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boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

the only thing worse than a sniper player is a spy player

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Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

NmareBfly posted:

I think it's $500? The weird thing is that a medium is 501 and a large is 502, which doesn't make much economic sense even with hyper-inflation.

larger sizes cost less per volume than smaller ones, and blizzard has never really been known or their subtly when it comes to jokes

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames
As we all know hitboxes are completely broken..
Here is a video showing them for people out of the loop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UU8jqxAiHQ

Since Blizzard are just dodging this insane issue it seems unlikely that they'll try to fix this. Will that be enough for us to get a refund?

flashman
Dec 16, 2003

Lady Naga posted:

Alright, I updated the sheet with this new info.

Great work, want to see my porn?

LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh

Verranicus posted:

As we all know hitboxes are completely broken..
Here is a video showing them for people out of the loop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UU8jqxAiHQ

Since Blizzard are just dodging this insane issue it seems unlikely that they'll try to fix this. Will that be enough for us to get a refund?
What? No, of course not.

Wangsbig
May 27, 2007

enable big head mode to match hitbox size

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

flashman posted:

Great work, want to see my porn?

:chloe:

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

Lady Naga posted:

Alright, I updated the sheet with this new info.

do u have an rss feed I can follow to stay abreast of the latest spreadsheet update happenings

flashman posted:

Great work, want to see my porn?

*wets lips, nods*

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
The spy in TF2 was awesome, most unique fps class I've ever played. I'm surprised some people here are hostile towards him, what with the amount of bullshit there is in this game.

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction

Verranicus posted:

Since Blizzard are just dodging this insane issue it seems unlikely that they'll try to fix this. Will that be enough for us to get a refund?

You have absolutely no chance of getting a refund.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Soothing Vapors posted:

do u have an rss feed I can follow to stay abreast of the latest spreadsheet update happenings

*crotch chops*

BadLlama
Jan 13, 2006

Verranicus posted:

As we all know hitboxes are completely broken..
Here is a video showing them for people out of the loop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UU8jqxAiHQ

Blizzard pandering to filthy casuals

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Slowpoke! posted:

Which D.Va skin do you guys think is best? I'll probably buy one of the 1000 coin ones since I have nothing for her, but good skins for all the other characters I like.

bva

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

Slowpoke! posted:

Which D.Va skin do you guys think is best? I'll probably buy one of the 1000 coin ones since I have nothing for her, but good skins for all the other characters I like.

scavenger, carbon fiber, b.va

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


BadLlama posted:

Blizzard pandering to filthy casuals

Consoles ruin everything again :argh:

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Verranicus posted:

As we all know hitboxes are completely broken..
Here is a video showing them for people out of the loop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UU8jqxAiHQ

Since Blizzard are just dodging this insane issue it seems unlikely that they'll try to fix this. Will that be enough for us to get a refund?

lmbo no wonder why i keep getting hit even though im behind the corner with hanzo

guess its fair enough why people rage over widow enough as it is

Ragequit
Jun 1, 2006


Lipstick Apathy

This son of a bitch is giving me a bad rap.

Supercar Gautier
Jun 10, 2006

Verranicus posted:

Mei is also the Tumblr favorite since according to them she represents "health at any size" women.

*in a game where almost all of the women have victoria's secret model bodies, one of them is chubby* what is this some kind of social justice bullshit

Kerrzhe
Nov 5, 2008

Slowpoke! posted:

Which D.Va skin do you guys think is best? I'll probably buy one of the 1000 coin ones since I have nothing for her, but good skins for all the other characters I like.

i like white rabbit, though the junker ones aren't too bad.

Too Shy Guy
Jun 14, 2003


I have destroyed more of your kind than I can count.



Ragequit posted:

This son of a bitch is giving me a bad rap.

I was waiting for you to post again in the Steam thread so I could own you with a cross-post, but it's a slow day over there.

