Last year taught me not to trust hyphenated IDP. I'm looking at you, Uani' 'Unga.
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Kerwynn Williams and Mike Gillislee keep popping up in various analyses I'm doing for ground control as possible "good runners". Both look to be pretty buried in depth charts, but are going to be free agents soon. What can folks tell me about them? Anybody watch them in college? Also, I'm starting to not trust Matt Jones. Which is weird, because I liked his tape last year. Might be possible that his tape is better than his production. He goes down kicking and screaming, but still goes down nonetheless. Forever_Peace fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Jun 10, 2016 |
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Forever_Peace posted:Kerwynn Williams and Mike Gillislee keep popping up in various analyses I'm doing for ground control as possible "good runners". Both look to be pretty buried in depth charts, but are going to be free agents soon. What can folks tell me about them? Anybody watch them in college? Don't know much about Gillislee, but he didn't play at all in 2014 with the Dolphins and last year he did well in the few games where he got a few carries with the Bills. Though when he got a full workload in week 17, he only managed 28 yards on 24 carries against the Jets with a lost fumble to add. So not too sure how viable he would even be as anything other than a rotational/backup.
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Forever_Peace posted:He's goes down kicking and screaming, but still goes down nonetheless. same
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Forever_Peace posted:Mike Gillislee This fucker right here cost me a championship as my opponent picked up the night before and slotted him week 16. gently caress THAT GUY
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Kerwynn Williams got a chance when the Cardinals had a billion RB injuries a couple years ago and did nothing of note. There's a reason Arizona drafted David Johnson and signed a 50-year-old Chris Johnson to play ahead of him.
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Benne posted:Kerwynn Williams got a chance when the Cardinals had a billion RB injuries a couple years ago and did nothing of note. There's a reason Arizona drafted David Johnson and signed a 50-year-old Chris Johnson to play ahead of him. As far as I can see, he only has three games with more than ten carries, all in 2014: 19 for 100 (long of 16), 15 for 75 (long 19), and 17 for 67 (long 11). That's certainly not terrible! I like DJ better, of course, but a lot of my metrics seen to like the guy, so I figured I'd ask what folks know about him.
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Benne posted:Kerwynn Williams got a chance when the Cardinals had a billion RB injuries a couple years ago and did nothing of note. There's a reason Arizona drafted David Johnson and signed a 50-year-old Chris Johnson to play ahead of him. Well yeah why would play anyone ahead of cj2k?
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