Sanctum
Feb 14, 2005

Property was their religion
A church for one

Broken Cog posted:

The spy in TF2 was awesome, most unique fps class I've ever played. I'm surprised some people here are hostile towards him, what with the amount of bullshit there is in this game.
Really the reactions are purely "gently caress having 5 useless spies/snipers" on my team, has little to do with the mechanics of spy. With TF2 pubs you generally wind up with nearly useless snipers and spies filling up to one half of both teams. Because it's not 6v6 there's room for there to be useless without dramatically affecting the game, but there's a loving lot of them and it's ridiculous. When the stars align and you get some pub team with 10 combat classes it's gonna be a very short round and then teams are gonna get scrambled to redistribute the useless pub spies and snipers evenly.

The whole "im spy main" thing carries over though. I've already run into asshats that 'main' genjii and feel entitled to play him over everyone else.

Turtle Sandbox
Dec 31, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Wangsbig posted:

enable big head mode to match hitbox size

I legit want a mod that lets me aim at the enemies real heads, if you are going to give people big goofy hitboxes give us a big goofy head option.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Sanctum posted:

Really the reactions are purely "gently caress having 5 useless spies/snipers" on my team, has little to do with the mechanics of spy. With TF2 pubs you generally wind up with nearly useless snipers and spies filling up to one half of both teams. Because it's not 6v6 there's room for there to be useless without dramatically affecting the game, but there's a loving lot of them and it's ridiculous. When the stars align and you get some pub team with 10 combat classes it's gonna be a very short round and then teams are gonna get scrambled to redistribute the useless pub spies and snipers evenly.

The whole "im spy main" thing carries over though. I've already run into asshats that 'main' genjii and feel entitled to play him over everyone else.

my stack ran into a career genji that has had the game for 45 hours and played genji for 33

he was extremely selfish to his team but was able to capitalize on this :/

flashman
Dec 16, 2003

Genji is a fun dude I can see why they would like to be him.

Ragequit
Jun 1, 2006


Lipstick Apathy

Zombie Samurai posted:

I was waiting for you to post again in the Steam thread so I could own you with a cross-post, but it's a slow day over there.

I am sure a lot of Ragequit IDs out there live up to their name - you may get another chance.

Turtle Sandbox
Dec 31, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Lastgirl posted:

my stack ran into a career genji that has had the game for 45 hours and played genji for 33

he was extremely selfish to his team but was able to capitalize on this :/

I always play widow because I can't rely on my team to actually click on heads, also widow is beastmode right now.

Edit: Big hitboxes for heads helps explain why peaking feels hosed in this game.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
he is fun but their genji was just being very spazzy and speed tanking, everyone else on his team died a lot because he wasn't exactly helping them and at one point he almost costed them the payload but overtime almost always favors the attackers cos he started dancing on the payload to buy time, and that was the only time he actually focused on the objective~

what im saying is for a team game, he managed to win with gross selfishness and arrogance, and he was very arrogant because he kept trying to challenge like 4v1 every time and got owned.

LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh

Supercar Gautier posted:

*in a game where almost all of the women have victoria's secret model bodies, one of them is chubby* what is this some kind of social justice bullshit
she's not really chubby though

Broken Cog posted:

The spy in TF2 was awesome, most unique fps class I've ever played. I'm surprised some people here are hostile towards him, what with the amount of bullshit there is in this game.
You've got it backwards, it's not that the spy is too good or anything like that, it's that the spy is a bad class because his entire deal revolves around punishing bad/unaware players, and as soon as the enemy team starts getting even a little bit of cohesion, or especially any communication(or if the enemy players just have a basic amount of game sense and bother to check), he drops off a cliff in usefulness and becomes the worst class in the game.

Turtle Sandbox
Dec 31, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Lastgirl posted:

he is fun but their genji was just being very spazzy and speed tanking, everyone else on his team died a lot because he wasn't exactly helping them and at one point he almost costed them the payload but overtime almost always favors the attackers cos he started dancing on the payload to buy time, and that was the only time he actually focused on the objective~

what im saying is for a team game, he managed to win with gross selfishness and arrogance, and he was very arrogant because he kept trying to challenge like 4v1 every time and got owned.

Some teams have a Jordan, then you lose.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

IronicDongz posted:

You've got it backwards, it's not that the spy is too good or anything like that, it's that the spy is a bad class because his entire deal revolves around punishing bad/unaware players, and as soon as the enemy team starts getting even a little bit of cohesion, or especially any communication(or if the enemy players just have a basic amount of game sense and bother to check), he drops off a cliff in usefulness and becomes the worst class in the game.

Seems like we already have the Spy class then

Grammaton
Feb 3, 2004
Cleric
Some guy was giving me poo poo for being Tor on KotH then I got PotG haha suck that loser.

Samej
Apr 25, 2011

A Ponderously Prescient Pachyderm

Sanctum posted:

Really the reactions are purely "gently caress having 5 useless spies/snipers" on my team, has little to do with the mechanics of spy. With TF2 pubs you generally wind up with nearly useless snipers and spies filling up to one half of both teams. Because it's not 6v6 there's room for there to be useless without dramatically affecting the game, but there's a loving lot of them and it's ridiculous. When the stars align and you get some pub team with 10 combat classes it's gonna be a very short round and then teams are gonna get scrambled to redistribute the useless pub spies and snipers evenly.

The whole "im spy main" thing carries over though. I've already run into asshats that 'main' genjii and feel entitled to play him over everyone else.

I've found most the opposite in many Overwatch pubs - people who "main" Widow or Genji tend to actually be pretty alright about it. It might be more that because it is a pub is because of this. Perhaps Competitive with be a more exacting measure of skill?

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
Competitive is going to be exactly like quick play except with a lot more screaming and you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you believe otherwise.

a cat on an apple
Apr 28, 2013
Competitive has the opportunity for allowing some meta into widespread knowledge, like how 2 supports/2 tanks is godlike composition.

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

Grammaton posted:

Some guy was giving me poo poo for being Tor on KotH then I got PotG haha suck that loser.

Torbjorn POTGs basically mean "You played Torbjorn." I'm not saying you did or didn't do well. Just that the game likes kill participation and having a giant separate aimbot really messes those priorities up.

Rocketlex
Oct 21, 2008

The Manliest Knight
in Caketown

a cat on an apple posted:

This is also pretty much total conjecture. The only thing that's really known for sure is there was a picture of a sniper in the Support section which we clearly do not have a Support Sniper.

I'm hoping for a Heal Sniper who shoots health into allies with a sniper rifle.

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

Supercar Gautier posted:

*in a game where almost all of the women have victoria's secret model bodies, one of them is chubby* what is this some kind of social justice bullshit

Haha, oh man... oh man. *wipes away tear* So true, Supercar Gautier, so true.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Lady Naga posted:

Competitive is going to be exactly like quick play except with a lot more screaming and you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you believe otherwise.

probably

gotta be serious about a cartoon video game with robots and half dead blue skin snipers

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Brannock posted:

Haha, oh man... oh man. *wipes away tear* So true, Supercar Gautier, so true.

im surprised Zarya isn't a role model, probably because she represents :effort: just as much as the cardio bunnies :shrug:

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LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh

Lady Naga posted:

Seems like we already have the Spy class then

Bastion at least can do some damage without people loving up. Spy relies on the enemy team not having a basic level of understanding of the game they're playing to get picks, because people who are not awful are gonna recognize when someone is acting weird/in a place that doesn't make sense/a duplicate of someone else nearby, and even if they didn't if you're not currently fighting you basically have no reason not to spycheck anyone who isn't shooting(and then spy gets even worse once people start explosive jumping and moving too quickly for the spy to backstab/making spies stand out more, because they aren't doing that/sometimes randomly blowing up spies who are sneaking in nearby)

there's no OW equivalent for the kind of 'situational awareness check' that the spy is, which is good, because making a whole classes kit revolve around that is a great way to make a character which stomps newbies but is borderline worthless against anyone who knows what's up

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